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Ever Feel Conflicted On Touch Or Dissociation?

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I know many of us with PTSD often feel detachment, avoidance, and even want to be left alone. I am an outgoing person with many friends, but none of them are close relationships in which I ever talk about my feelings or past. This is also the case with family members. Even typing this makes me cringe. I have had PTSD for as long as I can remember. I have avoided touch and talking about things my entire life, preferring to keep it to myself rather than admit my weaknesses. While most of the time I would rather die than be seen as anything but strong, sometimes I feel like a little kid emotionally. Wanting to be comforted and held, but not by anyone I know or have known. Does anyone else suffer from this along with PTSD, or is it something more complex? Are there any coping mechanisms for this?

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Anonymous
 
I do not have any wisdom to offer you, but I do want to thank you for the bravery and honesty of your post. It helps me understand my partner better. I hope you will get more helpful replies from those who have walked in your shoes.
 
Yes, I struggle with this too and have always been like this. I'm really only now, in my 30's, coming to terms with this being possibly/probably related to PTSD from things in my early past. Can identify with wanting to be comforted but not by anyone that I know. I honestly don't know how to start healing from this, so will hope someone comes along who is further along in their recovery who can shed some light.
 
I am a bit different in general but the following I do relate to:
Wanting to be comforted and held, but not by anyone I know or have known.

There are times when I am desperate to have any physical touch from someone but no one I know. For example I will be on a train and have to stop myself putting my head on the person next to me's shoulder. And yet would not be able to go near anyone I am close to or know or have the desire to do so.
 
Hi yeah I know this one....in fact I needed it so much I started to design furniture and clothing that would replicate it for me. I've been strong and defiant for ages and all my effort was work/academic so as to get to a place were I felt it was appropriate and in an environment with people that I wanted to let the emotion in/out. Be careful with this, your body can only take so much. Touch is a massive part of development, especially in neuron-receptors that if not properly grown can direct your behavior/emotion against your own better judgement.

By the way...here's a virtual one...:)

:hug:
 
Actually, Im not sure which why round I use this anymore....I used to dissociate and touch would calm me down but not ground me in the sense of bringing back to reality, more taking me to a fantasy of what I need and I've gotten a bit too dependent on it I think at the expense of reality.
 
Just wanted to add anonymous that I relate to the following to:
but none of them are close relationships in which I ever talk about my feelings or past. This is also the case with family members
I would rather die than be seen as anything but strong,

I never spoke to anyone about my feelings. Its a very hard habit to break. I only realised this and how impossible I find it a few years ago. Since then I have pushed myself hard to practice online and it has helped a lot but I am still unable to translate that into real life. And I am often unable to speak at all in therapy.

I did have touch with others but just went inside myself and did not even realise it was a problem for me until recently or realise what I did. Touch is not as difficult for me all the time. It waxes and wanes but it is always complicated and sometimes impossible. And the cravings when they comes are very hard.

I also have this I am strong and will do anything to avoid the alternative! And I do think this feeds into the rest. That is another part of what I have worked on in recent years. Trying to accept that needing others or comfort is not weak. That admitting my distress or dysfunction is not weak.

Its hard work.

The above may be very different to you but I thought I would share just in case.
 
Thank you everyone for your comments, and no Abstract, that is totally spot on for me as well. I have always been the one people come to with their problems, but never and I mean never talked about it myself. I think a lot of it was difficulty in describing what I was feeling. Because I was so young at the time of dealing with PTSD, I just learned to numb myself to it rather than being able to understand what was happening. My parents have been understanding and supportive, but they were so strict in the past I have a huge fear of failure and being weak. I am still not able to admit to people outside of the PTSD group that I need other and comfort, but this forum it helping me a lot.

Thank you everyone!
 
I don't understand either. On one hand I want to lock myself away from every one, I never want to be seen or anyone to know me. On the other I want to have someone safe who I could just lay next to in a little ball and cry every last tear out of my body. The level of safety required for this is immense, the level of trust and even intimacy (by which I don't necessarily mean sexual). I want to be able to let someone get so close I can let my guard down and yet I don't want to let it down for long enough to know anyone.
 
Dear Abstract, Anonymous and Kas (and others),

We are in a really hard place, aren't we? Experience has taught us to be strong in order to survive, and yet we are keeping the help and support that we desperately need, at more than arms length away!!!:(
 
nd yet we are keeping the help and support that we desperately need, at more than arms length away!!!
Its ironic and sad Jacnic. I real trap that is hard to escape and retrain oneself out of. :(

but this forum it helping me a lot.
Thats really good to hear. I hope your mother can be more and more there for you too. Sometimes if the person is generally healthy they can learn from their mistakes and change. I hope that for you and that you can ask for what you need.
 
I'm so relieved to have found this subject/topic. I have such an ardent & adamant subconscious & conscious conflict where this is concerned. Recently, I've realized I've been expressing it (in circuitous terms) all my adult life. I'm not a robot. I'm not a phlegmatic archetypal tough guy who doesn't need touch or comforting, although I must seem like it the majority of the time. Sometimes I just crave a connection, even a fleeting connection, but like many of you have mentioned, I am reluctant to allow that connection with anyone I know well.

It's such a vexing paradox, because the only people I trust enough to really "touch" me underneath the masculine armor, are the very people I have maintained a subtle & affable distance from (as I am cognizant of just how vulnerable I may be to them, & how they subsequently may hurt me as a result). I have been berated (often emotionally) for that distance, & repeatedly. It's innate, I don't even do it purposely. It's such an ingrained defense mechanism, & it's done with such adroitness, it astounds & perplexes even I. At times, I recognize these patterns, but the protective instinct is so powerful, & it's so much easier to dismiss thoughts of anything else, I succumb to the habit. I gently push people away so consistently, eventually they just give up & accept it. Then, I have accomplished the protective detriment to intimacy.

Then there is the disassociation. Occasionally, in intimate moments... usually when something affectionate &/or emotional is requested of me (& I feel amiably backed into an unexpected corner as a result), something occurs & I just elude the entire impetus (mutual or otherwise) by just affably checking out.

In years past I used to go out & indulge in fleeting "connections". However, that backfired the last time I did that when a sustained & continuing "connection" was pursued & requested. Ultimately (due an extended series of seemingly trivial events such as kissing & inquiring about certain bodily scars), that crashed & burned when I instinctively flinched away from her (violently) when she touched my thigh while bathing me in compliments the next afternoon.

So, I am alone. I am exceptionally adept at relating to & with people & I attract them because of this, but conversely, I am isolated. The isolation gap protects me. It is easier. It is subconsciously logical. I torture myself with thoughts of wanting to close that "gap". To be touched (& not just in a lascivious &/or salacious manner) & held & all that intimate mushy goodness... but maybe it's just not to be, or indeed, simply impossible. My last long-term relationship? Almost 15 years ago. I meet people, they are attracted to me, then I convince myself there is a "gap", & I produce myriad reasons as to how or why it cannot be closed.

As of last summer, flashbacks & PTSD exacerbation made me extremely difficult for me to touch & be touched. It became especially salient in the fall, & it wasn't until this spring that it began to subside. Eventually, for maybe the second time in my life, I confided to someone as to what was happening & why. I'm conflicted about having done that too. It was sort of an explanation & apology as to that "distance". Now, I'd like to be touched. I'd like to have some connection. Maybe I'd disassociate, maybe I'd flinch away. I don't know. I'll never know unless I try. Now i seriously feel like I'll never have the chance or opportunity again. I am still very tentative & timorous, & I have never been able to initiate such things (I have never kissed without being kissed for that "first kiss" for example). Maybe that part of me is just dead. Too haunted by the wraiths of it's past to crawl from the grave & dust itself off.

Lately, I don't even feel "human" half the time. I'm like a colorfully striped animal in a cage. They come to gaze at the animal. They lean against the bars. They aggrandize the animal, & show it to their friends as if it were somehow their own. Ingratiating the animal, & their familiarity of it, as if a vague discovery of some sort. They toss some sustenance into the cage at times, but no one really feeds it by hand. No one ever really enters the cage anymore, & I/it seldom leaves its confines.
 
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