Guns

[City Slicker]

@KwanYingirl - I absolutely love your dog! Thank goodness your pup was with you those times and lead you the other way.

I know many of my US friends who carry and have permits for concealed carry. They say it gives them a sense of peace and control - they also, as many have suggested, taken courses and continue to practise with it as much as they can.

 

[Anarchy]

Hi Kwan Yingirl,
I'm glad that you are feeling stronger again


I've been meaning to comment here for a while.

I live in Britain, but used to be a keen pistol shot until both major political parties here decided to include me in collective punisment...:meh:

It's still worth seeing if you can have a try with a pistol
I'd recommend one to one with someone who does a fair amount of shooting on ranges
and that they start you off with a heavy gun firing mild .22rf loads. I used to have a Ruger Mk1, threaded for a sound moderator, which would have been ideal, the weight soaked up the recoil (recoil and noise come as a surprise to many people)

good ear protection is essential.

if they can give you your first experiences when you are the only people at the range, or even better, out in the woods - so much the better
someone blasting away in the next booth at the range with something very loud, is not a good introduction.

familiarising yourself with safe gun handling*, how to load fire and clear (and clean!) the gun and developing a decent level of accuracy are all good skills, regardless of whether you are ever going to carry.

a .22rf that you can get your hands around comfortably, has a decent distance between the sights (the further it is between the front and back sights, the easier it is to aim precisely) and that is reasonably heavy, makes a good gun to learn on.
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* I find that it is helpful to work on the principal that there is no such thing as an "accident" with a gun - only negligence.

there are people who will introduce friends and acquaintances to shooting; this lady achieved her aim about five years ago, and introduced all of her female friends and family to shooting. From what I can make out from some of the photographs she's posted, she's absolutely tiny http://thebredafallacy.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[Go Hungry]

I am going to buy me some wasp spray today and use that instead of the gun I decided. It shoots out twent...

Don't do that. It is a felony to use wasp/hornet spray in a way it as not intended. Right there on the package.

It's straight up poison and can blind people. Granted, we don't much care about the assailant at the time, but the cops certainly will later on. Instead, go with some good old-fashioned FDA approved (can you believe it?) mace or tear gas. Works better and won't get you in the slammer.

 

[Anarchy]

It is a felony to use wasp/hornet spray in a way it as not intended. Right there on the package. ...FDA approved

I'd probably end up with my name on a nasty little list if I suggested another nest of venomous vermin to use such a spray on;)

Incidentally, a hot lead injection seems to have much worse consequences for the recipient if it happens in the state of California.

 

[void]

Well this morning was a shocker. Yesterday I worked til 11:00, left with my client and we saw a guy...

@KwanYingirl

Your safety means everything. Your gut is right...you are not safe.

??What about a temp. stress leave until you are trained??

This risk is NOW....and you are not ready right NOW.


Mirror work: most ppl fear being aggressive/harsh/hostile toward others and they hold back

so practice in front of a mirror

learn command and control language


Stress situations:

practice fast attack approaches....with unloaded gun....when someone rushes you having experience plinking an immobile target won't help you very much

practice drawing the weapon
" shouting demands

ppl say "It all happened so fast, I didn't have time to think" for a reason.


~ OR ~

is there just cause for you find a job in a safer area??

is this job worth risking your life??



May you be free for inner and outer harm.:hug:

 

[Anarchy]

Gorey stuff.

The "shoot if they get within 20 feet of you" which seems to get taught,

is based on the time it takes to close on someone and the time it takes to draw a gun and fire. basically an assailant who is 20 feet from you can be onto you before you can get a shot off.

what it ignores is that even if a shot to the "centre of mass" perforates the heart or a major artery at the top of the heart, the assailant can continue to be dangerous for between 40 second to 60 seconds after the impact.

I wrote "can" because it depends on the person - some people will fall down and cry if they've been hit anywhere, others won't.

knowing how to sidestep an incoming punch, kick or stab, (thai sabaki) is still a vital skill,

and to some extent a good hit in the pelvis and muscles attached to the pelvis might be more effective in putting an assailant on the ground than a heart shot.

When I was working in South Africa, and expected it to be a long term thing, I booked in to do concealed carry training. My stay in South Africa actually turned out to be a short term thing, due to changes in the currency exchange rate:(

instinctive "point shooting" has been taught to British troops going to WWi http://www.forgottenweapons.com/british-pistol-use-during-wwi/
and by Fairbairn (shoot to live) in WWii
and by (IMO wind bag) Rex Applegate in america

 

[KwanYingirl]

Well, I have come down from the massive fear reactions. Now there's a painter working outside and I notice I am constantly looking for where he is. It seems to me that they'd put more than one person on a crew to paint four big buildings in an office park. I am trying to get my outside chores done early before people get here and then not be seen. Things over at the rehab are very quiet. Someone must've read them the riot act.

 

[asadafagahajakal]

Yeah I can understand you not liking guns. Some people want to protect themselves with nothing, and some people think words can always protect them (sometimes it can but not always).

But yeah not every north American has guns because they like them, it's because sometimes there's a need. I'm sorry to hear what happened to you. It's a sick world out there. I hope a carry permit helps protect you against future threats. Also in lots of CCW courses, even use of force courses in canada (yes a few thousand canadians are legal pistol carriers) include lessons on disengaging an attacker as soon as possible, since carrying concealed isn't just about pulling out a pistol as soon as there's trouble. Keep your powder dry.