OldDoorGunner
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Destroying ISIS and their hateful ideology against women all at the same time! Check out this female fighter pilot from UAE leading the bombing blitz against the terrorists! Link Removed
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What a bad ass.
And again we're involved in an 'unwinable' war. You can't fight an enemy with half ass methods. Remember in 'Nam B52's slammed the HoChiMinh trail for months and it didn't stop the NVA from coming south or moving the weapons and materials that they needed. We're just too f*cking stupid in this country to figure it out. All we're going to do is create yet another group of vets in desperate need of both mental and physical help.
You know when you do something really stupid you have to get to a point where you say, 'OK, that just doesn't work and we need to do something else altogether'. Here we just keep doing the same thing over and over and over. What is that saying, 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and somehow expecting a different outcome'. No one, at least here, learns from history.
Nuke 'em and be done with it or just stop pouring billion of dollars into something we can't make better. I'm soooo f*cking tired of this shit.
You know when you do something really stupid you have to get to a point where you say, 'OK, that just doesn't work and we need to do something else altogether'. Here we just keep doing the same thing over and over and over. What is that saying, 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and somehow expecting a different outcome'. No one, at least here, learns from history.
Nuke 'em and be done with it or just stop pouring billion of dollars into something we can't make better. I'm soooo f*cking tired of this shit.
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I think it's basically the axis as a whole might have nukes too. So whoever hits the red button. Ends the program.
f*cking worlds a bunch of cross-hairs.
f*cking worlds a bunch of cross-hairs.
I've had the pleasure of speaking to some WW2 vets at the vet center that I go to. I sometimes ask them what they think about all that's going on now. One said something to me that's always stayed with me. He said; 'you know when we were fighting, and he fought in Europe and in the Pacific, we really thought we were changing the world for good and for the better. It seems that men will always want to fight about something and it's the young people that get caught in the meat grinder that war is'. Prophetic words from a vet that saw more shit and had more medals and commendations than you can imagine.
He passed away a few months ago and I was glad to see him off. I don't know what the 'real' answer to all this shit is but what's going on just doesn't seem to be it. I have, as ya'll might imagine a different and distanced view from the type of fighting that's going on today. Just a tired old Marine that wants to hang up my gun belt and take off my boots and be done with young people dying for a cause I just don't seem to understand anymore. Not anti-war, just anti-stupidity. And tired, as well. Just really tired.
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He passed away a few months ago and I was glad to see him off. I don't know what the 'real' answer to all this shit is but what's going on just doesn't seem to be it. I have, as ya'll might imagine a different and distanced view from the type of fighting that's going on today. Just a tired old Marine that wants to hang up my gun belt and take off my boots and be done with young people dying for a cause I just don't seem to understand anymore. Not anti-war, just anti-stupidity. And tired, as well. Just really tired.
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Wow, thanks for sharing that Jar!
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OldDoorGunner
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Well said Jar.
I am with you on the "I'm soooo f*cking tired of this shit." "And tired, as well. Just really tired."
That Brother sums it up for me as well............
J R
I am with you on the "I'm soooo f*cking tired of this shit." "And tired, as well. Just really tired."
That Brother sums it up for me as well............
J R
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I believe we will have to learn to fight differently, again.
It was pounded in over and over and over -in DoD & Civvie k-12 schooling- that the only reason we defeated the British in the 1770s is that we broke the European rules & fought like the Indians did. Brits adapted soon enough, its become the standard we still use today, but they didn't adapt in time. Seems like (for those of us in the states) we don't learn from our own history.
Our ROE don't work. That simple. From Vietnam onward for the US, not sure about other nations but I know there have been heaps of conflicts other have been engaged in we haven't even touched... Each and every single time we face this kind of fighting, things go badly. Conventional warfare cannot meet it.
Superior numbers is not an asset. Superior weapons are not an asset. At least, not the way that either is used. Concentrated forces just provide a target, not strength. Like the columns of old.
I don't have a solution. I'm not that clever.
Certain ideas, though, I'm sure occur to most of us. And the public would hate it. Seems like as long as you don't know who you're killing, it's fine. Unless they're photogenic. But just going off of how we crucify people working off good intel, much less bad... I don't know. Like I said. Not that clever.
It was pounded in over and over and over -in DoD & Civvie k-12 schooling- that the only reason we defeated the British in the 1770s is that we broke the European rules & fought like the Indians did. Brits adapted soon enough, its become the standard we still use today, but they didn't adapt in time. Seems like (for those of us in the states) we don't learn from our own history.
Our ROE don't work. That simple. From Vietnam onward for the US, not sure about other nations but I know there have been heaps of conflicts other have been engaged in we haven't even touched... Each and every single time we face this kind of fighting, things go badly. Conventional warfare cannot meet it.
Superior numbers is not an asset. Superior weapons are not an asset. At least, not the way that either is used. Concentrated forces just provide a target, not strength. Like the columns of old.
I don't have a solution. I'm not that clever.
Certain ideas, though, I'm sure occur to most of us. And the public would hate it. Seems like as long as you don't know who you're killing, it's fine. Unless they're photogenic. But just going off of how we crucify people working off good intel, much less bad... I don't know. Like I said. Not that clever.
"And again we're involved in an 'unwinable' war. You can't fight an enemy with half ass methods."
"Not anti-war, just anti-stupidity. And tired, as well. Just really tired."
You said a mouth full brother.
Jar, they ain't learned shit from our fiasco. That ol' *lets train the friendlies* really worked real well for us.
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"Not anti-war, just anti-stupidity. And tired, as well. Just really tired."
You said a mouth full brother.
Jar, they ain't learned shit from our fiasco. That ol' *lets train the friendlies* really worked real well for us.
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Stubborn leadership.
Here's a question to pose...for my fellow Iraq/afghan vets...
Has anyone undergone extreme desires to reenlist and go back to handle shit? I have...daily. Unfinished business that is combat in my body I think...always looking for the high...anyone else feel this...? The ISIS group has me rearing at the bit to go back
Has anyone undergone extreme desires to reenlist and go back to handle shit? I have...daily. Unfinished business that is combat in my body I think...always looking for the high...anyone else feel this...? The ISIS group has me rearing at the bit to go back
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Yea they sure like to still keep us on edge don't they?
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