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Delayed Onset - I Just Don't Get It!

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Digger, I am getting closer but I have this thing that is probably dissociative that physically stops me from getting a therapist. I won't bore you here! and it will take this way off topic. My mind blanks entirely when I get to the point of looking for T's. You are right that that is what I have to do though. Somehow.

note to self: re read that last statement at least a hundred times a day )
Ha!

Bob, yelling at myself is not something I am short of!
 
I think it must be all related to being in survival mode. Especially when things happen at a young age, and there is no way out of a situation anyway, the child has to go into survival mode, because there is no alternative.
You are probably right Arina. There must be certain things that somehow modify or control the way the trauma is experienced or expressed. It probably also varies from person to person.

<edited by cherryblossom to say that it was Mayday who said this, not Arina
I think it must be all related to being in survival mode. Especially when things happen at a young age, and there is no way out of a situation anyway, the child has to go into survival mode, because there is no alternative.
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I have this thing that is probably dissociative that physically stops me from getting a therapist
I think I probably understand that and it wouldn't bore me to hear about it more. I have had similar, a bit like the kind of blank when you go into room for something and can't remember why you are there?

Feel free to start another thread about it if you want to talk some more about it. Maybe the more you talk about that/examine that here, the closer you will be able to get
 
I tend to agree with in regards to survivors of heinous acts going right into survival mode, thereby not only striving towards surviving but the very need to survive also serving as a distraction from what all caused the traumas to begin with.

Nevertheless, there are still signs and symptoms that so often can go and has gone unnoticed and/or misunderstood. Especially if one of the symptoms includes fear of even speaking and breathing freely, while the perpetrating monster speaks for the victim disguised as a concerned parental figure as did occur in my case. Resulting in the other parent cracking the whip rather than offer the type of support they otherwise would have immediately provided to guarantee protection from any further secret assaultive violations committed by the very Monster advising them.
 
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Thanks for sharing that Digger. It helps a lot when anyone does tell me they have experienced anything similar as if gives me some hope a T will understand me and hopefully hope will convince my mind that it is OK to get a T at some point! If you are looking for a way to while away the time then there is more info here. Expressed fairly badly. https://www.myptsd.com/threads/topi...d-temporary-loss-of-information-anyone.35761/
 
unnoticed and/or misunderstood and especially if one of the symptoms includes fear of even speaking and breathing freely while the perpertrating monster speaks for the victim disguised as a concernedparental figure as did occur in my case and resulting in the other parent cracking the whip rather than offer the type of support they otherwise would have immediately provided
Really sorry to hear that Arina. Perpetrators are often horribly manipulative and wily.
 
Sometimes I think analysing things can be useful - sometimes I think maybe it just serves as another distraction from dealing with the thing in question.

Ahhhh yes, I have been saying this for many threads now.... Perhaps in not so many words....
 
When it perceives that you are either safe enough or strong enough (or both), the walls it created between you and the trauma breaks down and with it the increase in symptoms.

I've struggled with these questions so very much over the 13 years I've suffered with PTSD. I wondered if I was somehow predisposed to a PTSD response to the initial trauma rather than overcoming it after several months of reasonable grieving. I also wondered what it is about traumas in general that would bring thousands and thousands of otherwise normal people to the places that we all have gone... Why are our symptoms so very similar regardless of what the trauma was or how long we've had it. These are some of my ideas on these questions.

I was always a very strong person who managed stress very well, but believe me when I tell you, I piled it on myself for years and years and years. I would work three jobs and go to University full-time, making straight A's, living on my own and paying my own way. Eventually, after I married, had three small children and was working 80 -100 hours a week as a full-blown Software Engineer, I decided to give up on my degree for awhile. I created for myself an extremely STRESSFUL life!!! But, hey...I was handling it just fine.

On 9/14/2000 I was "hurt." I wasn't just hurt, I was drugged (over-dosed) and was "hurt." This trauma was maybe the straw that broke this camel's back. I could handle any stress the world could throw at me, but I couldn't handle this one. I was an instant mess. Maybe if I had been a little easier on myself before this event occurred, I would have handled it better?? Maybe my nerves were already dangerously frayed before this happened, and it turned out to be the final blow to my nervous system?

I also think that it is possible that we are born with little in the way of a world view. As we grow, we learn and practice and establish our views of what "can and cannot happen" in the world we see around us; the world we have always known, that we can relate to, and is actually a combination of being an image in our heads and true reality.

For example, in my world there are no monsters under the bed. If I ever saw a real monster under the bed it would likely shock me out of complacency, and I know that I would have to reevaluate all of the data that went into making my world view tell me something that was untrue. It would be a really big deal. I might never be the same again. How can I trust this old comfortable world view now that I see how flawed it is? I have to create a new world view that accounts for this trauma, then I have to practice and establish it as trustworthy again. But crap...this is going to take a ton of time!!

This may explain why we each lost our composure with each trauma and why we all seem to be experiencing PTSD so similarly?
(God... I hope this is making sense!) I need to stop. I'm upsetting myself. I hope I don't sound like a babbling idiot. I would love your feedback on these ideas.
 
When it ( your brain) perceives that you are either safe enough or strong enough (or both), the walls it created between you and the trauma breaks down and with it the increase in symptoms.


Yes, I believe this too. My H and I had moved 14 times in 16 years including going half way around the world to care for my mother-in-law. When we came back to the USA, we moved from the suburbs into New York City. I am not a city girl but needed to finish college. Last move was to here 20 years ago.

I remember one Febuary when my very safe pastor came over for tea. The baby was asleep in my arms. A lovely, peaceful and tender moment that was. We were sitting looking out at fresh sparkly snow and I felt like at any moment a molotov cocktail could be thrown into the livingroom , explode and kill all of us. The two pictures did not match. I have since learned that is called hypervigilance. It made sense when we lived in cities. It made sense when we lived on the edge of the biggest slum in NYC.

It did not make sense when I was safe. I had a roof over my head, no worries about enough food or anything else. I had had a few odd moments growing up like when my roomate's first year girl came up silently and stood behind me in our narrow hall. I turned, screamed, and went into a full fetal tuck. Moments later, I was up and sorry for having embarrassed the new girl. She was tall, like my mother. She had blonde curly hair, just like my mother. I think I could get up so fast was because I snapped into disassociation quickly.

Once in India, my H and I were driving on a dusty road straight west as the sun was setting, huge and orange as seen through the dusty atmosphere. Some safe little girl part of me pipped up with delight, "Looky,looky a full sun." Clearly, she only experienced life at night. She knew the moon had phases so assumed the sun did too. I was embarrassed but H thought I was just gooofing around.

Incidents like this with no memory of trauma were discordant with reality. I finally went to group art therapy sessions to start with. I trusted what came out of me to be clear of any therapist's agenda. 20 years ago...some success.

This one may make you laugh. We can hear bang type noises all year round. I lived here for 10 to 12 years thinking that there was a manufacturated home industry nearby and what I was hearing was a nailing gun for roofers. As therapy went along and more of the traumas came out. The sound became so far from neutral. An important family moved in a few towns away. There were two police shooting practice ranges and a detail bodyguards as well as a private shooting club. One day in a full blown panic attack, I figured the sound out, gun fire. That is a very big trigger still.


I think you are right, we can only begin to do trauma work when we are safe.
 
Sometimes, if I am alone, I actually yell at myself to...anti-trigger me, if you will. I will just say, "BOB! GET OUT OF BED!" (that is the non-explicit version). It startles me, but in a different way. Kinda snaps me back into reality. I save it for bad days, but it has come in handy.
I use self talk to achieve the same outcome. I might try yelling at myself sometime, to see if it works for me :)
 
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