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Relationship How Do I Cope With Ptsd Wife?

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Hi Charlie,

You have just summed up my life to a tee! Are you sure you're not me? Maybe I have dual personality disorder and didn't know it. Lol.

Do you find your wife throws a wobbler and then says she is going to leave too?

I'm in that unfortunate situation at the moment. It hurts a lot, but hopefully she will change her mind again. I always worry that eventually she will carry out that threat.
 
I think when it crosses over into numbness, or real perception of it being damaging to another to stay, is when it's worst (most likely and most likely to be permanent).

I feel bad for supporters. :(
 
Oh Dear Mitch, I'm sorry, that wasn't a very thoughtful or well-spoken post for me to make. :(

(Speaking for myself) it IS very wrong to leave anyone feeling like you are going to run away at any moment. It's not 'intentional', and hopefully not said as a threat or manipulation, but nonetheless so lousy to live around, let alone for a poor spouse!

I just mean it isn't intentional, and it's up to the 'sufferer' to try to 'not flee'- deal with the ptsd, and get themselves together.

I just mean, that's when it's less of a ~near-daily (ugh :( issue, ie the 'roller-coaster'), and more of a permanent 'decision' (or temptation) I've found that's what accompanies it (numbness or fear of burdening or harming others, the scale is tipped).

It must be very hard for a 'supporter' to be able to regain trust, also. :(

But Mitch, even SI, it can be overcome. Please don't worry. Take it a day at a time, and take care of yourself.

And also, was going to say, I shouldn't have posted like that because it infers (possibly, or potentially, though not intended, either) that you should 'censor' what you say (or feel)- please don't!

Best of luck to you both, you must be so very kind.
 
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Thanks for the edit Amethist. I hadn't noticed I'd made a blunder. Innocent, I didn't take your post in any way other than well-meaning advice, for which I thank you. It feels good to be understood. It has been a bit of a tricky time for me lately, so just to have anyone answer my post at all is a comfort.;)
 
Dear Mitch- hee- just realized 'innocent' is the mood, though I should more aptly put 'clueless" for myself. :rolleyes: :)

I meant also to say, no SI is no small accomplishment, either! :tup:
 
Doh! Innocent is the mood. How I didn't notice that I'll never know. Sorry Junebug, I didn't mean to get your name wrong. I think I'm a bit of a bimbo sometimes.
 
No Mitch, just plenty of other stuff to think about.

I don't know how supporters do it, or manage to hold on as long as they do, sometimes.
If it's any consolation I can say for myself I'm sick of ptsd myself, let alone others being sick of it. :(
 
I'm so glad that I found not only this website, but this discussion specifically. Forgive me if there are any anomalies in my comment, this is the first time I've joined a forum.

Mitch, like you commented to Charlie, I feel like you are talking right through me!

My wife and I have had a rocky two years of marriage to say the least. Needless to say, our first year we struggled primarily because of me. I was dishonest, critical, verbally abusive, etc. It all came to an explosive head this last August and we've been in real recovery mode every since.

She had a very abusive childhood, primarily from her father, which I just aggravated with my bahavior, and now she seems to have reached her limit. We're on a rollercoaster. We'll have a great couple of weeks that will start becoming slowly filled with aggitation, short fuses, that eventually lead into some kind of violent explosion, like you said, usually caused by something seemingly miniscule (like my eye being caught at night by a tv being on in a neighbors house as we stroll by. "Why were you looking into their house? You're just trying to be gross!), she screams, threatens divorce, becomes violent, we spend a night apart, and then she calms down and we start the cycle all over.

Anything can set her off. Recently we had some friends get pregnant and the wife wasn't ready and feels the husband got her pregnant on purpose, and she's mad about it. The husband and I talked and he feels differently. When my wife was mad at him for "violating his wife", and I gave a different perspective, she started telling me that I since I had such a masogenistic perspective and had no instinct to protect this victimized wife, I was not safe to be around my soon to be born daughter and she feared i would also not protect her!

I feel like she's got our relationship on an ejector seat and she's always holding the lever. It could end at any minute and she knows she got all that power. I feel like I'm doing everything I can to keep it alive but I never know when she'll blow up again and vow to end it all. Like you said above:

"It hurts a lot, but hopefully she will change her mind again. I always worry she will carry out that threat."

Bless you Mitch. You are a breath of fresh air as I live in this merry-go-round of a marriage. I love my wife deeply. I am grieved over how I've treated her in this marriage and am pursuing counsel and accountability myself. But like it sounds like you are afraid of, its like my wife has our relationship around the neck, and any time she feels threatened or has a trigger, she starts squeezing it. I do anything I can to keep it from dying.

I will pray for you, brother.
 
OK 3rd time to try this... you wouldn't have thought it was so difficult! But I hope you can forgive me..

--
I hear you all. Though I have nothing other than the standard answers. Breath. Consistent love. Attempt to reassure.

-- My Summary

My wife - PTSD from childhood traumas.
Me - Depressive tenancies, including several long bouts.
Yes we are the double jeopardy family.

We have been together 20 years, with 2 wonderful children.

-- Why I'm here..

Well things are very rough in my house at the moment. And I came for some support.

I worked out my wife had PTSD about 5 years ago after watching a veterans documentary on the subject. I had a light-bulb moment and did all the reading I could. This knowledge has helped me to climb out of my depression. But she has refused to talk to any professional.

My wife is worse than I have ever seen her, but is still refusing professional help. And I am the cause of all that is wrong in the world.

For most of our life she has been... highly strung. Just a little jumpy and liking things consistent and LOTS of displays of love and her being the center of my universe. She the pushing away my friends and our families. Refused to go to any of my work things etc.

But a combination of events seems to have conspired to have here deteriorate.
- She had some stress related health issues and the doctor perused them till - after a referral - she was "diagnosed".
- Her worsening has forced me to take more time for myself. (as much as 30 min out of the day). I do not want to slip back into depression. At my worst I hardly manage to care for my self.. let alone her.
- I have taken a new job which will cut 2 hours off my commute time - thus allowing me to do more around home.

We are now 2 months into this "episode", and she still seems to be deteriorating and starting to show some violence - Slamming doors, breaking things, and screaming.
She is becoming more reclusive and more verbally abusive.

So far it is all directed at me, but I am worried enough for the kids that I have ditch bags packed and stanched and they know the drill.

I know that many have walked this line before, and got back to a better place and that gives me hope.
But I am close to the edge of my strength to fight. I know I said in "sickness and health" and I meant it but I can't kill myself doing it.

--
To the families... Work for better days.
To the suffers.. We want you as well as you can be. We know what you are and still love you.
 
"After a few days or weeks she calms down, apologises and goes back to being her normal good self. She stops shouting at me, drops the snide comments and allows me to touch her again. We get on well for a few weeks until I start to notice the fear/tension building inside her again. Eventually she blows up over what is usually an insignificant matter (like me forgetting to take my mobile phone with me when I go to the grocery store) and the whole cycle starts again."

I hate to say it, but your description of your wife reminded me of what my husband puts up with in our marriage. I am a diagnosed severe PTSD sufferer and military trauma survivor and I suffer from nightmares, black-out rage, blow-up anger, fear, paranoia, hyper-valiance and all the works. The cycle you narrated above, the fear/tension building, the sexual aloofness, the rage and emotional outbursts followed by a week or a few days of calm, usually precipitated by a build up or "boiling over" of the anger are exactly what I suffer through on a week-to-week, month-by-month basis. My poor husband is just as kind, patient and gentle as you are and he watches -and endures- my PTSD cycles the way a farmer dreads a hail crop to his farm.

Believe it or not, PTSD is very curable, though it may take years of therapy and education for your wife to recover and for your marriage to function more smoothly. Getting therapy from a proffesional that specalizes in PTSD, particuarly in the trauma-related area in which your wife suffers, is the first that you need to do. The second is to get a marriage counselor (not her therapist) and/or find a support group for yourself. Reading up about PTSD, the affects, the cycles, symptoms and causes will also be helpful. Some of the things my husband did to help himself cope with my PTSD are listed below. Here are some must-do's if you are suffering to understand why your wife is acting out...

1) Know Her Demon. What caused your wife to have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? People aren't born with PTSD. They experience a horrific or unnatural event that shocked their bodies, mind and soul. They are in a constant state of trying to cope with an un resolved past. Likely your wife is a survivor of sexually-related trauma. Learn more about her trauma, if she was abused, by whom, when and under what circumstances. The more knowledge you have about your wife's PTSD and her past the easier it will be to understand what is going on in her head and either remove triggers or anticipate blow-ups.

2) Safe-Talking. If you can make it through step one and get your wife to confide her past and PTSD cause with you, congrats, you've achieved something most spouses of PTSD sufferers struggle to accomplish. Most likely your wife can barely articulate her painful-past to herself and feels shame, guilt, helplessness and un resolved anger. The more you can get her to dialouge about the trauma in a normal setting, before or after the "blow ups" the better. PTSD survivors need to retell their story over and over to a kind and compassionate audience or loved-one. This helps them to re-associate their memories, to recognize that they are not at fault for the trauma, to regain dignity and helps them to overcome shame. Don't be surprised if once you get her to recount the past she will start "remembering" things she forgot and telling you about it. Memory loss is very common with PTSD survivors and probably one of the main reasons they blow up. The more she can remember and talk, the easier it will be for her to control her panic attacks, her rages, her mood swings etc.

3) Identify the Cycle and Cyclic Triggers. Since I am often unaware of my thoughts or dissociated from my feelings due to stress and hyper-vigilance, I cannot identify what 'sets' me off. My husband, however, has been able to observe what "triggers" my outbursts. In my case, a man staring at me the wrong way, an unexpected knock on the door, fireworks etc all "set" me off and cause me to panic, break-down or explode. I imagine the same goes for your wife. While she is carrying on with her day, whether it is good or bad, her unconscious mind is processing her environment around her in an attempt to identify danger signs. These danger signs are associated with her past trauma eg(sexual, psycho-emotional, combat, trauma related). Try to identify what her blow-ups are linked to. Is it related to a messy house? Nightmares? Her mother's phone calls? Any one thing or event can be the "trigger" point of her emotional outbursts if it precipitates a painful memory or is any way linked to a pattern of past trauma.

4) Finding her Calm Point. When your wife "revs-up" for one of her PTSD blow-ups, whether it is a rage-out or an emotional spill, be prepared to listen, soothe and comfort. Raging PTSD sufferers are experiencing intense emotions that they are disconnected from or cannot "feel" or emote due to being dissociated or feeling unsafe or unable to express them. Your wife's rage is really a mask for her hurt, fear and insecurities, however in most cases of PTSD sufferers, there is usually a calm point which will make her "reconnect" with her emotions and cause her to cry, emote or break from her anger. This "calm point" can be a number of things, from hugging, massage, encouragement, cuddling with a loved one/pet animal etc. For me, my calming point is when my husband takes me in his arms and rocks me back and forth and strokes my head. I am usually so angry and confused I get a migraine. Once he begins to physically touch me and stroke my head, I go limp and cry as I begin to feel safe and emote. Creating a safe-spot for emoting will help your wife to feel free to cry/emote rather than rage. For me, it is the bed. No matter what happens I know that the bed is the "hate free zone" in our house. No words of criticism or anger are spoken while someone is on the bed. I simply go there, pull the covers over my head and begin to cry. This is a signal to my husband and everyone else that I need time-out. Provide your wife with a similar calm-point and safe-space because likely her rage is a mask for the grief, hurt and pain she cannot allow herself to feel in the moment.

5) Boundaries. This is probably the most important thing you can do for yourself and the children should you have them. Establish boundaries, both emotional and verbal. If your wife is using you as a punching bag you not only need serious therapy as a couple, you need to establish firm boundaries. Talk to her while she is NOT in one of her PTSD rages. She needs to be calm and otherwise stable when you approach her with your list of boundaries. The number one boundary needs to be personal respect. Let her know that any anger she directs at you, the criticism, blame and rage is inappropriate and hurtful. Put your foot down. Make a consequence attached to the boundary and enforce it. Eg. You are going to a concert and the traffic makes you late, your wife rages "it's all your fault, you should have planned this better." (Previously you would have warned your wife of a boundary/consequence "if you blame me for another thing out of my control or rage at me again, no matter what we are doing I am going to leave for 30 minutes. Only when you are calm will I engage with you about this again.") Remind her of your boundary and consequence and simply enforce it. Only when she realizes you are serious will she begin to attempt to control or redirect her rage in an attempt to avoid the consequence. Too often PTSD sufferers are catered to because people feel sorry or guilt ed by their pain and anger. The best thing you can do for your wife is force her to deal with her PTSD symptoms by protecting yourself. If she really cares for you she will do what it takes to protect you from her PTSD anger-related behavior.

There are so many resources to help you. Wish I could just tell you that as a wife with a husband like you, recovery is possible. You can get through this and enjoy a happy marriage. It gets better with help. Therapy and Chakrah, weed and PTSD service dogs are helpful tools that can aide you. Wish you the best
 
"She had a very abusive childhood, primarily from her father, which I just aggravated with my bahavior, and now she seems to have reached her limit ...Anything can set her off. Recently we had some friends get pregnant and the wife wasn't ready and feels the husband got her pregnant on purpose, and she's mad about it. The husband and I talked and he feels differently. When my wife was mad at him for "violating his wife", and I gave a different perspective, she started telling me that I since I had such a misogynistic perspective and had no instinct to protect this victimized wife, I was not safe to be around my soon to be born daughter and she feared i would also not protect her!"

Your wife's comments about her friend's pregnancy and "violation" sound similar to my own protests at my sister-in-law's pregnancy several years ago. When I heard my sister-in-law suffered through a horrendous labor my reaction was total anger. I hated her husband, I hated her, I hated her baby. Whenever my husband and I were alone I would just rage about how her husband violated her body and the baby violated her life. I was so angry I couldn't think. After I started going to therapy, however, I realized not only was my perspective off, but my thoughts were the product of my past. I had been raped and impregnated from rape and the violation of having been sexually abused and carrying my abuser's baby tormented me so much that when I saw another woman suffer from pregnancy (albiet one she desired), it reminded me of my past and set me off.

In other wards your wife and I relived our painful trauma or traumatized perceptions when we saw a similar scenario that reminded us of our own abuse.

Perhaps your wife was never abused similarly, but it is more than likely that the reason she sees your friend's pregnancy as a violation is because she sees sex or intimacy or parenthood as a violation. You mentioned her father was abusive. Even if he wasn't physically abusive, the fact is that she associates parenthood, progeny and families for abusiveness and violation. The fact that she thinks you will abuse or not protect your baby daughter is only further proof that she is living with hyper-vigilance due to past trauma.

Get help now and get it fast. She needs therapy, you need support. If she refuses to go to therapy then you go, by yourself and describe your wife to a therapist to get answers. You need to get help and get educated about your wife's PTSD because it will slowly destroy your marriage and poison your children's happiness and well-being. My mother never got treatment for her sexual-abuse-related PTSD and it had a huge impact on my childhood which lasted into adulthood. Daughters who grow up with untreated mothers of PTSD suffer greatly and often relive the mother's trauma in adulthood. Get help.
 
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