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Finally Able To Process My Trauma

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That sounds amazing, well done. I think it is a huge breakthrough when you even get a hint that this stuff in your head and body can ACTUALLY be healed. I always tended to hear of other stories and think, yeah, right, but this stuff in me is different, and I'll never get there. Lately we've been getting at it after all. Once you realise that there is a way without going mad or bad and that you can survive what your inner child never thought you could, you're off..... not an easy road but at least you have hope and confidence to see you through.

Well done and I hope it continues to do the biz for you.x
 
Hi , it's so amazing to hear this awesome development from you, SOL . Your thread is helpful. I wonder where can this therapy program be found wordwide , I mean dose this program implemented in any countries worldwide? Do they publish any books related with this therapy.
 
Sorry for the delayed response.

As far as I know, there are only two such programs of this type, both in the USA, one in West Virginia, the other in Georgia.

The program is run by Louis Tinnin and Linda Gantt. I spent a number of would be therapy hours just talking with Dr Tinnin about his research and book (then in the works, just published last month). LOL, I paid a LOT for those conversations! But, well worth it as he had incredible insight into trauma that was so different than anything else I'd heard before.

I'm off to buy the book. (Thank you, Amazon Prime.) So obviously I can't comment on it as of yet, but I'm hoping it is as fascinating (?) as my conversations with him.
 
Before I had ptsd, I went to several trainings with Lou Tennin and Linda Gantt. They are a married couple and the center was once much bigger. A few years ago, Lou had many health problems and they seemed to reduce staff and services. They had wonderful 3 day trainings and they both spoke at an international conference a few years back in New Orleans.

The did a lot of art therapy, which was part of working through the trauma response. I worked under an experienced therapist, interning is best way to describe. Im not sure about the results that I saw. Personally, I thought that it was a big business and big money maker. They took no insurances for clients that I would have referred and no medicaid or medicare. Completely self pay. I discovered that it was not well accepted by other professionals and insurance.

Please know, I am not bashing. I have much literature from a hundred hours of training with them, and yes, their training was very pricey as well. They seem to not be offering trainings anymore and uncertain why. I will check this out. I would be interested in reading his book. Did not know he recently published. Will be ordereing that as well.
 
Do you know how insurance works? The issue of insurance does NOT lie with Lou and Linda's program. It is an insurance company issue. No insurance company will pay for 35 hours a week of individual therapy. The maximum, I believe, is 3 hours. And even in a hospital setting, you will only get 3 hours a week with your counselor, the rest (bulk) of it is group therapy.

If you break it down, the rate is VERY reasonable, even at $4k a week, 30 hours of therapy, that breaks down to $133 an hour. Well within a reasonable rate. And when you factor in the loss of needing to open up each hour with a summary of your life since the previous session, and the loss of needing to wind down each hourly session, the amount of therapy per hour goes up when compared to standard therapy, and therefore the effective price goes down.

When I was there a little over a year ago, try were still training people. And their website has a training schedule. So yes, they are still training.

And as for not being accepted by other therapists? I think it's part of what's wrong with the field of psychiatry and mental health. All I know is that their program helped me when nobody else could. And yes, I've tried a lot of different things.

I was lucky to have someone pay for what ended up being a $10k treatment when all was said and done. I know not everyone is so lucky. But I don't see what they do as a money making scheme; not in the least. Not when I spent two solid weeks working with the team and know the dynamics of the insurance industry.
 
Hi Scared of Lonely! First congrats on completion of your program and knowing you made progress. Thank you for sharing the details of the program. I have a few questions about how you feel now. Only if you feel comfortable answering. No pressure. Do you still suffer symptoms and if so how often? Do you remember the old trauma now and if so how does it affect you? Do you suffer body symptoms now or have you ever? Thanks so much!

Tb
 
I know exactly how insurances work. Since Lou is a psychiatrist, (my recollection is that Linda is not a psychiatrist with a medical degree from a medical school), they do have the ability to use their talents in an in patient environment that insurances would accept.

I agree with you, no insurance will pay for more than 3 hours a week of out patient therapy and their program is an intensive all day program. At the end of the day, the client must go to a hotel. This is also something that I am curious about.

In a hospital setting, you may only get 3 individual hours of therapy, but the insurance pay enormous amounts to take your temp and bp on a psych ward, while doing nothing to help the patient get better. Since Lou is a psychiatrist, he would qualify under a hospital setting, making it more available for people. For it to be a hospital, certain criteria must be met. Charge $100 for meals a day, and $350 for the room, and recoup the cost of therapy. That is all I am saying about the treatment not being available for most. If it helps, $133 an hour is very reasonable.

If I did not think their services were valuable, I would not have gone back every year and gave several hundred dollars for trainings. in addition to staying in hotels. The results that I saw were not therapy done with Lou and Linda, (I never met any of their clients) it was therapy provided by someone they trained that I worked under. While I was in grad school, this therapist introduced me to this training, then invited me to work with him in all day intensive sessions. I spent hundreds of hours working with him. However, it turned out that he was very unethical, and soon I discovered that he planted false memories and kept clients returning for years.

At times, he would attempt to do this to me as well, making suggestions that I flinched and such. I spent hundreds of hours with this man-yep, we ended up in a 2 yr relationship, during which time, he drugged and raped me repeatedly. Every time I stayed at his house, I had hours of lost time during the night, followed by UTI infections, irregular bleeding, and then my gynecologist did a an endo-cervical biopsy because my cervix was so messed up upon exam. When I later got the balls to asked how it would differ from repeated rape-she said it wouldn't. At the same time of discovering the rape that I did not remember, I began having a stalker. Yep, it was my boyfriend therapist. Remains of dead animals in my yard, vandalism, letters addressed to me that were vulgar, left on my car, etc. He got caught. He put an ex girlfriend up to making calls to threaten my childrens lives, she was prosecuted.

All the while this is going on, he is offering to stay at my house so that I feel safe. Things unraveled and last I heard he was being accused of being a pedophile-by his own account. I was a rookie, he had 25 yrs experience. He was quite older as well. I was conned. This has nothing to do with the trauma center that you are talking about, it is not their fault. However, there is no oversight or regulations when insurance is not accepted-that is my only point and fear. The reality is, one sociopath trained under them and carried it into his own practice. I was not his only victim. He was having sexual relatioships with patients in his office. He always kept a smart attractive wife or girlfriend on his arm, so who would believe that he assaulted unattractive women that he did.

He took one of my relatives as a client. That client died last year from a drug overdose. This therapist instilled memories that were false, diagnosed him with ptsd and told him to smoke weed for it and use other illegal substances. This man was 38 yrs old and left two teenagers. This treatment was the death of him. He never recovered after this therapy.

Others in the community are aware and that is likely why many are skeptics. There is no oversight. Most private practioners take insurances. This man could not take insurance-they cut him off because of former lawsuits for abusing clients. This was prior to my knowing him evidently. He was resourceful and found training that would require cash pay, and bled money out of people while abusing them. Further, he broke confidentiality at every opportunity. I live one hour away from this Lou and Linda, and I bet if you asked, they would be familiar with this man. It is not their fault. I just think it would be better to provide it in a way that protects the public and allows for it to be more mainstreamed and available. Everyone is not ethical.

On a more positive note, I am glad to hear that it benefitted you and that you had the opportunity to do this therapy. I admit that I was very impressed with their model of trauma therapy and am very sincere about purchasing his book.

I am aslo first to criticize how insurances work and our current mental health system-they dont work for many.
 
Brat, now that I know you're a psych professional of some sort, I do not feel comfortable conversing with you on the forum, even though you also have PTSD. Call it my own boundary of not getting close to psych professionals outside of a professional setting, if you will. I hope you understand.
 
Do you still suffer symptoms and if so how often? Do you remember the old trauma now and if so how does it affect you? Do you suffer body symptoms now or have you ever? Thanks so much!

Tb

Hi TB!

Yes, I still have symptoms. I still struggle with emotional flashbacks mainly in the context of relationships. I still have a low stress threshold which exhausts me. However, the memories of the trauma were diffused. I don't have flashbacks or intrusive memories about the trauma anymore. I consider it "processed" and don't believe that talking about it anymore will do me any good. This therapy helped me move toward living in the present rather than in the past. I think this is/was worth its weight in gold.

I had two types of trauma. One single incident of sexual abuse and ongoing emotional abuse (at the hands of different people). I never repressed the sexual abuse memory. As for the emotional abuse, I don't remember all of it (too many memories, as I lived in the environment.) I didn't gain or recover any new memories. However, certain things did re-surface, in the sort of way that a train of thought will be brought back into conscious memory after you're reminded of something related. As in, these weren't repressed memories that I'd forgotten about since the trauma.

Yes, I have somatic symptoms, but they're not body flashbacks. Extreme stress goes to my stomach or I get sudden onset migraines. The stomach problems got much better. I have meds but take them infrequently. They resurfaced this weekend, due to a threat that hit too close for comfort. And actually, the sudden onset migraines started after I went to this program. I've had migraines my whole life, and managed them through diet modification. I'm now taking meds because its the only thing that helps the sudden onset ones. Even though the migraines really suck, I'd go through the program again in a heartbeat and I recommend it highly.

I hope this answers your questions!
 
Thank you for your reply Scaredandlonle y. I really very interested in the different therapies .Your answer was very detailed and heartfelt . Very kind of you. Best. wishes on your journey to healing! Tb
 
SOL - I absolutely understand where you are coming from. Finally being able to process the trauma that has caused my PTSD has allowed me to start getting some normality back into my life. I have made massive inroads into my recovery the past two weeks after undergoing CBT with my psych. It is not a nice process to go through but I have found it highly effective.

It is not until you have this illness that you understand the sheer happiness that you feel for others that also have PTSD when they make serious inroads to recovering.
 
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