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Help Psychologically Abusing - Living Out My Childhood - How To Stop?

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By the way I don't have a psychiatrist / I'm only have therapy.
But he is really angry and fed up... He says he listen but I don't feel that at all...
And don't know how to see the things... He says because I'm way to damaged I'm unable to change...
 
I think too, conversely during the course of your relationship there have obviously been many things that feel to your partner to be unsafe, unreliable, and I know for my own partner he lapsed into and was treated for depression the year before I even realized that I might have PTSD. One of the most damaging core issues in my own marriage was the communication style and gaps because of my own issues and he was both frightened, depressed, and discouraged though he was trying to be supportive of me in his way.

I over relied on my partner for a good number of years, and it took a serious toll on both of us, my own spouse left me three times in the process during and while we were diagnosed receiving treatment.

I had to stop projecting my thoughts and feelings onto my spouse they were not his responsibility they were my own and as I got assistance with that in treatment/therapy we worked on communication and joint therapy for the relationship to see if it could be saved.

Just some thoughts because some of the things you share about your interactions with your partner would definitely be psychologically damaging for somebody who loves and cares about you as well. The sad thing about reliance is that it can lead to resentment, retaliation or abandonment unless the underlying core issues are dealt with... for both people.

So far as your therapist, I'd definitely be candid and pushing for some treatment options and joint sessions because it is important to be able to hear what our partners say and it is beneficial to do it with a mediator or therapist.
 
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If he says I have to move out - doesn't that means he gave up on me?
Because for me is feel like that... Feel like he is abadonent me and he thinks I'm unable to change... On that I can't even ask him to come with me in a therapy... And my thoughts are if he gave up on me why shouldn't I give up on myself?
 
You must never give up on yourself because you deserve so much better, honestly :hug:
 
Iris, was it your therapist who said that?:wtf:

Sending you kind thoughts
No my partner said the things ... To I'm unable to change because I'm sick ... I feel myself so lost and betrayed... Never opened to any one like him and I just get the same - "go because I'm fed up... You don't love me, because you treat me bad"... The fault is mine... And feels lost everything - I didn't really have any support from any other person and even with him - he asked me to not to talk about the abuse related topics or the therapy...
 
From your post, it sounds like he's trying to rescue you, which could be his issues coming in to play, my x wife use to do me the same way as your treating your man, you might come to realize you are not good for your husband and your husband is not good for you, keep your recovery family close, he's probably exhausted from this situation, and constantly dealing with the absence of intimacy or support. How have you been supportive of him? Concerning trust, like me I don't believe you ever had a environment to develop trust, it's something foreign to you, you have no reference or frame of mind for trust, and dysfunctional abusive relationships are the only one's your mind are familiar with, so you naturally gravitate towards recreating what's familiar, rather than unlearning and re-learning new interactive skills and behaviors with other's I'm surprised he's not left already, he has alot more patients than I have. It's not that he's giving up on you, it's just his life, and there's other things he desires to experience about life besides constantly dealing with your issues and personal problems, that he can't fix, is not responsible to fix nor desires to fix, and actually him leaving might be the best thing for your life.

From your post, I feel like your giving to much persona identity to this one relationship, so if the relationship vanishes, so does your identity, big mistake to give yourself identity with any one relationship, you've become invisible through the time you've been in this relationship, you've probably subconsciously surrendered alot of your personal powers over to this relationship, that in the end, will end. Perhaps you'll look back someday in time, and ask yourself, why did I put myself in such a warped and twisted situation? Why wasn't I strong enough to stand up for myself and demand the best out of life. Write down a fear inventory for yourself, your scared of abandonment, but just imagine your life as a book, each day, is a blank page, it's up to you, to write the book, and some chapters of your life have to end, but now there's a new chapter, make it a interesting one. It sounds like you and him are not really good for each other, maybe some space and time in the past you were, but your going one direction and he's going another, which is ok, it doesn't mean he's abandoning you, it means, it's ending, and something new is beginning, the fear of the unknown, fear of abandonment, fear of loss, is what your left with dealing with. It's like your life has become consumed with dealing with this one relationship on a constant bases, besides that, what else is going on in your life? There's 7 billion people living on this planet, surely your not surrending all your power over to one of those humans.

David
 
David
Are you a sufferer or a supporter?

Add 1 your post quite hurt me...

Add2 additional information - at beginning of our relationship he asked me to cut down all of my friends ... Which I did .. So except that forum and my job(which is abusive and stressful) I don't have any other interaction.
The only talk what I have is with my therapist once a week / which I find it pathetic.

If your thesis is good than what should I do - okay leave .. Got it I'm bad. But how you can develop these senses? And does that mean neither that environment was good for me to learn trust? I gave him more trust than ever I would give to anyone.
By the way I
Running the full household he never cleaned anything in the flat - most of the time I'm cooking and all sort of these things. My time is consumed up with my work and house work and therapy.

A lots of time he goes out and sometimes it's happened he didn't even come back, because he was fancy that way.

And I thought I can count on him - but for example last Xmas he wasn't even here with me he gone away - New Year's Eve neither to visit his family which he mentioned to me to written on the Xmas presents otherwise I wouldn't know it.is that a normal reaction?


He asked me to not to talk anything about my therapy or anything which is related to it... I really don't talk about it, but he every each time gets angry when I'm reading a book about Cptsd, which I'm not finding at all fair- because it's made me feel shamed to I have to read it ... Or feeling guilty because I'm reading it.

He is most of the time not around - and he talks with me when ever is suits to him - between 3 years - he only managed to go on holiday once.

He has two kids from two different women - every each time when they are here he don't have to do anything - he can spend pure time with them- everything is done around them - like I'm maid - even when I worked 11.5 hours (I don't have break) / I don't get any good words on that - except if I don't do something is mentioned.

And a lots of time he is sending me mixed signals and speeches - even in 1 sentences he can tell me it's done and after when I close down(I'm pretty packer in that- nothing abusive, but if it's ended I'm not sharing things with, I don't see there is anything really why shall I be opened)than he mocking me to why I'm giving up...
Or he slagging me of and critise - any thoughts what I say discredits it; instead of we talk it threw and explain me to my thoughts are f*cked ip, because ...blabla... I know my thoughts are incorrect I'm asking from him guidance and he tells me instead what I should do and how... That's not makes me help to develope is makes me
Lazy in head to correct my head, which I told him and ignored or possibly I didn't say it right.What ever is the issue.if I say my opinion he is immediately attacks it - if I say any negative critics towards him, than that's an attack, but the other way around not.

A lots of times there were financial problems when without question I sorted out with my best capability - the last time was gone 500£ savings of mine. Which these financial hiccups made me don't have courage to spend my money on myself.oh and the food and household items 90-95% bought by me.im facilitating everything around him... But possibly that's not enough to spend all and most of my free time on things what he can a bit at least help me.when I mentioned that to him - his answer was that's a superficial problem of mine. Between 3 years maybe he washed the dishes 3-5 times - and that's true... :/ I found and see myself stupid because I'm spending so much times on these things and counts for f all... But if someone else mentioned to him his messiness than that's credited.
Are you saying that's counts nothing? Is not support?
And obviously I take his anger when he meets with his children's mothers, they are a bit difficult ... And most of the time he offload on me his fusrtation ... Or listening what kind of work problem has... Or which ever he wants to talk... We rarely talk about things which interest me... Honestly I don't remember when he talked about something what is my interest. :/
But possibly I'm total stupid, because I'm mentally ill...

Sorry I got a bit pissed of ... I think that's why I'm not vocalising it.
 
I'm definitely not out to hurt you, I'd like to support you and see you happy, joyous and free, sounds like your mind f*cking yourself to keep this situation alive, between you and him, and that your definitely getting the short end of the stick and being used and abused by this guy, it doesn't sound like you have alot of time for yourself, and your carrying this guy or enabling him in a lot of suttle ways, I'm sure whatever is going on your doing your best and just probably feel burnt out and tired all around. I think you need to rediscover yourself, and what really matters to you. If I pissed you off, maybe I just touched a sore spot, but you've probably been pissed off for a long time, but just swallowing it and sticking to it. Sounds like your mothering this guy, more than having a partner, we all have our problems me included, the fear of abandonment and rejection are very powerful in my life.

What is it, you deeply and truly want out of this situation? I know you want to be loved and accepted but it appears your getting everything but that! And you sound isolated in this relationship, cutting ties with all your friend socially is unhealthy decision, you need a balance of friends, and your partner, not just relationship with your partner and abandon your social life, it helps you keep a good perspective on life. Make a new life for yourself, new friends, new goals, new ambitions, find your passion in life, your love, your hearts desire. It sounds like he's not really interested in your recovery or therapy, maybe you should begin networking with like minded people who also have similar life challenges in their life as you, bond and connect with them, instead of playing house maid all the time. You really sound stuck in a rut, hope you can find the inner courage to pull yourself up out and out of it. If something I say is useful to you, keep it use it, but if not, just ignore it. No big deal.

With love, David
 
What David said above except that to me it's a more mutual thing, both of you in the relationship clearly think/feel/perceive that you are getting the short end of the stick. My brain seized on the knife incident and the bit you shared way above, "He says I'm dangerous to him (because of the grabbing knife and try to cut myself) and I can kill him... By accident." Also your partner communicating that he's been feeling abused.

That being said, however... if joint treatment or mediation or counseling is not an option (it wasn't in my first marriage and like you share, "I" was the sick one and he had (though very wrong cuz he was my second and worst abuser) "NO issues"... we divorced and I left. My life only got better after that but it was one hell of a hard way to learn what I was bringing into a partnership AND that I was ill equipped to actually pick a suitable partner for mutual love, respect, companionship and trust.

I particularly like what David shared when he said, "you might come to realize you are not good for your husband and your husband is not good for you, keep your recovery family close, he's probably exhausted from this situation, and constantly dealing with the absence of intimacy or support. How have you been supportive of him? Concerning trust, like me I don't believe you ever had a environment to develop trust, it's something foreign to you, you have no reference or frame of mind for trust, and dysfunctional abusive relationships are the only one's your mind are familiar with, so you naturally gravitate towards recreating what's familiar" ... in my own case, that was 100 percent absolutely true for me.

No one here intends to hurt you... this is a mutual aid forum... though doubtless there will be thoughts and posts on any topic or thread because this is a spectrum community that may not be easy to read. There is no motive for anyone on the forum to do that to you. Honest.

I hope you receive my post in the spirit with which it was given.
 
Iris? Can you pause and take a look at your thread title and bring it back around to your own realization about the state of the relationship and your part in it? "Help Psychologically Abusing - Living Out My Childhood...". Was that what HE said, or is that what YOU say and think/believe? Need some clarification. You do say up thread, "(His words, but I think it's true)". It doesn't sound to me like you think it's true.
 
Sorry I got carried a way... Thanks to point me out and sorry to get upset...Hmmmm... Sorry I think my job quite f'ing up me a lot ... Only slept 5 hours in the last two days - I'm an assistant manager in a patisserie and my manager and aerial manager hmmmm no comment on that - with that my partner agree with, when he asks about my job or they done something which is unfair, immoral or worst gaslight, abuse he becomes really angry... And he is angry to me because I'm just there to taking it without I do anything about it and he is disgusted by them behaviour ...
No you are right in ways ... I think the main problem we both doing horrible things to each other... I think I have a serious problem to express my thoughts and I'm becoming paranoid when he is ignoring me - I more like think I'm making it up that... The problem both of our side is true..not my paranoid part . And I think I need to change my job as soon as possible...
A lots of thing is confusing me and my job is killing me and I'm still not looking for a new one - and my opinion to why not because no work place would hire somebody who has psychological sickness who needs to go on therapy...

And when we have time to each other we are really good but when he is busy and my job is hmmm than I flip... And don't understand why ....

The one thing what I didn't figure it out is which he told me "I'm becoming your trigger" - I have no clue why or how I'm doing that... Neither sure what does that mean... What's that means??? He is becoming my trigger? And why is happening?

I think I'm not all together and I do really shitty things because I'm suppress a lots of thing... But I neither know how not to... And when I would like to say something I'm scared to say it...

The knife thing is I lose my mind ... And explode - but I'm 100% sure if he wouldn't come after me to stop me to hurt myself - and he give me on that time space even if the knife is in my hand I can stop... But he can't do that because he is worry I hurt myself seriously, and me on the time feel myself suffocated.

By the way your post helped me or more like us... I asked him to I would like to work on a few topics on my own and I would like to have a talk with him around and about it, because the main thing, problem I'm not talking my thoughts towards him and after a while starting assuming things.which makes the hell mess.

What can I do or what kind of practice should I do to realise more the moment reality? Or how can I realise when I'm pushing down my feelings?

The trust in him is a weird chaos with me - he done a few things which I don't know where to put - he lied to me he isn't talking and meeting with his exgirlfriends (that was his reason why I shall not...he told me he don't have any connections with them)and I saw a flirting text message to a lady who I never heard about... One of his ex texted him after midnight ... At my previous relationship I never had been jealous or I never had that so low self esteem ...

In other hand I fully trust him and if I would need to chose a guidance I would trust in him fully.otherwise I never would chose to live together with him.

What's my brain issue here exactly ? Why I'm making conspiracy? Is it because I'm attacking myself to not to trust him because I'm scared?
 
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