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Undiagnosed Have I Been Molested As A Child?

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Alicka

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I decided to write a post here, as it just came do me, that I might have been molested as a child and don't remember it.

I'm 22 years old and have a fairly normal live, and generally I'm not experiencing the symptoms that should suggest I was abused.

BUT there's still something that worries me. I'm into BDSM (me being the dominated side). I do like regular sex, intimacy and I do not need to do anything super kinky to have an orgasm, but I definitely prefer rougher sex and it makes it easier for me to get satisfied. I guess it shows the strongest when I'm watching porn - I tend to watch quite hardcore stuff (humiliation/punishment/domination etc.). I think it's worth pointing out that I would very often actually not want this things done to myself - but I do get off to them and I find it rare for other porn to be really arousing.

I started watching porn early, I think around the age of 13. It started by just seeing some erotica on the TV in the night and then I started "exploring" the Internet and I found more and more. Again, on the beginning it was totally regular porn, but at some point I came across BDSM and really liked it.

I do realise that just liking BDSM doesn't mean anything, especially that it's not dominating my live, but there's one other thing that makes me wonder whether it's all "normal".

I used to masturbate a lot when I was a child. I think it started in the kindergarten when I was about 4 or 5 and lasted till when I was about 10 (and then started again when I was 12 or 13 - I remember there were a few years of a break). Again, nothing to be worried about, since this is supposed to be normal.

I don't know how often I was masturbating, I think probably daily, maybe a few times a day sometimes? I remember once doing it in the kindergarten (it was that time of day when we were all napping after lunch) but I was told that I shouldn't and I don't recall doing it publicly ever again.

I don't think it was really triggered by anything, I just remember really liking it.

What concerns me is the fact that I recall having some sort of fantasies while masturbating and I read that it's not common (or not normal at all?) in kids. I don't remember much of them really, nor do I remember if I had them every time when I was masturbating (I think I didn't), I just remember they were somehow related to humiliation. Like I got some memory of me being naked and "looked at" or something, or maybe punished somehow - it's all really vague. I don't remember any touching or anything in this fantasies, I believe it was just the humiliation/punishment element, not really anything sexual.

I don't recall being humiliated or punished in any way by anyone really, I was never punished at home.

At this point I think it might be worth adding, that I got loving parents with whom I've always had good relations. I don't recall anything bad happening to me when I was a kid, I don't remember ever experiencing any problems with closeness with them, I never felt bad when being hugged by one of them etc. Generally I think there's nothing that would suggest anything bad. I don't remember having any bad feeling regarding anyone in the family/close environment.
I do have memories from when I was 3 or 4 or 5, not many of them, but I think it's normal? From when I was 3 I remember moving to a new flat, and then a few situations from kindergarten when I was 4 or 5 or so, I remember my grandma vaguely (she died when I was 3 or 4) and I guess I could find a few more memories. I think that means that I do not have the lack in memory that would suggest I might have been molested and tried to "block it out".

I remember, when I was older (I don't know how old I was, but I must have been like 8 or 9 or 10?) and I was in the internet cafe (my dad needed to do something, so I was just standing there and looking around) and I'm quite sure I saw a man watching some sort of porn then. I've got no idea WHY he would do that, it was a regular internet cafe in the shopping centre in the computer store, but I remember very clearly seeing a man penetrating a women. It doesn't seem like it was a regular porn, more like some 3d whatever or something. Hard to explain, but I'm quite certain it was some sort of simulation of sex, maybe. Anyway, I do remember that this was something I have never seen before, so at this age I didn't know how sex looked.
I remember having some fantasies related to it later on.

I also remember a situation with my girl friend of this time, when she said something about sex and how it looks or whatever, and I didn't know that you would put anything (a penis, a finger or whatever) to the vagina. So it seems I didn't really know more about sex by this time.

I don't recall ever thinking that there might be something wrong with me or that something might have happened, EXCEPT for the fact that I was wondering where the hell did this childhood fantasies came from.

As I said, I generally don't have intimacy problems, sex problems or anything. For what it's worth I've always had quite "loose" attitude to sex, I didn't care too much about my first time etc. (I mean - I didn't have the need for it to happen with the guy I loved or have been with long term relationship or whatever, it happened with the guy that I liked and found attractive though), but then it was never by any means extreme - I was never overly sexual, I haven't had any crazy amount of partners etc.

Again, worth noticing - I was probably just raised this way, my parents are not religious or anything and I was always taught to just not do anything under any pressure, to use contraception etc.

Oh, I just remembered - I believe I had some sort or "intimate" problem when I was little, not sure what it was, I remember my mum taking me to the doctor. I must have been like 4 or 5 at that time I guess. Could this be some sort of a trigger? Maybe I felt embarrassed somehow at the doctors and I just found masturbation a way to "relieve" myself and then it just kind of stuck together later on?

Also, I know that my family (meaning my parents + I) were quite open in terms of nakedness. They found it natural and up to the time when I was probably like 6 or something (essentially - up to the time when a kid starts being embarrassed/starts having the need of intimacy) they were often walking around house naked etc. Can't really think of a reason how that would harm me, but maybe it's worth mentioning.

I'm totally freaked out at the moment, thinking that I might have been molested or something, as I generally like my life, I'm happy, haven't ever noticed any problems that would be unusual or that would suggest that I experienced something bad - except for the fact that this childhood fantasies are something really worrying to me.\

I know that I was exposed to porn really early (and it was nothing more that an accident and curiosity really) and I always thought this might have been something that made my interest in BDSM stronger.

After writing this post I think that it all might just be the reason of some sort of unfortunate event, like seing something on TV and interpreting it the wrong way or something...
But I'm afraid I might be blocking something out?
It just seems this childhood fantasies are something really weird and off, and it worries me a lot...

I would highly appreciate any responses. I'm planning to go to the councillor, but it's not gonna happen in the next few months, as I'm incredibly busy at work and then I'm away, and finding a good councillor takes time too...

Thank you in advance
 
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I have to say, I don't think there's anything in your post that suggests abuse, but obviously I can only go on what you've posted and no-one here will be able to confirm this for you. If you're feeling confused or worried by it then I think talking it through with a counsellor is a good plan and I'd encourage you to follow that up :)

I'm curious as to whether you are experiencing PTSD symptoms as you have posted here? That might put things in a different light, but you don't seem to mention this causing you any problems really?
 
Hello digger, thank you very much for your reply.

I do not experience PTSD symptoms.
I do have slight anxiety disorders, but it's not by any means severe and it doesn't have a big impact on my life and is probably related to PMDD I have (again, very manageable). And generally I'm confident and feel good with myself and wouldn't really say there's something particularly wrong.

But I just can't help thinking about this childhood fantasies? I searched the Internet and couldn't find anything about that except for people saying that children do not any masturbation-related fantasies. It worries me that I had them, even though I believe they were not actually sexual (until I actually learned about sex)... Where would that come from? Humiliation/punishment related fantasies in 5year old, related to masturbation? It just seems wrong.

I was wondering one thing - I think I read somewhere that one can actually experience feeling aroused in situations when there's some strong tension etc. Maybe it was this kind of mechanism? I tried to cope with it by masturbating (though I believe my masturbation was first, and fantasies came up later on)? And when I found it arousing I just kept thinking about that or something? But seriously, with 5 year old?

I must say when I finished writing the first post I started to feel a bit better, as I realised it all doesn't really sound bad. But still...

And I, of course, understand that no-one here can give me diagnosis, but I really appreciate any input, especially that it seems unrealistic for me to be able to talk to counsellor in the next 2 or 3 months...
 
Hi:) I hope you're doing well!

I have to agree that those signs don't seem to point towards abuse- be very grateful for that!! Honestly masturbating at a young age is actually very normal and common and so are odd fanatasies (as many children don't know exactly what sex is so they try to figure out what turns them on to enjoy touching themselves- believe me, those fanatasies can get weird!). BDSM and all other kinky fanatasies are also soo normal!

Obviously I don't want to discredit you in any way if you were abused and if you're concerned about it then I would recommended talking to a therapist, counselor, or doctor.

Like @digger asked- do you have ptsd or are concerned that you could have it?
 
Just for some perspective and maybe giggles. I have a friend that I've known since I was little, we never ever talk about this but we used to masturbate together because we didn't know it was bad (we were 5-6).

She always talked about dying horses. That's what turned her on. Lol.

Knowing her still now, she has never been abused in any way..by humans or barnyard animals.

I also googled it and had a hard thing turning anything up. I think honestly that's not something often talked about and it would give pedophiles too much information, ya know?

But again, children have to find something to fantasize about as they don't yet know what exactly sex is. Also again, not trying to say that nothing happened to you (I'm just hoping that nothing did!).
 
I guess the question I would have to ask here is if you are happy in the BDSM lifestyle? If so, then I wouldn't over think it. Many times in that lifestyle trauma will come up if the power exchange is strong enough. If you have interactions that were quite intense I am guessing something would have already surfaced if there was trauma there, but certainly explore it more with a therapist. Get a kink friendly one though, otherwise they will try to 'fix' you whether you want to be or not :-).

Many BDSM'ers are traumatized but many people in the general public are as well. It really is about power exchange - sometimes it is necessary to let go of power (due to job stress, responsibilities etc) and other times it is important to feel in total control (sometimes due to a feelings of inadequacy in the past). I myself have felt the 'draw' of a softer form of BDSM but due to my trauma never did follow through with it.
 
If it's not bothering you (other than the thought of the possibility of it having happened), then my suggestion is to not dig..... Once you open Pandora's box, you will wish you never had, and in light of the fact that nothing is bothering you, there is no reason to go digging. The risks are FAR too great. (Of course, you'll need to take my word on it, but yeah, opening that box can send you to the worst of the worst in terms of mental places....it almost killed me, actually, it should have.)

So.....don't dig.
 
Yeah, I agree with the rest. There really aren't "signs" that someone's been abused, each of us presents in a different way. You can't really judge backwards by saying, oh I have this issue so I must have been abused.

I would focus on what makes you unhappy in the present day. It's important to work on issues and not worry about hunting up causes. You'll get clearer on connections as you do therapy, but what really matters is thriving in the here and now. If you're happy mostly and not breaking any laws, you're in good shape.
 
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Definitely..maybe, thanks for sharing that story!
Actually, I remember stumbling upon some post (some time ago and on different forum) of a girl freaked out that every time she watched some TV program of documentary film about animal cruelty, she would get aroused. The worse the cruelty, the more aroused she would get to the point when she just had to masturbate. She was totally panicking and was afraid that deep down she might be some cruel and sick person, while normally she would never killa fly, was vegetarian and generally super sensitive to any cruelty. I did some digging and it seemed that it would generally be just some sort of coping mechanism, to ease the tension and emotional pressure.
I guess maybe that's why your friend would find dying horses fantasy arousing? ;)
Anyway, it's good to know that kids do have all sorts of weird fantasies, it's just no one really talks about that.

shimmerz - I wouldn't even call it BDSM lifestyle, that was never something I thought I would be interested in. It's purely sex related. There was a moment when I was wondering whether this might become an issue one day, like maybe I'll stop enjoying regular sex or something, but I got over it and decided that I'll worry if I ever see a real problem. So far I can enjoy regular sex and haven't noticed my preferences having any negative affect on my live.
You're probably right that potential trauma would likely have already surfaced. I honestly don't think I ever had any sex related problems, it all seems generally healthy.

Solara, I think I got freaked out by the thought that it could have happened; and then that it could have happened by someone I'd never suspect of doing something like this... But I think I already excluded my closest family and people I'm actually in touch with, so I think you're right about not digging. Not to mention that I remember my mom after she did some digging into her past. She was depressed for months and months and I think we just got really lucky she was able to deal with all this crap after finding the right therapist. I think I always want to "solve" the problem, but then I should already know well that sometimes it's just better to let some things stay buried deep deep down, even though it may not seem like a real solution.

Leah123
, thanks, I think I just need to accept that I can't "fix" everything and it's just better to focus on reality and - as you mentioned - here and now, instead of trying to "solve" an issue and go to the roots, as this might just be the worst (and totally unnecessary) thing to do.

Thank you all so much for your help...
It seems silly to me now that I'd be so worried, as I guess it all seems like everything's good. Now I think it probably wasn't anything serious - I guess I might have seen something, or maybe I got embarrassed once or whatever and it all just grew in my head.
I tend to over think things a lot, for no real reason and worry too much... big imagination is not helping. ;)
Anyway, I really appreciate you helping me, your answers got me thinking and I probably learned quite a lot today.
I hope you all have found or will find a way to deal with whatever happened to you. My issues (PMDD, anxiety) proved to be relatively easy to manage and I wish it would be so easy for other people.
 
@Alicka Welcome to the forum!

From reading your post it seems that you have some concerns about what you are feeling and experiencing. It is never a bad idea to seek help from a mental health profession when things in life are disrupting a person and making the present difficult to handle.
 
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