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General Faith And Ptsd

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I am really glad I found this thread. First, I continue to struggle with the phrase "everything happens for a reason". I have been thinking about it a lot in the last few days. Most times, I struggle, then just give up on trying to understand. After reading this thread, though, I am reminded of scriptures that I had forgotten, and I am grateful for that. :)

I have to be careful reading the Bible. I hear more judgment than love. I can't go to church either. I have found that even though, I should find Him there, I just don't. I don't get comfort from the people. Eventually the same statements get said: "I don't understand why God doesn't heal you from this." As if I am not praying enough or doing enough? As if I DESERVE this? After a dozen churches, I have had to realize that maybe my path isn't the traditional one.

My husband and I pray together most Sundays sometimes out loud, sometimes silently. My prayers these days consist of trying to live a Godly life and have a Godly marriage. Also, to help me deal with things that I can't control that cause me so much stress.

In addition to lots of gratitude, I ask Him to help me see what I cannot see, hear what I cannot hear and understand what I do not understand. I think it helps me be more open to His will.

To continue an earlier post about the child with a peanut allergy, I think of someone who lost a leg in an accident. Would a Christian in a church seeing this person missing a leg, say I just don't understand why God doesn't give you a new leg? No one would expect that. But it is sad, as others have said, that those of us with mental illness are treated like we could actually DO something about our PTSD to cure it. After thinking about this analogy I have come to realize that if God would not replace this person's leg, why am I expecting Him to cure my mind?

As someone else said (sorry I can't quote you) we can heal, but we can't have the damage undone. Just like the person with the missing leg. His/her wound can heal, but he can never get his leg back. He might have to learn to do things differently. He will have to accept that he is no longer "normal". He can adjust and find a way to do the things that gives him happiness. But the road will be long and hard. Just like those of us with PTSD or anyone with a chronic illness. It's unfair, though, that we are faced with impossible expectations from others.

I don't know how my abuse could possibly fit into God's plan. I get angry when I try to figure it out, which is what brought me to this thread. :) But I do know that He was there. I can't explain how I know, I just do. And after 2 decades of learning to cope with this illness, I have come to see the DID I experienced as a blessing. I would not have survived my childhood without DID.

I also have no idea about heaven. I have spent a lot of time worrying about it. All I know is that whatever is there, I want to my best to live a life that God would be pleased with to the best of my ability. Some days my ability probably isn't much!

To Army_Brat_88: I hear your anger. After losing everyone I knew when I began to put boundaries in place to find a emotionally healthier way to live my life, I couldn't see God in any of my loss. I got really angry. But no matter how much I wanted to give up on God, I just couldn't. For myself, no God equals no hope. I just can't let go of the belief that I am alive because God was there. Rather than looking at what I lost, I try (and sometimes I forget) to remember that I am still here, and I still believe it's because of Him.

I respect how you feel and understand it. I know you aren't asking for advice, so you don't have to take it. :geek: If you do decide to believe again, just give yourself a break. You don't have to go to church or push yourself so hard. I have found this really hard to do - to just love God without any expectations.

Thanks again for starting this thread. I plan to keep reading!
 
I used to be a huge Christian. When I first joined this site I was still. I prayed and prayed for changes in my situation with my sufferer, and over a year later I can say for certain I've wasted every moment of that time.

I've lived my life with God, and the past few months I've now begun to live my life w/o God and you know what? There's not an ounce of difference between the two. If anything, walking away has calmed me down 100% more than the waiting situation I was in wasting time in prayer and beliefs.

I've decided to just go into athiest mode instead. It's sparing me a lot of stress and anger. I see so many people on this site suffering and nothing seems to happen.

In all the years I'd walked the Christian walk, I look back on it and don't see anything that would ever make me promote doing it to anyone. It's nothing but suffering and misery. We're supposed to believe that on earth you may live like that, but you'll get your reward when you pass on.

I still have a heart for people and situations. I want to be a good and decent person. That hasn't gone away, but I'm not doing it for any fake "God" or "heaven". I'm doing it for me and me alone, because I like being good to people. I'd done enough praying and Bible reading in my life for 30 people. It's been so nice to walk away and free up my time and emotions.

I've been thinking a lot about your post Brat - because I SOOOO get it. In my experience the relationship between "being" a Christian and morality is.... tenuous. And there are some very very bad "Christian" communities out there. And more bad theology (not to mention ethics) than you could shake a stick at. So giving up on the whole shebang is eminently sensible when you have so much more on your plate. Particularly if the community you were a part of was not terribly helpful to you.

Here is the strange thing for me, I wouldn't call myself any kind of a Christian, not really. I try to be a good person, I have read the Book a few times. Heck, I teach parts of it regularly for my work. A friend of mine once spent a long two hours after dinner trying to decide whether I was a Christian or not - He decided I was - but I think it was a close thing, and I don't really understand why he thought so. I think I'd make the call the other way, but... he thinks more about this stuff than I do.

I respect giving up a belief in God having run aground on the problem of evil. It seems both honest and brave to me. I agree (and so, incidentally does a rather famous 18th century philosopher Immanuel Kant) that believing in God despite the existence of real and persistent evil in the world requires a belief in the afterlife, or some kind of afterlife - karma/reincarnation works out too. For myself I am "metaphysically promiscuous" I am not too attached to any particular theory overall, and just kind of adopt what works in a particular situation. Kind of like working with light as a wave sometimes, and as a particle other times. (what it "really" is I've never "gotten.":confused: ) But I always feel a little... sloppy about it.

I guess what I wanted to say to you, because I find God (not the weird narrow one found in a lot of churches) very compelling and comforting, is that as you go along you may find there is a God even beyond the anger (which, on any objective view of the matter is totally justified.) Life is long, and the world is a big place. And I hope it someday seems like a friendlier one to you, if it doesn't now. I've found "something" that helps me along. I'm not great at explaining it, but it's a source of hope and strength, and doesn't require anything other than being the best me I can be, which includes supporting others in their efforts to be the best "them". Hope i haven't been incoherent....
 
I'm kind of far less capable or 'advanced' than all of you, in that I don't really have the energy or strength or 'brains' to read what I should, understand what I should, likely provide for others what I should, or even have the faith or trust that I should.

Over many decades I've prayed (started) specifically for outcomes, then (changed that) that to specifically (like Alby mentioned) feeling "God-and-I" were working stuff out, and sort of 'worked on it'. Last few years though, it's more a vulnerability I cannot express, I no longer have as I've said the means (on my own), to know what to do, or even handle it (including 'me' or the ptsd). It's like having no skin. I just can't bear, really, even the thought of a punitive, or cruel, or abusive God. -I'm tired.

I've been told I'm an example of 'faith' but I'm not really at all.
The only thing I try to do is to pray that "Every thought, word, deed, or desire is God's not my own - that I hope that is so (and) I give Him 'permission' (in-so-far-as I believe we have Free Will but I'd rather He'd make it His)".
But I am still not very productive, don't see a purpose for me, and will likeyl not 'fit' in this world or any other. I too have heard the ".. you of all people (who pray), why isn't it better/ why are you sad?-" ie, I'm not 'fixed'.
But I don't think my heart will ever get quite 'fixed', but I guess that's just 'life'.
 
Junebug, see, this is why I think I am not very good at talking about this stuff- because I think TOO MUCH about it. And I'm not sure, at the end of the day, that the understanding part is all that helpful. So I am frankly dubious about you being "less advanced" in this respect than anyone else here. Because what you've said, about being so vulnerable, seems to me to be one of the major aims of spiritual practice and development. Pema Chodron (a buddhist monk who gives very, I think, helpful and funny talks) talks about getting in touch with the tender place in our hearts, and then living with it all the time, and getting to be friends with the discomfort and even pain that this brings and then again with the pleasure and sweetness that it also brings.

How much good does an angel who touches people's lives in subtle but sweet and important ways have to do to earn her keep?
 
Oh Dearest Eleanor, -I will have to ask YOU that :inlove: :)
(((((Hugs))))), You are such a Beautiful person-

Well- yes I must admit I relate (totally) to that 'in touch' description :rolleyes::(:eek::inlove:, lol.
But seriously- I do. -Thank you so much, xox

And no Eleanor- it's great to 'think'- I've just 'out thought' all that I know.
I think in my heart-of-hearts it boils down to trust, and love. Sincerity, etc.
I think God must really enjoy your 'questions' and Wonderful mind :)

I have heard, 'friends' are angels each with one wing, but together they can both fly. :)
> :inlove::inlove:<
 
Hi Junebug,

I understand you not feeling you have a purpose. I struggle feeling that way too. I don't feel like I am capable to do that much that really contributes. I don't feel that I have affected anyone in any relationship in any important way in my life. Now, maybe I did, but I just don't see it. When I try to meet new people, and they ask if I have children (no), do I work (no), I can see the question on their faces, "Then what do you do all day?"

Several years ago I found this poem by Stephen Crane called "In Heaven". I think Stephen understood how we must feel at least a little bit.

"In Heaven, some little blades of grass stood before God.
"What did you do?"
Then all save one of the little blades began eagerly to relate
The merits of their lives.
This one stayed a small way behind ashamed.
Presently God said:
"And what did you do?"
The little blade answered:
"Oh, my lord, memory is bitter to me
For if I did good deeds I know not of them."
Then God in all His splendor arose from His throne.
"Oh, best little blade of grass," He said."

If you have heard of it already, I apologize for repeating. Since first reading this thread yesterday, this poem has been on my mind. Whenever I get frustrated that I am not doing more, that I feel I am not good enough, I (sometimes) remember this poem. It comforts me. I so hope that it's true!
 
OH Daisygirl, that's so sweet.
Because yes, I do feel that way.
Hearing YOU say it, -it seems so not true, your value is so obvious, you shouldn't say that about yourself!
Look at what you just did now- to post that, to make me/ us feel better. And because you understand.
I love it, Thank you. :) :inlove:
(Hee , that WOULD be me, hee,-
I have to confess I was waiting for the next line, "OK blade, what did you do?" , lol-:rolleyes:
xox :) )
 
Hi Junebug,

Well, I thought the same thing about you! I read your posts, and I smile. It is obvious you have a kind spirit. I see your value because you are here, making an effort and contributing. :geek:

I had to laugh at your statement (I have to learn how to quote members!) about waiting for God to ask the one little blade "OK blade, what did you do?" only because I see myself that little blade too. Reading this poem was mind shattering for me. It seemed foreign to me to think that God would appreciate the least of His creation. Even though, the Bible says otherwise.

I like your 'one body' analogy. I would be okay being an eyelash too, as long as I am there. :D

I am glad you liked the poem and appreciate your note back!
 
I found this, I think it sums it up...

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