Heh, well my movie quote was a little bit to post.... I agree with you SD, kids need to have room to succeed, fail, grow. They need love. But they also need to know respect and discipline.
Kids are no different than adults in many respects. The punishment needs to fit the "crime."
One of the things that gets my blood boiling is parents that let their kids run amok in a restaurant. Yelling, screaming, running around their table and mine, throwing things and the parents sit there, chuckling, like this is cute and acceptable behavior. "My child is such a free spirit." They say. Maybe this is a touchie-feelie California thing, but FFS. I want to smack the parent, not the child. The child is only doing what their parents have allowed them to do. The parents on the other hand... The back of my hand I want to be giv'n them.