Difference Between Evil And Messed Up

[oasis2003]

Evil ?? I will have to think about it hopefully I will get back to you !

 

[GG2489]

I was pondering the morality theory the other day.. What is good, bad, moral or immoral ?
Evil depends on an individual.. What one person finds evil may not be the same as someone else..
This is where morality as universal comes into play..
If we are questioning heaven (good) and hell (bad) I don't believe in believe in good versus evil.. For as long as man has been around there has been a struggle with what is dreamed evil or good..
As I said before.. I don't believe in evil. Evil acts, evil thoughts.. But not that someone is truly evil..

 

[blackemerald1]

I understand what you are saying @Changeling. I know labels don't help.

Whether, Evil or Messed Up it's of no value to you, because all of the observations & conversations with these people I had (& I could have given far more) were not comments made to me as a Victim of theirs.

I guess if this is of any value, if you are hearing any of these comments or have been experiencing this behavior than you are not alone.

I do know that Messed Up or Evil both can be prolific liars.

BUT all people lie at various times & some times it's victims of abuse who need to do so to get themselves away from their abuser. It depends on so many variables.

I don't need to lie to anyone & I know when I am telling myself a lie but that is more like motivation lie. Eg you CAN do this just try! But that doesn't help me feel or think I am improving my current mental health status.Especially when when I fail.

It really hurts when you get lied to & it's personal. When so much rides on what you are told turns out to be a pack of lies, it's psychological abuse..

I think lies are like food that looks a bit sus. My policy is when in doubt throw it out.
Good luck

 

[Tinyflame]

@shimmerz , JMHO, but being on the end of actions which could be deemed evil choices or the product of being messed up, still leaves the pain hurt & damage behind. None of us know what all causes us to be messed up, but it is still within one's own responsibility for themself, their actions towards themselves & others. Would we do the same, everything equal, who knows?

Irregardless though, the focus being on yourself to care for & about, seems most important. But I might not be the best source to say. In some ways I have been hurt in so many ways I wonder if it matters. But then, I know it could always be worse or 'more'.

I do believe evil exists, but it's said where evil is there is even more good. The difference to me is evil roars, goodness may be pretty quiet. People look for 'proofs' of goodness, because evil is so in-the-face. But it's there. Like this forum. Or any time too when people change their behaviour towards helping not hurting others.

:hug:

 

[Queen Boudica]

I watched this program about a narcissist who wanted to be adored by the girl he had fallen in love with so set up all these lies about how successful he was and had so much money. Then in order to get the money, the only choice he had in his mind was to kill both his father and mother by stabbing them over and over. Whilst his parents is dying he is crying and saying he had to do this and he was sorry. That just completely threw me. It was explained that his narcissism made him so insecure he had to be loved, so would do anything to do it and could therefore his urges meant he had to kill his parents to do that. So it was excused and he wasn't evil just sick. Now this I don't get. Because he obviously knew he was doing wrong, yet still did it. Could not overcome his selfish needs. Is that evil?

I do hate the word evil although I do see a place for it. My mother would use the term evil on me or anyone who did not agree with her sick views.

Oh and the other thing, after he had done this evil act he distanced himself from it so he did not have to feel the guilt. He knew what he was doing at the time. Did it, felt guilty, couldn't handle it so then goes into denial. Hmmm

 

[oasis2003]

hi
Maybe evil intentions are knowing that you are going to hurt, upset, injure, molest, someone without any conscience of doing a bad thing to them whatever their reason. In a very cold and calculating way. Like a psychopath. There are good intentions towards people ' I will do this and it will make them feel good' . Then there are horrible things they are evil if they know how much it hurts them but they do not care and they still carry on and do it with no shame or guilt afterwards.

Maybe being messed up is not being able to cope with life, emotions, relationships it is overwhelming because of a variety of reasons that have happened to you. Being messed up maybe means not being able to deal with situations or scenarios, guidance or help is needed to deal with it.

Then there is good and evil in the religious sense heaven and hell well I suppose that is a totally different discussion and depends upon peoples beliefs.......