Does Robert Have Severe PTSD as Expressed?

[becvan]

I was only able to watch about 2 minutes of the video (my laptop refuses to load them) but there is no way this guy has PTSD at all. Look at his body language. He is very open and relaxed. He doesn't have his arms crossed or his legs tight together. He's staring directly at the therapist. His voice is even and relaxed. He's very close to the therapist (almost touching him actually.)

Then there is this "therapist." Did you notice in the first minute that he made this snapping sound and jerked his hand high up and towards his "client?" Anyone with PTSD of any severity, would have been three feet out of that chair.

Completely staged and complete bull. Totally disgusting.

bec

 

[Deleted member 541]

I don't think the video is about Robert having PTSD at all, but rather to *sell* EFT therapy. More like a commercial of sorts to sell their goods. At least that was my take on it.

When I was full blown PTSD, I could not have sat that calmly, and talked about my trauma. Today, I am more likely to sit somewhat still, but the emotions are still raw, I cry, I get angry, and can feel the anxiety.

 

[Grama-Herc]

Sorry to say it but this is trash. My heart was beating faster than his and all I was doing was just watching the video.

I was even somewhat accepting of him until he got close to the end. This IS NOT a man with ptsd. Or else he is brain dead. No one could remain that calm and relate that story.

 

[midi]

The fact that you're being video taped would have me hyperventilating. I probably wouldn't even show up. Snapping fingers is not cool, unless you want me to jump out of my skin. Don't sit so damned close, thank you very much. I'd be doing something with my hands constantly to keep calm.

The jibber jabber talk would make me shut right down. Don't touch me. I'm sorry, but when I talk about incidents that bother me, I still get pretty emotional. Some things, though, I do speak about as if it happened to somebody else.

I said don't touch me. I could not just sit there like sleeping molasses. I don't care what kind of therapy it is, I stopped watching half way through. Sorry, gotta leave now, the guy in charge is just too overbearing.

Maybe it's an infomercial?

 

[Nicolette]

I don't have PTSD but based on what I know and have seen I don't think Robert has severe PTSD.

 

[anthony]

I'm with you on this Wendy... hence why I posted it. I believe this is a marketing ploy, which honestly disguists me a little, even though I know marketing is all fake. When you market to mentally ill though, one would think the patient would atleast be real when using YouTube as a medium vs. expensive means such as TV.

Tammy, thanks for your input. I love to here those with experience share whether something is right or not. I know PTSD shows in many ways, however; I know enough people and have met enough with PTSD that every single person shows anxiety if made uncomfortable in some way, having to talk about their trauma, etc.... even willingly, the person still exibits anxious tendancies every single time. This is how physicians often so easily tell between PTSD vs. Acute Anxiety. PTSD brings with it extreme anxieties that no sufferer can control when under such circumstances.

That sort of stuff disguists me a little.

 

[anthony]

I have a friend who swears by this technique. I purchased the dvds on her recommendation and found that I did not benefit from the technique. Instead of 'borrowing benefits' as they say someone will who watches these vids and taps along--I was re-triggered.

Yer... what works for one though may not work for another. I believe that all techniques should be tried if you haven't found the one that works for you, to help / assist you to process your trauma head on.

Good to hear your experience though Dorothy.... thank you.

 

[cragger65]

No, I think he has a tendency to think about these things that have happened, and probably does have anxiety and depression from those memories/feelings. But when I was in the thick of PTSD (I'm managing a little better nowadays) I would have been either in tears or RANTING, pacing around the room or leaning forward at that T like I was about to bite him. Maybe this guy had full-blown PTSD years prior, but it has definately mellowed into something else now.

 

[Manic11]

The only thing that might be different is that this guys trauma is 30 years old, so maybe IF he has severe PTSD maybe after all that time he's got good at hiding it!

That definitely what I thought when I first saw the video but I found it sort of odd how he was magically cured overnight. I agree with everyone in this post... It's bogus.

 

[fin]

I have been thinking a little about this, and am almost feeling it chipping away at me. I would hate to make a rash generalisation of either the therapy or the guy's suppposed PTSD, based solely on what we have watched, just because it doesnt fit with my experiences.

I know what I have said twice now here, but it is still bothering me that I have judged this man and also the therapist. But please I am not back tracking so please read on...

I am trying to see this from a different point of view, if this is marketing...well I am wondering who the target audience is; because it isn't working for those of us that have responded here (-but that doesnt mean that everyone here feels the same or is in agreement on this point) but so far as this being an advert of some kind I think for me personally it fails to achieve anything belivable or plausible.

And as far as this poor man having pTSD goes, just because I am not able to see that he reacts or is the same as me in it doesn't mean he hasn't got it. And only further and perhaps personal observation would shed anymore light on this for me to think he has.

I would hate to think that people decided to forego the therapy that the therapist "seems" to be advocating based solely on this infomercial...because it is exactly that; one persons viewpoint, and I think perhaps it is very skewed and maybe we would have to ask ourselves why?

Of course thinking and overthinking things can get us into trouble..I just think that I may well have jumped the gun and also I just don't think it is for me to judge on this.

I know where I stand on this matter and I guess some others now...but without additional evidence I would not make a PTSD diagnosis, nor run out to buy the therapists product.

I do think it leaves very much to be desired, but none of it means anything unequivocaly so...


~fin


I have to say as an also to everything else though; I am really amazed the "clients" voice didn't waver or anything either, no emotional response out of the laid back ordinary and maybe that is unusual in itself.

Maybe he has other comobidities out of the standard norm that we are used to, although again I would have thought if that were case the therapist would either have shared this knowledge or chosen another client to film. No matter what; this is a bad ad for anything or any "product", and again maybe we should ask why this has been put out there for the world to see.

What clients does this guy hope to have? because I wouldnt really want to mess with a bunch of angry PTSD'ers hell bent on a refund if "his" brand of treatment didn't work. Because again this is only one persons viewpoint of both treatment and diagnosis.

Although I still don't think he is PTSD, I dont have to. And I am going with my gut on this for myself.

 

[Claire]

I think from an advertising point of view this sells EFT better. I'm not saying its the best ad in any way but what I am saying is that showing a person in a lot of distress would put a lot of people off. As far as I'm aware it's not a magic cure so they'd have to act it all to show that it was. They are using a subject that the public accept as traumatic eg. war and then they have a story that is obivously traumatic but its very superficial.

I think they are showing a 'dumbed down' version of trauma that is acceptable to the masses. Real it is not. Accurate it is not but this is advertising! Do you really believe that washing powder gets ALL the grass stains out?

BTW I work in the marketing/advertising industry. :crazy: I think this ad is unsetting to us because we know only too well that its a load of rubbish.

 

[2quilt]

Yes, we know that it is rubbish, but people who are new to PTSD are being led astray.