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Does Anyone Have Experience Of EMDR?

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I have been having EMDR on and off for the past 2 years. I say on and off, as my regular T does it, and uses it as necessary. So sometimes we just talk, sometimes it is EMDR. I had it a lot more in the beginning, less frequently now. I have certainly found it beneficial, although as everyone else has said it is really hard work!

I just wondered though, I have had it using headphones with bilateral auditory tones. I note everyone else on here seems to describe eye movements with finger or lightbar, or knee tapping. Has anyone else used the headphones or am I 'special' ?:p
 
I'd also be very interested in any thoughts or responses on this issue of using auditory tones instead of the usual eye movement methods. I'm totally blind... so, well, the usual methods aren't really going to be doable for me. I know there is this alternative, I just don't know much about it in terms of its relative efficacy or anything. Thoughts anyone?

Maddog
 
Has anyone else used the headphones or am I 'special' ?:p

Awwww, Lucycat of course you are special :inlove:. Seriously though, I haven't done the headphones. My T started with hand tapping and then we used vibrating (once I got over the giggles - such a child) paddles which I would hold in my hand. T would send the intensity (more giggles - I must grow up - not) and the speed. I would then close my eyes and concentrate on the paddles alternating from one hand to another.

I thinkTs use what they think is best for the client and what they themselves are comfortable with. We switched methods as we moved to a new room and the table wasn't the correct height for hand tapping.
 
We have even had a session of tissue scented with special oils wafted underneath my nose!!!! Yes sounds stupid, and I felt like a chump doing it, but smell is the closest thing to the memory part of the brain, and it unlocked stuff I was holding onto with all my might. Ended up, literally, crying like a baby - one of the most intense sessions I ever had.
 
Iam, I am struck by your paragraph on integrating ego states, and your "compassion towards them" I have just started doing some of that and can really relate to your description. It feels like an essential step after the EMDR work. I even had an incredible sense of two ego states meeting that already knew about each other. My T says all the parts are aware of each other on some level, it's just the "me" bit out there that isn't.

It is very powerful stuff isn't it!

PS haven't worked out how to quote someone else's writing so that it appears in that nice little orange box ....can anyone tell me? usually good with computers but haven't figured this one!!
 
I just wondered though, I have had it using headphones with bilateral auditory tones. I note everyone else on here seems to describe eye movements with finger or lightbar, or knee tapping. Has anyone else used the headphones or am I 'special' ?:p

HI Lucy,
I used headphones and hand vibrators which had lights on them. I think having the auditory, vibrations and lights was very beneficial as it hit multiple intake levels. Maybe you can suggest the hand vibrators to your T. Even though you can't see the lights, the corresponding left right vibrations would provide another intake stimulus for you.

I saw two T's weekly, one for EMDR and one for CBT and talk therapy. Even then my EMDR T and I didn't do EMDR every session. The EMDR brought up things that were so extremely distressing that at times I needed a break to talk it thru. Other times there were current issues that took precedence. It's all a process and that process is going to be different for everyone.

Good luck and keep up the hard work!
 
Wow, sometimes I find all this EMDR stuff quite scary... wonder if I've got it in me to go to somewhere that is obviously so deep and dark. Still warring in my mind between thinking that the whole process sounds too weird and wacky to be worth anything more than a giggle (glad to hear you struggled with that KP, as I reckon I might too... out of nervousness if nothing else!) and yet hearing all of your stories of its power. Guess I'll have to just sit tight and wait.

Oh, and thanks for raising the quoting thing Helliepig... I can't figure out how to do that either, very annoying, but typical of me... I'm not good with puters at all!

MD
 
It is a fascinating insight into how your brain works, and shows you how to be your own best friend.... I'd say that kinda makes up for the deep and dark bits. x
 
I can't figure out how to do that either, very annoying, but typical of me... I'm not good with puters at all!

Good question on the quoting. Simply hit "reply" in the bottom right corner of which ever post you want to reply to and it will come up. One note of caution though. Quoting takes up a lot of the forum memory so it's suggested that you don't use the quote function when replying to a post directly before your reply. When you do use the quote function quote only the portion of the post that you are responding too. It's a little tedious to do this as the entire post will be quoted and you have to erase the parts that you aren't responding to. When breaking a post up into separate quotes that you are responding to (as I have done in this post) you need to put the beginning and ending bracketed commands in front of each quote. In this case the beginning command is quote="maddog, post: 271711"
(I am leaving off the brackets ( [ ] )so it doesn't requote ;o). The ending bracketed command is /quote. You will see these bracket [] commands when you hit "reply" and what I am saying will become clear.

To include a quote from 2nd different post (I've included one fro Helliepig below), go up to that post and hit reply after you've done the first one. The second quote will show up in it's entirety too so go thru the same procedure of erasing what sentences aren't needed to be in the quote. Hope this helps ;)

Still warring in my mind between thinking that the whole process sounds too weird and wacky to be worth anything more than a giggle

I too thought the process weird and in the beginning was very anxious that I might not be doing it right (geeze imagine that .... must be the PTSD LOL). It is scary MD and can get very hard. That is why it is imperative that EMDR be done with a qualified EMDR trauma T. Your T will help you through it all, keeping you grounded and stopping when needed. And remember, you can always stop it yourself. Tell your T if you are feeling too overwhelmed and need to stop. Though I must say, I was stubborn, wanting to get thru it. Fortunately my T was very aware of how deep I got and knew when to pull back, even when I didn't. Don't let the fear stop you from doing the EMDR Maddog. It's incredibly hard yes......in fact it's the hardest thing I have ever done......but so very worth it in the end!

Iam, I am struck by your paragraph on integrating ego states, and your "compassion towards them". It feels like an essential step after the EMDR work. I even had an incredible sense of two ego states meeting that already knew about each other. My T says all the parts are aware of each other on some level, it's just the "me" bit out there that isn't.

What I really had the hardest time of accepting was the different ego states. It felt like split personalities to me and I really resisted it. Long into our EMDR work my T had me imagine a conference table in which all of the ego states, including the current adult one, could meet to discuss things. I know my critical ego state was aware of each, not so sure if the others were aware of the others. The critic was in control most of the time and VERY stubborn! Yes, compassion for each of the ego states is essential into integrating them into one whole. I mean.....I sure as hell don't want to listen to anyone who doesn't have compassion for me, let alone allow them to protect me! When I could finally feel compassion for my critical self, that part willingly came into my heart, so to speak, to let me protect her. Really the whole thing is quite INCREDIBLE!
 
We have even had a session of tissue scented with special oils wafted underneath my nose!!!!

We didn't do a whole session on this, but T sometimes used essential oils to help ensure I was back in the present. This actually sparked my interest in aromatherapy. I now carry lemon essential oil with me everywhere as it is so grounding and calming. I also use other oils to help me sleep.

There is a thread about aromatherapy.
 
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Wow IAm, I feel like I've just done an IQ test... and failed!!! Thanks for the great quoting explanation - I think I may need to practice, as my brain is protesting loudly that I shouldn't overtax it without warning like that.

And I know that not knowing when to pull back during EMDR would be a challenge for me too. I'm actually quite wreckless about such things - sometimes when I'm massively distressed I think it's almost a form of emotional and psychological self harm to continue to push myself into places that are hugely distressing and overwhelming, and sometimes I think that it's just that I'm not good at recognizing or responding to my feelings or emotions at all and have a very odd and eratic emotional pain threshhold.

Thankfully T is much better at this than I am and frequently pulls me back and out when he feels it's necessary, and is very persistent, bordering on forceful, when for some reason I'm not always easily retrieved. It's weird... scary, but important to bear in mind.

Maddog
 
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