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[Friday]

As I was one of the over 40 million people with no health insurance, for over 6 years, while working? 3 of those years at 31 hours (scheduled) a week at an insurance owned hospital, so I could work 50 hours a week but still be "part time" as far as those f*ckers providing zero benefits for their part time employees... Working triage in an ER that would send a man with an missing half his foot out the motherf*cking door, foot in hand, because he was a farm laborer... Therefore no insurance... So he had to go to the only hospital in the state that accepted "those people" without insurance hours away by car? (Called, he never made it there. No idea what happened to him.) With cancer survival stats having to be adjusted for the millions of people who would die of treatable cancer, because they lost their job during their cancer treatment, and then therefore lost their insurance? With my own self hundreds of thousands of medical debt following emergency surgery in that self same hospital I worked in, and 50k per day ICU charge? Where I couldn't afford the 10k to pay for an ambulance ride to the ER... At any point ? Then later millions in debt due to my son's care? (Thank f*cking god for Children's Hospitals who would see kids regardless of their parents ability to pay or not pay.)

Yeah.

Not a lot of sympathy here for $125 a month versus 40 million people with no access to healthcare.

Thinking about others.

Also something to do when voting.

 

[joeylittle]

@RussH - I've merged your thread into the current Trump v Clinton thread, since you are talking about the upcoming election as much as past political policy, and I've limited the number of new threads on that topic in this forum. If you'd prefer it moved to social, just let me know via report.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Thats a crazy story @Friday! Thanks!

 

[Anarchy]

And thank politics for the racket that is health insurance;

A government printing paper money for the government to spend, and at the same time operating price and wage controls to prevent the inevitable adjustment between the increasing amount of paper money compared to real goods and services.

How do businesses attract workers to leave the competition and come work for them instead - if the government isn't allowing them to offer higher wages as the bait?

Offering health insurance was one benefit in kind which was not subject to the wage controls. It got ordinary Americans allong with doctors and hospitals hooked on the insurance model, and it created a new and very wealthy political constituency and source of political donations.

 

[RussH]

Not a lot of sympathy here for $125 a month versus 40 million people with no access to healthcare.

When you have almost zero percent disposable income, $125.00 can be the difference between groceries and no groceries.

 

[hodge]

From The Washington Post Editorial Board today: Dead Link Removed

Amen. And, right, national security? I think Trump's bromance with Putin is far more troubling, especially since U.S. intelligence officials have determined that Russian intelligence hacked the DNC.

 

[Ladyghosthunter]

ooooh boy......talk about a hot topic.

I don't know if you all know this already but I'm majoring in Criminal Justice-Homeland Security and minoring in Political Science-Communication and Analysis.
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To answer the above post about Trump and Putin-it's my theory that the reason why there is such a "bromance" is because we have had very "cold" relations with Russia and sometime, it has to stop. We have other enemies on our plate right now that are pressing however, if you want to delve into the "bromance" a little further, just make sure you look at the facts of why Obama and Putin don't get along vs. Trump and Putin being cordial.

Heather

 

[hodge]

Respectfully, Heather, it is apparent that Trump admires Putin and would want to be like him if he were president (evidently, only because he believes Putin has said nice things about him). I for one do not want a Putin puppet for president. We are a democracy, a hard-won democracy. Putin leads an effective dictatorship in Russia. Putin is not our friend. Yeah, we managed to reach a cease-fire agreement with him tonight in Syria -- all to the good, hopefully. That doesn't mean we have to like him, admire him, or elect someone who wants to be like him. I think that's just plain crazy, not to mention unpatriotic and unAmerican. If you don't care about being on his enemies list, perhaps you would care about some friends and family members who might end up there and end up dead if he were elected?

 

[hodge]

I am also all for international cooperation, but how do you deal with a regime that has likely had a role in having 34 journalists killed in the last 16 years for disagreeing with you?

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[RussH]

The statements I have heard Trump say regarding Putin, are statements or respect. The last statement he called him a good leader. He was showing respect for his leadership skills. It doesn't mean that Trump in fawning all over Putin.
It does mean that Trump understands we will need to work with Putin, or we will be working against him.

 

[Casey_03]

I'm really astounded by how nasty both Trump and Clinton are being. It makes me ashamed to be American and think my kid will grow up to have one of these two as a leader. Clinton last night said half of Trump's supporters belong in a "basket of deplorables" and are "irredeemable" for their racist, sexist, xenophobic, anti-Muslim views. While I agree that there are such prejudiced people among Trump's many supporters, I find it a bit shocking that she would say that about American voters. I mean, if she had targeted Trump and said he espouses these things, that's one thing, but to direct her comments directly at voters, that seems like a huge miscalculation on her part.

And of course Trump's team seized on her comment today to (rightfully) point out that this was really insulting. I had always thought of her as the classier of the two candidates, classier at least in the public eye (but who knows how she behaves when no one's looking). But she really lowered herself with that comment.

 

[hodge]

We have been dealing with Putin since the late 1980s. Sec. Kerry negotiated a cease-fire in Syria between our two countries last night. And he certainly doesn't fawn over Putin. We need a president who is not so susceptible to flattery.

My question: how does one respect a dictator? That's like respecting an abuser. Because make no mistake, dictators are abusers writ large.