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Hello, I'm new here and reading these posts have help me to get through the past two weeks. I have been dating a man for nearly 3 years, off and on the first 6 months, but 2 years ago we committed ourselves to each other and i moved in with him. We were happy overall, we had a routine and spent as much time together as possible. We've had some arguments but generally we've been very happy. he's so kind and caring to me, he goes out of his way to make me happy, neither of us have kids but I have 2 dogs that he loved unconditionally. he tells me the only thing that makes him happy is making me smile. In the rare occasions we argue he does get very mad sometimes, hes thrown things occassionally and then wants to be left alone, after an hour or 2 when we both have calmed down we both apologize and move on.
He never likes to talk about the past. Several times he's mentioned some horrible things he's been through but not in detail. He mentioned once about his friends dad trying to touch him when he was a kid, also growing up very poor and being ignored by his parents and not even having food to eat as a child. It came up a while back that he had been to jail because of a break up with a girlfriend 20+ years ago (he's 47 im 33) but never went into details. The other day this past came up, he told me about how horrible being in jail was for him (he was there 18 months) he said that the girl he was dating cheated on him then and pressed false charges when he wouldn't take her back. he was young and poor and couldn't afford a lawyer so he went to jail. The issue is the few times it came up in the past the story changed, originally he said he went to jail for a fight with a guy. so naturally i was confused, a day went by and i couldn't get it out of my mind so i pressed and pressed for answers (BIG mistake). he kept saying i was wrong and he wasnt hiding anything but i couldnt let it go, for about 30 minutes we texted and he got really mad and finally stopped responding. When he got home, he said i thought you'd be gone by now and wouldn't talk to me he was visibly mad. His father lives with us, (which i dont understand since he was a horrible father growing up, his dad barely talks to us anyways, but thats his only close family so i just assumed he wanted to try and keep him around for that reason) So anyways , his dad was there when he came home i asked my boyfriend if we could talk and he kept avoiding it then finally he said to his dad "Just tell her what happened" to which his dad just said, something bad happened 20 years ago, it doesnt matter now. My boyfriend just kept getting madder when i spoke. He told me to leave, his dad told me to leave, and he told my boyfriend to leave for a while to calm down. I felt ganged up on so i left, i grabbed some clothes and went to stay at my moms house. we continued to text that night and argue he told me how mean i was and also that he has PTSD!! I NEVER KNEW BEFORE.
Finally he stopped responding altogether, that night he packed all my personal things and placed them in the living room. the next day i came to get a few things. He told me he didnt want to see me and said his dad would be there. I came got my things and told his dad that it was just an argument and i loved his son. His dad told me "i need to stop coming by and end it, he said its over, you 2 arent right for eachother, you need to find someone else". over and over. I was shocked i lived there for 2 years and its mostly been wonderful. He said he was going to urge my boyfriend of these same things and not to talk to me ever again. I asked him not to do that but he said we would anyways.
A few days went by with with no response to my "i'm sorry texts" so i decide to stop by. He was in the garage repairing a door i guess he broke after i left. He was upset (started to tear up but very angry as well) he said he was so mad he couldnt look at me, and he just wanted to be alone. i begged him to let me come home and he said no. He said something in his brain couldnt get over being mad. i asked if i could hug him and he got madder and said no. he just kept telling me to leave but i was heartbroken and confused. I said i knew he loved me and missed me and he agreed but that didnt change anything. finally i saw it was going nowhere so i told him i loved him and im always here for him. as i left he said he loved me 2.
fastforward a week. I started researching ptsd and i decided to write him a letter saying im sorry and that we clearly have miscommunicated and im here for him basically. I went to his house to drop it off after his work day because i knew his dad wouldnt be there then. I knocked on the door, he answered but rolled his eyes when he saw me, he only cracked the storm door so i wouldnt come in. I told him im sorry and i missed him but he just wanted me to leave he said he was still mad and if i cared about him i'd leave him alone, i kept trying to talk for maybe 5 minutes but he just got madder finally i said i wrote you a letter. He didnt want it, but finally he said if i take it will you leave? so i gave it you him and left. This was a few days ago.
It's been 2 weeks since i left the house. He hasnt texted or called, he deleted me off social media but hasnt blocked my phone number. Since then i know hes been working like normal. I still have things in the house like furniture and some personal stuff. He always complains about not having time to sort through things in the house. I drove by(not to stop but just to see if he was mad enough to throw my things away) i noticed a dresser on the curb, its been sitting in the garage as a project we were going to fix together, so i could tell he'd been sorting things. I have other furniture in there and i didnt see anything other than that on the curb. and when i went by previously to get personal things i could tell that the whole has had been sorted through and organized. I guess since ive been gone he's kept bust working and sorting the house out. I dont know if on trash day everthing else of mine will be on the curb or if its a good sign that he's keeping busy organizing. Either way im really hurt, its like he's forgotten the happiness we share most everyday. I don't know if he's really done with me or if he just needs time to stop being mad. I love him unconditionally and i feel like an idiot for bringing up the past, but i didnt know about the ptsd! Had i known about the ptsd i would have never brought up bad issues for him, it's like he just expected me to be perfect without knowing.
Is it stupid to hold out hope he'll text or call?
Should i not try to contact him again?
We've never split up like this and stop talking this long before.
Any advice helpful..
 
Please stop stalking him. He has set boundaries and you're trampling all over them. This is the best way to ensure that things are over for good and he never talks to you again.
 
Please stop stalking him. He has set boundaries and you're trampling all over them. This is the best way to ensure that things are over for good and he never talks to you again.

Eve, I'm really not happy with your word choice here. "Stalked." That's wholly inappropriate. 1confusedgirl is clearly hurting, she was in a relationship for 2 years, living with this person, she has furniture and personal belongings in the house, and now her whole life has been turned upside down. She's come to this forum looking for comfort and clarity, and the very first reply she's going to read is that she's a stalker? Even if it were true that she is not respecting her ex's space and is being too invasive or clinging on too tight (I don't know if there is enough info in her post to make that kind of judgment), labelling her as a stalker is far too extreme.

I often wish that there would be more of an awareness on this forum that people who come on here and share their stories are often heartbroken and are posting here because they don't know where else to turn. When people are in extreme emotional states like this, it's true that they might not be seeing things clearly or acting rationally (not a judgment on the OP), but the bottom line is that they are hurting. Even if you are concerned about her trampling over her ex's boundaries, surely you can take a moment to pause and express yourself in a kinder way -- there is a real person on the other side of that post and they are possibly suffering through the worst time of their life right now.
 
1confused, in response to your post - yes, now is the time to give space. If he does have PTSD, talking about the past with you could have triggered something, could have filled his stress cup (search this forum for "stress cup" if you haven't read about the concept already). When in the throws of really bad PTSD symptoms, the sufferer needs to be alone. As non-sufferers, we think that being there to offer comfort, to apologize for mistakes, to express love, etc. is supportive and sustaining but to a PTSD sufferer that can mean pressure, expectations, and danger.

I don't think anybody can say for sure that what is happening right now is related to PTSD or that he will come back once you have given him space, but I think what we can say for sure is that by not giving him space you are ensuring there will not be reconciliation. Hard as it will be, resist the urge to contact him. Spend some time doing things you love, seeing friends, working on yourself. Reaching out to a therapist for yourself can be really beneficial as well.

If it is PTSD, only by being alone will we have the opportunity to sort out his feelings. If it's not then I can also just tell you from a guy's perspective: having a girl go radio silent is a far more effective way to get us to communicate than her constantly reaching out herself.

I'm sorry you are going through this. It's really painful and shitty.
 
Eve, I'm really not happy with your word choice here. "Stalked." That's wholly inappropriate. 1con...
Thank you, that did hurt seeing the the stalking comment. I don't feel like im stalking, i was just confused and looking for advice. I appreciate your comment, you are very right i feel heart broken and not too logical right now which is why i decided to post here and give my boyfriend space.
 
Even if it were true that she is not respecting her ex's space and is being too invasive or clinging on too tight
I probably wouldn't have gone all the way to "stalker" but clearly there's some part of the phrase "This is over" that the OP doesn't understand.

I have no idea how things got to the point they're at. Doesn't matter. Telling someone to pack up their stuff and go is a pretty definite end to a relationship. My suggestion, at this point, would be, if there are things there you want, give him a list with no other comment. Just "I've still got some stuff at your house. I'd like to get it ASAP. What's the easiest way to do it?" Then, bring a friend along to help, pick it up, and don't get off on revisiting the relationship. Not all relationships work and it doesn't have to be anyone's fault.

Everyone is different. I guess there are people out there who make statements like he did and then change their minds. I'm not sure that's especially healthy. If things aren't working and they get to the point of one person throwing the other out of the house, either it's really and truly over or it's a stupid pattern that's likely to just keep repeating. That doesn't seem like a very healthy way to live.
 
I think you make valid points, scout. It's also a very clinical way to look at it. What I will say is -- I'm not sure if you're a supporter or sufferer -- when your emotions are cranked to 11, it's hard or impossible to think of things clinically. When a relationship has just ended, you can't really subscribe to the idea of just shrugging your shoulders and saying oh well relationships don't work out I guess I'll just send for my stuff and move on. ESPECIALLY if everything was fine until recently.

An abrupt end to a loving relationship after 2 years? And when you lived with the person no less? Radical acceptance of the end of the relationship is just not something an emotionally healthy person is going to be capable of this early in the game.
 
1confused, in response to your post - yes, now is the time to give space. If he does have PTSD, ta...
Thank you, I don't feel comfortable sharing all this with family and friends. It really helps to have another perspective from someone who has similar experiences. Ptsd is all new to me, i honestly had no idea what to think or do. I agree now that i should not contact him. I want things to get better, but was unsure what to do. Since we lived together it makes it pretty difficult to understand. I guess i will just give the space needed and hope he will contact me eventually and we can resolve things or i can at least fully move out. Im trying to stay positive and focus on work and understanding ptsd. Its just sad. i appreciate your advice
 
It is very sad and very confusing. There is a tough love/get over it school of thought that seems to be the go-to approach on here, not really sure where it comes from, but I think more often than not the advice is given with the best of intentions.
 
I'm sure people have the best intentions. It's just too soon to just forget and move on. We were happy, a few days before this fight he told me that he wanted to grow old with me and we had started to discuss marriage. The fact that is was so sudden was what threw me off. I'm used to someone that was my best friend , that went out of his way to make me happy everyday. It was like i was talking to a stranger after this argument. I wish i would have known about ptsd before now.
 
Yes, that all sounds very familiar. As you browse through this forum and read other's stories you will find a lot of similarities. For those that are well versed in PTSD, or perhaps even a sufferer themselves, what they might overlook is how shocking it is to have someone be madly in love with you one day and a cold stranger the next. It's just not part of the normal human relationship experience, and so when it hits us for the first time it is like whiplash. I don't know about you, but I've been broken up with in the past and lost relationships that I was highly emotionally invested in and it hurt, but you could usually see it coming. Arguments were getting bigger, or the relationship was just fizzling out, etc. Unless you had the benefit of knowing a lot about PTSD or knowing someone who suffered from it, seeing someone's feelings turn off like a light for the first time is an awful experience. It's painful, it's confusing, it's not a normal breakup. It doesn't mean that you won't have to one day let this person go and start healing, but you don't have to do that after just two weeks. I mean, by god, it was a two year live-in relationship. You can't be expected to fully resign yourself to its end after just two weeks, especially when the change was so sudden.
 
i feel like an idiot for bringing up the past, but i didnt know about the ptsd! Had i known about the ptsd i would have never brought up bad issues for him, it's like he just expected me to be perfect without knowing.
Why does it take a diagnosis of ptsd to get it through to you that he didn't want to talk about it?
You said yourself that you kept pressing the issue. You only stopped texting because he stopped responding.
As soon as you were home, you carried on with it, until he kicked you out.

All the gory details of his traumatic experiences aren't your business. He isn't obligated to tell you anything.
It seems like all he wanted was for you to just drop the question.
When that didn't happen, he asked you leave him alone to sort out his head. You didn't do that either.

I'm not surprised that he's angry with you. I sure as hell would be.

If you want any chance of possibly salvaging this relationship. Do it by showing him that you are capable of doing the one and only thing he was asking of you.

Leave him alone.
 
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