Other My dad is pissing me off (Leftist content, conservatives and libertarians DO NOT INTERACT)

[Charbella]

The only thing I hear is more reasons to drop him from your life. He can’t accept who you are. You shouldn’t actually need anything else. You have a hateful man spewing hate and you communicate with him? You think you might change his mind? I’m going to say that’s insane.

 

[Samcolseafoam]

The only thing I hear is more reasons to drop him from your life. He can’t accept who you are. You shouldn’t actually need anything else. You have a hateful man spewing hate and you communicate with him? You think you might change his mind? I’m going to say that’s insane.

it is insane and you are right. I reached out to my mom. She is crazy but she is also sane in some areas.

 

[anthony]

The fact that any of your are defining yourselves by political alliance, says much bigger things to me. The American people need to stop dividing themselves, period, according to some political nonsense. It's ok to just believe what you want, not jump on an ideological train. Ideological trains are called, a cult.

Some of the things I'm reading here, are doing the exact thing that is being complained about, just spewing it from another side. Stop dividing yourselves from this nonsense.

 

[LuckiLee]

I miss the good ol' days when we didn't discuss politics, religion or abortion because we ALL have different views, opinions and backgrounds. It's damn near impossible to change anyone's beliefs, especially about those 3 topics.

That's the beauty of America. We can have different beliefs and opinions, some countries can't.

The problem is social media gave mean spirited and uneducated people a platform to spread their hate like a cancer.

It sounds like you and your dad will never see eye to eye on these issues and I feel for you.

If only people would keep their opinions to themselves the world would be a better place.

I hope you can find a resolution. Good luck.

 

[Weemie]

Political extremism on either side is maladaptive. I consider myself to be fairly far-left (I think money is stupid and evil and should be abolished entirely, lol), but the group of people making it actively unsafe in my country for me to walk down the street?

Who shout at me - a stranger whose political opinions they cannot know beyond my obvious religious identity - and actively call for my death? Are leftist extremists. Right-wing extremists are dangerous, too, and infuriating in a whole different way. They too would be pleased if I died, since I am transgender and disabled.

But the problem is the extremism. There are plenty of moderates on either side who simply want to live freely. I would rather talk to a libertarian who believes live-and-let-live than someone screaming at me that I am a genocidal baby killer, but calls themselves "progressive."

Your dad may or may not be a lost cause, but it sounds like you'd do well to cut down the doomscrolling, because it's feeding into an unhealthy pattern of over-exposure, heightened emotions, and is ultimately creating an environment of extremism within you as well. Saturation in this stuff won't fix our society's problems, but stepping back from it could potentially help your problem.

 

[Movingforward10]

Radical acceptance here might help. Accepting your Dad for who he is. And then deciding what type of relationship you want from him.

What are you gaining from trying to argue with him? Do you want him to change his mind and behave differently? If so, sounds like you want from him exactly what he wants from you. And round and round you both go.
Step out of the game. It's only hurting you.

.I'm in the UK. We just voted out one of our most right wing government and swapped it for what was meant to be the left. But ,in my opinion, is just centre right rather than the heading to the far right that we had before.
Those people in power are not your average people. They hold a lot of power. And having had to fight for my rights in my country because I was denied them, I understand the significance of how hard those rights are won and how easily they are lost.

However, I got to protect my mental health. No one going to help me do that. Although we do have a welfare state here in the UK (despite the dismantling of it by the previous government and I think a continued underfunding and dismantling of it with this 'left' government). Something you guys don't have in the US and it blows my mind. But your left governments haven't brought that in either. So.....

 

[Samcolseafoam]

The fact that any of your are defining yourselves by political alliance, says much bigger things to me. The American people need to stop dividing themselves, period, according to some political nonsense. It's ok to just believe what you want, not jump on an ideological train. Ideological trains are called, a cult.

Some of the things I'm reading here, are doing the exact thing that is being complained about, just spewing it from another side. Stop dividing yourselves from this nonsense.

grow up Republican

Radical acceptance here might help. Accepting your Dad for who he is. And then deciding what type of relationship you want from him.

What are you gaining from trying to argue with him? Do you want him to change his mind and behave differently? If so, sounds like you want from him exactly what he wants from you. And round and round you both go.
Step out of the game. It's only hurting you.

.I'm in the UK. We just voted out one of our most right wing government and swapped it for what was meant to be the left. But ,in my opinion, is just centre right rather than the heading to the far right that we had before.
Those people in power are not your average people. They hold a lot of power. And having had to fight for my rights in my country because I was denied them, I understand the significance of how hard those rights are won and how easily they are lost.

However, I got to protect my mental health. No one going to help me do that. Although we do have a welfare state here in the UK (despite the dismantling of it by the previous government and I think a continued underfunding and dismantling of it with this 'left' government). Something you guys don't have in the US and it blows my mind. But your left governments haven't brought that in either. So.....

I'll never accept my dad or any ideology that implies caring for people is murder

 

[Movingforward10]

I'll never accept my dad or any ideology that implies caring for people is murder

it's not about accepting that ideology. but accepting that this is what your dad believes.
And that you can't change his belief.
So, continuing to try to is causing you stress.

Accepting that he has this view. and moving on from it. is the way to healing.

 

[Applecore]

I cannot see any other reason than this as I have witnessed over and over the FAILURES of these ideologies and what they lead to.
There is simply no deep breath to be had. I have been silently breathing for FAR too long. I cannot be quiet about the issues, as they impact the lives of people I care about deeply. Blue no matter who for life.
I just don't understand giving any consideration to the opinions of those who cannot even view the poor as human beings. Maybe some libertarians and conservatives give a dang, but they support a system that lies and lies, to them and to others.
Trump wants to dismantle social security. To me, the only intention is to kill the disabled. Agenda 2025 is going to be put in effect if that Nazi gets elected.

Welcome to the forum. I oppose Trump, and happen to know a lot about Nazi genocide due to my father having been a child survivor of it. He raised me in the shadow of his traumatic childhood experiences in World War Two, which was one of the things that in turn traumatized me.

Moreover, one of the things that turned my life around and brought me resilience was using CPR to save the life of a stranger who turned out to be an Auschwitz survivor. The serial number tattoo was on his arm to prove it. We later became friends.

As much as I dislike Trump, he is not a Nazi. Please try to empathise with and show some respect for the victims and survivors of Nazism by not inflating the term.

I think you might find the deep study of psychology and history really engaging. So out of curiosity, how old are you, or what stage of your education are you at? Have you read or listened to Man's Search for Meaning by Auschwitz survivor Viktor Frankl?

Last question: have you yet considered the extent to which this passionate communication between you and your father might not even be about politics, and really about you and him?

 

[Sideways]

You know where your dad stands, and how it makes you feel. So, where to from here?

You seem to be pretty angry. Which makes sense. What can you do with that anger that will be helpful for you?

 

[Friday]

But the problem is the extremism.

Always.

 

[sidptitala]

I think you need to not give your dad space in your life to share his opinions. Its not fair but when he starts in on this, leave the room/house/go home - whatever action is away from him. Every time you argue for your or other people's basic humanity it costs you something.

Being aware of this, I would try to balance him out with people who are truly focused on making a better world (look for them and try to get involved with them). Actively prioritise them in your time, space, energy and deprioritise your dad and what your dad is saying.

Your anger is so valid and real. The people who will share it with you will help you survive it.