General Doing research; found something that rings true for me.

[LovingH]

Wait, connecting the dots, are you saying that you have PTSD because of the douchebag way in which you were dumped?

You cannot get PTSD from being dumped, even if you call it abandonment.....it’s still being dumped.

I think we solved the mystery as to why so many people come here and say they have PTSD from a breakup. It’s that website that pushes the idea that breakup=abandonment and abandonment=PTSD.

No. It's not just that. I have PTSD from the drug reaction that put me in the hospital for 2 weeks. Plus, being dumped because of it.

I'm also a breast cancer survivor.

And yes, I do believe you can get PTSD from being emotionally and verbally abused, which I was, in an awful rebound rel'ship with a sociopathic narcissist right after my divorce.

Just to add onto this a bit...

The only diagnostic subtype of PTSD is Dissociative (not related to what kind of trauma someone experienced).

Unofficial subtypes still don’t micromanage down to individual traumas... but are shorthand for clinicians to help them recognize common trends amongst sufferers (victim related, natural disaster, survivors guilt, perpetrators guilt, single event, multiple event, mild moderate severe, chronic, complex -not to be confused with complex PSTD, complex trauma and complex treatment and complex PTSD are 3 different things).

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Even the oft heard Combat PTSD isn’t a subtype, it’s just slang/ shorthand (from a population notorious for removing whole words and sentences and speaking in acronyms whenever the chance presents :cool:).

Ask yourself how often you hear someone say I have Rape PTSD, I have Kidnapping PTSD, Abuse PTSD, CSA PTSD, Starvation PTSD, Neglect PTSD, MVA PTSD, DV PTSD, Mauled By An Animal PTSD, Ice climbing PTSD, Terrorist Attack PTSD, Bridge Collapse PTSD, etc. You don’t. You hear people say I have PTSD from ____________ -or- from being ____________.


The only times you’ll usually run into <insert thing here> PTSD? (Outside of vets being lazy, and refusing to use extra words)

- People attempting to attach non-qualifying events to the disorder (for various reasons; validation, attention, money, ignorance, just to name a few common ones.)

- People running a scam. Take our seminar! Buy our book! Check out our webpage! (Scamming google for buzzwords to attract traffic or ad revenue? Is still a scam.)

Abandonment? Is very often a facet of life threatening trauma. Whether childhood abuse/neglect, or raped and abandoned on the side of the road to die, or abandoned under fire and left to die, or imprisoned and abandoned and left to die (note the theme here ;)) ... the abandoment piece can be a seriously difficult and complex part in a lot of different kinds of traumas... just like the betrayal piece can be a real motherf*cker in a lot of different kinds of trauma, or the helpless piece, etc... but abandonment itself isn’t a qualifying trauma. Much less it’s own subtype. Being left is different from being left to die.

Similar to being cheated on may be what hurt the most in an abusive relationship, but it was the abuse that was life threatening. PTSD isn’t caused by what hurts the most, nor even what f*cks you up the most.

if your ex abused you, and drugged you, and left you to die? That he left you may hurt the most, but the life threatening trauma would be the piece that makes PTSD a possibility.

How did you guys miss the other things I've said on this forum?

And also, I had a drug reaction where I almost died. My exhusband left me while I was in the hospital. I was in a semi-comatose state for 2 wks, woke up and had nobody I cared about around me. How is that not enough trauma to cause abandonment issues?

 

[Friday]

How is that not enough trauma to cause abandonment issues?

It’s absolutely enough trauma to cause abandonment issues.

And abandonment issues can be very wrapped up in your trauma history.

But the site you linked is claiming there is such a thing as Abandoment PTSD. There isn’t.

It also claims that abandonment in and of itself is enough to cause PTSD. It doesn’t.

 

[EveHarrington]

And yes, I do believe you can get PTSD from being emotionally and verbally abused, which I was, in an awful rebound rel'ship with a sociopathic narcissist right after my divorce.

But you have other qualifying criterion A trauma so it’s impossible to say your PTSD is from being emotionally abused, especially since your criterion A trauma happened before the bad rebound relationship.

Right now the diagnosis doesn’t provide for emotional abuse causing PTSD.

 

[LovingH]

Thx for explaining.

 

[Justmehere]

The illness, trauma, loss, and abandonment you have been through is very serious and very real, and it could contribute to any number of mental health conditions. Or none at all, but still be deep and legit suffering.

PTSD isn't just about the event causing the disorder. The diagnosis is based on symptoms as well. Most people who go through trauma don't end up with PTSD. Be careful about seeking a stigmatized diagnosis to verify you have been dealt a horrible hand of cards and that your ex is a horrible excuse for a human. That's clear with or without PTSD from what has happened.

It's good to research conditions, even better to compare it to widely accepted well-reputed resources, and best to sort out any suspected diagnosis with a mental health care professional who is qualified to diagnose.

Self-diagnosis of major mental health disorders is a little like trying to bite one's own teeth, and diagnosis by internet search alone can lead to a lot of confusion.

 

[Bpd and ptsd]

Borderline personality disorder and complex ptsd can be interlinked but come from both environmental factors but borderline is related to fear of abandonment and reactions of people abandoning you causing severe stress complex ptsd is a multiple traumas developed prolonged and terror but sense of abandonment can be just as traumatic depending on how you defined that relationship if you still have terror in your body and can't move on from the past and are stuck and frozen I would classify that as ptsd or in my words ( the horror syndrome)

 

[LovingH]

Borderline personality disorder and complex ptsd can be interlinked but come from both environmental factors but borderline is related to fear of abandonment and reactions of people abandoning you causing severe stress complex ptsd is a multiple traumas developed prolonged and terror but sense of abandonment can be just as traumatic depending on how you defined that relationship if you still have terror in your body and can't move on from the past and are stuck and frozen I would classify that as ptsd or in my words ( the horror syndrome)

Yeah, no. I know for sure I am not BPD but thx.

Be careful about seeking a stigmatized diagnosis to verify you have been dealt a horrible hand of cards and that your ex is a horrible excuse for a human.

Um..that's not what I'm doing. The issues I've had pre-date my ex. By a long shot. And no, I don't even THINK he's a "horrible excuse for a human." I just think he has a LOT of work to do in therapy.

 

[Sweetpea76]

@LovingH, not the ex with PTSD, the ex who left you in the hospital. There is no need to get defensive.

 

[blackemerald1]

Have you been formally diagnosed by a psych., with ptsd or did you just find that internet site and try and work it out for yourself?

Sorry I'm confused now. :/

 

[LovingH]

Have you been formally diagnosed by a psych., with ptsd or did you just find that internet site and try and work it out for yourself?

Sorry I'm confused now. :/

I refuse to see a psychiatrist after my horrific experiences. They prescribed a drug for me that almost killed me. So no..I will never see a psychiatrist ever again.

The only thing that saved me from my anxiety disorder was cognitive behavioral therapy. Psychiatrists just want to put you on meds.

 

[EveHarrington]

Uhm do you realize what you are doing?

You aren’t diagnosed but run around telling everyone here you have ptsd and you’re both a supporter and a sufferer, but your boyfriends ptsd is totally different from yours.

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe you don’t have ptsd?

I think this may take the cake in terms of people coming here and claiming ptsd without being diagnosed.

 

[blackemerald1]

Psychiatrists just want to put you on meds.

Well.. maybe where you live or in your experience but not in mine. No.. that's not the only thing psychiatrists do or can do. You could simply go and ask for a diagnosis and treatment that excludes drugs.

They prescribed a drug for me that almost killed me.

^Sorry you had this experience with that drug. How did it almost kill you? I too have a bad track record with psych drugs so I don't take them anymore. However, that's just me and I know for sure they help millions of ppl with a variety of mental health disorders. So they're not all bad.

my anxiety disorder was cognitive behavioral therapy.

^Really pleased you've found a treatment/therapy that is working.

So.. sorry I'm still unclear - where did you receive your ptsd diagnosis?