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Did A Religious Parent Cause You Harm?

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user27357

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First- my intent here is not to tear apart the beliefs of any one here, or to promote my own views on religion.

If a faith in a higher power is helpful to you I would be a very bad person to do anything to shake that support and I do not intend to do anyone harm.

Many Topics posted here are posted with a warning that the contents may be triggering for others. I would also like to warn that the discussion of religion and it's contribution to PTSD may trigger a negative response in some readers and I urge you to stop here. Right here. If a discussion of religious views will upset you when others post a view opposing your own, you should read another thread today.

Thanks, on with my post:

My father and stepmother are people with very little ability to think outside their religious box. Any critical thinking about religion is a sin in their minds and they will literally fall to their knees and pray for forgiveness if an objective thought about religion enters their minds.

Growing up in this environment was very much like growing up with robots for parents. They sat at my table and ate thanksgiving dinner with me every year, they sent out birthday cards to my kids every birthday right up to the day we parted company several years ago. But looking back, I cannot recall any real conversations with them or any real love from them in the entire history of our relationship. They were like robots, totally unavailable for emotional interactions. Everything in their lives was all about devotion to their church, and all decisions were made with a deference to the teachings of the leaders that literally filled shelves on their bookcase.

I feel like I was raised under the direct guidance of a deranged false prophetess from the 1850's that started their cult and created generations of these parent/robots.

If you can relate to this, I would like to hear your story.

If you think you are the victim of what I would call "religious narcissists" for parents, I would like to hear your story.

For those of you preparing a defense of religion in parenting, I would urge you to start a different thread, I don't want to see this become a debate. I already agree with you, I think that most religious parents are fine people that raise their families with love and care and don't create PTSD sufferers. Just like anything else, there are degrees of religious parenting and there are degrees of negative and positive experiences within those families.

Religion gave us Mother Teresa, and religion gave us Osama Bin Laden. And religion gives us people that would see the former as the evil and the latter as the positive character and vice versa. Please, lets leave all that to the philosophers or at least another thread.

Lets talk about how religious parents either caused our PTSD or set us up for later events without a support system beyond their religion, OK?
 
i was raised in a so called "Christian" family as well. went to church every Sunday and Wednesday, did devotions, prayed before meals, etc. we did everything people would expect from a Christian family. My dad is a good man but he was just as much of a victim of mommie dearest as the rest of us. one time our pastor asked "raise your hand if you are sure that you'll go to heaven". mommie dearest had the audacity to raise her hand. Now whenever I think about that I laugh! If she's a Christian then I'm the queen of Sheba!
 
Do you see a difference in "how religious parents" might "cause our PTSD" from the way other parents might? Or, parents who might have (or appear to have) religious beliefs but that wasn't a direct part of the abuse?

Sometimes there's a fine line between religion and a cult and your parents sure sound like they'd come down on the "cult" side of the divide. And, of course, while there is a relationship between "religion" and "God", they aren't the same thing at all.
 
@scout86
Most definitely the same things that brought PTSD to my life (thanks mom and dad) bring the stuff to non religious homes too. The big difference is that a beating is just a beating in some homes and in others it is an attempt to save an everlasting soul from the lake of fire.

My parents were trying to systematically destroy my will and spirit, using many of the same techniques the US army uses in boot camp training. After all resistance has been pounded out of the subject, it can be reprogrammed with the desired thought processes. In the army that means conditioned responses that will save a life in a combat situation, in my home it meant creating another religious robot that would pay 10% of it's income to the church, raise more robots someday and spend 24/7 thinking up ways to recruit new robots in the mean time.

And I totally agree that the difference between god and religion is a gaping maw, just waiting for us to fall into it.
 
My father's anti-religion was so anti-faith that he could and did destroy children's faith in themselves in the name of free-thinking. Faith remains the forbidden f-word at our family gatherings. He was a man ahead of his time on the other f-word... Our family gatherings bear effly resemblance to a gangsta rap convention. Effing righteous.

It be the fanaticism which gets me running.
 
Both of my parents kept up the appearance of faithfully practicing a religion but I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics they must have been performing to reconcile their actions and choices with the beliefs of that religion. While they looked like they were religious, I don't believe they were. People who embrace that religion don't do the things they did. Maybe keeping up the pretense made them feel better about themselves in some twisted way. It's so sick it's difficult to even think about.

It took about twenty years after moving out for me to be able to even consider any kind of spirituality for myself and that was only after an enormous amount of soul-searching (no pun intended). Allowing them to separate me from any kind of religion was giving them way too much power over my life. I decided that I would chose for myself. That is my power and right over my own life. Their sickness doesn't dictate to me which religion to chose or eschew. I spent a long time and a lot of research and finally picked the religion I now practice and I'm happy with that.
 
@scout86
The big difference is that a beating is just a beating in some homes and in others it is an attempt to save an everlasting soul from the lake of fire.

My parents were trying to systematically destroy my will and spirit
This was me too - my parents believed they had a God given right and duty to beat me to breaking point, with the purposed intention of breaking my will, and I was a fairly strong willed child. They did this because they wanted to raise children who were faithful and obedient to God. I do still profess a faith and am actively involved in a local church but I don't hold my beliefs to be the be all and end all. I also struggle constantly with self esteem and self worth, because they taught me that I was intrinsically wrong just for being alive.
 
The big G word is a trigger for me. I am spiritual but believe in universal law and rarely speak of G. My parents (adoptive) we nuts about G. Church ALL THE TIME. Yech. Rosaries all the time. Religion, when I balked against it, destroyed our family as it does many countries. I am a rebel. Rebels don't work well in religion. I feel that with my spiritually I am allowed to be a trailblazer (with the groups I hang out with anyways). More my style.

So yes, the G word and the R word are something I walk away from when someone starts trying to get me to see things their way. I see it as manipulation and I don't like it.
 
@Suzetig

thanks for sharing. It sounds like you know what I am talking about. I find myself wondering if my therapists have just thought my stories about my parents were just the echoes of a rebellious kid. Thanks for reading my post and affirming my experiences.

I get that you were also told that you were a wrong person just because you were a human that was resistant to what they saw as the only path to being a good person.

It was hard to go from being a good kid with one mother and then being the scum of the earth with a stepmother in the short time I was given and at the time in my life it occurred. A whole lot of my resistance to their religion was my resistance to their school system that wanted to hold me back a grade because of the questions I asked in the religious studies classes, that was after my previous public school teacher had been sending me into the upper grade math and science classes and having me help out with the younger kids reading classes. I knew I was a good kid, they tried for 3 years to convince me I was a bad kid and unfortunately it took root and has a hold to this day.

Except that I am talking about it now. Thanks for talking back.
 
@shimmerz

Add the N word, no not that one, the one that makes people do things for "god and country"- Nationalism.

We are not supposed to get political here, but I totally agree with you about people using the R word and the G word and the N word to get people to think and do what they want them to do. No one is born thinking it is a good Idea to fly an airplane into a building or invade Poland or any of the countless other inhuman acts committed by people under the influence of the people that seek to manipulate using one of those words.
 
@Solara

Hey, thats what we are here for, right? I hope we would all agree that any support is a good thing no matter if we see it as support that works for us or not. Hoping you have the support you need and get it from a source that is reliable for you. Pretty basic to being on a forum that seeks to help other sufferers, but I accept the thanks and say you are welcome.
 
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