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General Everybody so strict about table manners, unable to eat?

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Well... I am sorry, this has happened to you but this has really nothing to do with my Vet‘s situation.

Some people in our family tell him he is being fat. His little brother is one of the worst, tells him he has a fat ass and so on... but I don’t. I am worried about his diet because a doctor said it sucked... and if he doesn’t eat, he doesn’t sleep I am not disappointed that my vet is imperfect. I am imperfect too... I am really not a beautyqueen. I am just sad that he is unwell... came here to discuss it with the other spouses. This is not about imperfection but about being worried for him.

As I said before: Vet has a mouth in his face. If he thinks that I do not treat him right he can tell me. I won’t be offended.
 
Because people who have been overly criticized and have low self esteem from being abused just do. Culture also plays a role. It isn't uncommon for people to feel uncomfortable and embarrassed when they receive praise.

This. I forgot to address the praise part. I’m so accustomed (I guess?) to criticism that when someone compliments me in any small way I get incredibly uncomfortable for four reasons. 1. I don’t believe them, had enough criticism to override it. 2. I wonder if they are straight up lying or just being condescending. 3. I have no clue how to respond which causes sheer panic in my brain because I just know I’m going to screw things up right away. And 4. I’m not worth it.
 
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@Kubash16 and @Fadeaway - Keep in mind this is the supporter area... this isn’t the place to bring outside issues. There is the whole rest of the forum for that. If questions or phrases bother you, it is best to give this thread a pass.

@Never_falter2 it’s best to take the advice that is helpful and leave the rest.

Let’s keep this thread on topic please. She is obviously worried about her husband’s health, and it’s coming from a loving place.
 
I’m sorry, I saw it in the general area so didn’t think anything of it. But I did offer a sufferers perspective. Some of the things she said/implied really bothered me, so again I am sorry.
 
I too am concerned about her husbands health, but I would hope anyone would call out such statements no matter where they saw it.

While I have no doubt her concerns come from a loving place, I know that the best intentions can sometimes make things worse when you don't have the personal experience to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

How much control does @Never_falter2 have over what he eats? If he doesn't shop for himself that is one thing, but if he goes out and buys his junk food than there isn't much she can do or say without the possibility of it backfiring which is my main concern. Eleminating stress around food would be one thing she could do.

Not calling to attention that she is monitoring his intake would be the first step to reducing stress.
 
I know that the best intentions can sometimes make things worse when you don't have the personal experience to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
Like being a combat vet who takes great relief in decision making about basic things like food & clothes being taken care of by someone else... as opposed to someone coming from Childhood Abuse/neglect or Domestic Violence who finds someone else controlling their food and clothes absolutely intolerable?

Relaxing & Relieving
Intolerable & Stressful


but I would hope anyone would call out such statements no matter where they saw it.
There was no mention of abuse, merely a decision to stop eating when their spouse made a comment about their weight.

The idea that all relationships should be assumed to be abusive unless otherwise stated, and not only that but so incrediably abusive that the person is unable to take responsibility for their own choices, because they have no good choices? Choose not to eat or be beaten half to death, then raped and locked in a basement and not allowed to eat, until they can make the “right” choice to not eat? Isn’t a) relevant since that’s not what Neverfalter is doing to her husband nor the history he’s coming from, and b) not normal. That’s traumatic thinking.

Even in Eating Disorder Land if someone calls you huge and fat and disgusting it’s still your responsibility and your choice to eat or not eat. No one is making you eat/not-eat like in Abuse-Land. It’s your decision. Which people are reminded of, frequently. The power and control is all yours, no one else’s. No one else can make you not eat. You decided to do that. Own it. <<< That’s not something to call someone out over. That’s something to call out. And hold close. in ED-Land. >>> Every second? Pfft. Of course not. Just when people are looking to you for confirmation of their helplessness, to get you to co-sign on it. IE maaaaybe 1% of the time. If that. Unless they’re using you to reality check, and then maaaaybe more often. But whether here testing the waters on if you’ll enable their eating disorder, or trusting you to tell them the truth when they’re having problems seeing... Most of the time when dealing with someone else with ED, the best advice is to completely ignore what they’re eating/not eating. Because all getting on someone about their eating does is make it harder for them.

But this is neither Eating Disorder Land, nor Abuse-Land.

You talked about walking in someone else’s shoes.

Try... Could my husband’s strict upbringing be playing a part in his eating issues, or are they entirely PTSD related?

Separating out PTSD & Childhood altogether, not one and the same, and removing any and all Childhood Abuse, Domestic Violence, or Eating Disorder assumptions or generalities. Because those aren’t his shoes. Nor what his wife is attempting to learn/understand/help with.

It’s perfectly natural when familiar issues like food & GI Problems come up for everyone who is dealing with or has dealt with those issues to offer the best they have to share on the subject / their own personal experience. But that doesn’t mean that their issues around food are going to be anyone else’s issues around food. Especially not when they’re niche issues. Like abuse histories and eating disorders.

You’re a pro... better than most, I’m sure you can see that.

Can you also see where people’s personal trauma histories flooded into the Supporters Area until niche advice for niche issues suddenly became the only advice? Where things suddenly became very black and white?

I hope you’ll take this in the spirit in which it’s meant... which is kindly... because I really do believe you had the best of intentions.
 
Fair enough.

It was a knee jerk reaction based on other threads by @Kubash16 I will give you that. I do see what @Never_falter2 said about his childhood as being more than just strict and having the potential to cause issues with food on top of his health problems. Am I projecting and making assumptions? I don't know. I do want help though because I do like her and have learned a lot from her about the culture over there.
 
We welcome sufferer input... we get a lot of good advice and perspective most of the time. However, this is “our house”, so to speak, and this is the one place we shouldn’t have to tiptoe around sufferer reactions. Lord knows tiptoeing all day long at home is exhausting enough.

A lot of posts here are going to be irritating, triggering, or emotional for sufferers to read.

That’s all well and good... just don’t bring it all in here. At the end of the day these threads are for supporters, not for sufferers working out any issues.

Now... back on topic. Seriously.
 
and this is Really, really sad, you know?
Yes. It totally sucks watching the one you love with crap like this going on.

his diet was the reason for him having constipation not the other way around
I think that this turns into a cycle. The initial constipation may have been from eating junk....but then once he's hurting the only thing that sounds good is more junk which then makes the constipation worse.

I am curious if he takes fiber and/or probiotic supplements? If not, would he be open to it?

I am trying to be very nice, like praising him for eating right and not guilt tripping him.

I do this too. My vet can never remember if he's eaten when he symptomatic. I have to check the trash and sink for any added packaging or dirty dishes to figure out if he's eaten. I also worry when there's nothing there. And then I nicely try to encourage him to get something down. And like you, he knows none of this. Just knows that I'm always offering him food and complimenting him. Can you imagine how guilty they would feel if they knew how much we worried about them with things like this?

Anyways, sending good vibes to you and easy bowel movements to your hubby. ?
 
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