• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

Relationship How To Know When It's Time To Give Up On Us?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Finleyac

New Here
We've been together 9.5 years, through 1.5 deployments and 4 years since he's been out, but I just don't know how much more I've got in me. I've been reading through many posts on here, trying to search for answers, even though I know answers can only be found within myself.

My husband continues to get worse. I think going to school triggers him in a bad way, but he continues to insist on continuing with this path. We live along side each other, but is this a relationship? I dump everything I have into trying to help him, trying to shelter him from things going wrong, but my reach is not far enough. When things go wrong it's always "my fault." My attempts at trying to help make him angrier.

He has been in therapy at the Vet Center for years, but I only see him getting worse, not better. I realize that talking to someone once a week without truly committing to doing work within himself isn't going to move him forward. He prefers to numb himself with smoking pot all day everyday, and has recently added liquor in the evenings. His therapist recommended an in-patient PTSD program because even he recognizes he's not getting anywhere, but my husband would have to give up the weed, and I don't think that he will ever be willing to do such a thing.

I feel I've reached a breaking point as the episodes get more frequent, but to give up after so long seems impossible. I've had a headache continuously now for a year and a half, and there are doctors of the opinion that the stress is the root. I can't count on any support from him, though. I just traveled out of state to see a specialist and he never even asked me how it went. In his mind I just need to smoke weed all day too and I'll be cured.

The therapist at the vet center who we saw together a couple times felt that she couldn't truly help us unless he wanted to help himself. She asked me what I was getting out of the relationship, but I couldn't come up with an answer except that I love him.

I'm trying to figure out what I truly want here. I left for the weekend to go camping with some friends, and he was mad when I told him. He said if he had known leaving was an option he would have done it a long time ago. He had barely spoken to me for the week prior. I came home with resolve that if he wouldn't commit to getting real help I was going to have to go, but I came home and he's in a good mood and I lost that resolve. We spent the evening in the same house with bits of small chat sprinkled throughout the evening, avoiding any serious conversation.

Every time I think about the logistics of leaving and what to do with this house that neither of us can afford on our own, but isn't in any shape to be sold in our current downtrodden market I feel trapped. I haven't talked to my parents and friends yet cuz they've heard this all before from me. I told my dad last summer I needed help to move back home and then my husband changed his mind, turned into a blubbering ball of tears and said he needed me. We're tethered in this endless cycle, but I can't pull him out. I realize he has to want to pull himself out, and I can only decide if it's time to pull myself out on my own, but I don't know how.
 
I realize he has to want to pull himself out, and I can only decide if it's time to pull myself out on my own, but I don't know how.
It's a tough journey working through this reality and I'm sorry you're facing such a struggle. I think the key is somewhere in
trying to figure out what I truly want here
as first and foremost it is important to look after yourself. Good luck.
 
@Finleyac

I want to acknowledge that you are suffering tremendously:(...not just him.

Caregiver stress can lead to burnout....burnout can damage your health long term.

You ARE burned-out....no doubt about it.

I have been burned out also....recovery is VERY difficult.

I think you know that you MUST go....for your own health-sake.

Some care-givers seem to need 'permission' to stop....to leave....to heal....to care for themselves.

@Finleyac ...it IS okay for you to STOP.:hug:

You HAVE done all you can.

You can't fix him.

You are lovely for trying SOOO hard to help him.......but now you need to save yourself.:hug:
 
My husband did the in patient treatment at the VA and left after 34 days. He did really well while he was in there but then his witch of a mother got in his head so he left. It sucks. Hugs if u want them.....
 
We've been together 9.5 years, through 1.5 deployments and 4 years since he's been out, but I just don...


Such a hard thing to consider. Are you getting any therapy for yourself? Do you belong to any local supporter groups? I don't know if having them would help you decide what you want to do or not. I'm at 6.5 years right now, and I even ask myself this same question once in a while....and my situation isn't as rough as yours.

Mine keeps a steady job and doesn't do any drugs at all. He was drinking pretty heavily, but I asked him to stop that too....but now he's more of a "dry drunk". He was really mad at me for asking him, but he was getting mean when he was drinking.

For the time being, I've decided to stick it out a bit (for the kids...and myself to be honest). I can say too, when he isn't "cycling" he's actually really good to me, so I try to keep those time in mind. But, I'm definitely changing the way I do things in our relationship. I've been getting some help from my T and from the veteran's outreach in my local area.

Neither one would "judge" me if I did decide to leave though. They respect it is my decision too. As for you too. Whatever you decide is best for you, the people here will be supportive too. Everyone, both sides, realize how hard this can be to live with ESPECIALLY when the "sufferer" refuses to get help for themselves. I hope you can find some peace, either way you decide.
 
I thought maybe I should just add on to here instead of starting a new post, as it has built in backstory. I reread my original post and am quite surprised, it sounds so eloquent! (LOL)

Things continue to get worse... We went to a BBQ at my best friend's house two weeks ago he got in a very heated discussion with her roommate and eventually got violent with her (grabbing her and pulling her into the counter). He had this crazed look in his eyes; I didn't even recognize him.

Two days later he wanted to take his drone out flying to an area out in the woods. When the main trail was too mudded out to drive down and not get stuck he decided to drive down a four wheeler trail (even though I tried to tell him it was a bad idea). After getting his drone stuck too high in a tree to get down and discovering he had smashed up his practically brand new car he was quite angry. He drove us out of there like a maniac. When I asked him to stop so he could settle down it only made it worse.

This last weekend he put one of our dogs in the hospital with marijuana toxicity. It was so sad to see my sweet dog in that state, not having chosen to get high like a person can - just having eaten food put in front of him by my husband. I know he didn't do it on purpose, but that was really rough on me.

Things have been crappy between us for so long that in each of these situations my mind is immediately going to divorce and what I have to do to extricate myself from this situation. On the way back from the drone-flying incident I was trying to recall a recent experience where we had gone out and done something and he hasn't ruined it... I couldn't think of one.

On Thursday I couldn't keep it in anymore. I couldn't continue lying next to him in bed with all this going on in my head. I had just found out that he had stopped going to his weekly counseling sessions at the vet center, giving up on even the tiniest bit of help he may have been receiving. I told him I wanted a divorce. He said, "wow" over and over again. He said he was "sorry" for not living up to expectations and he went to sleep in the guest room.

Friday I was scared to come home after work. Would he have smashed a bunch of stuff (again)? Would he have punched more holes in the wall? Would he be a sniveling heap on the floor (again)? Would he have run off with my dogs (aka my kids)?

I was not prepared for this calm, collected, logical version of my husband, and this is where I start to get sucked back in. He says he only ever wanted to make me happy, that everything he does is for me, and he doesn't know why he can't make me happy. He wants to know why we ever stopped therapy. He wants to know what I want out of the divorce and tells me it's all fine. Later he comes back and wants to know if he just filed for unemployability with the VA and we had that fixed income and just went and lived on the beach in Central America if that would make me happy. (Him thinking this can somehow be fixed with money shows that he has a severe lack of understanding here).

I feel like I know what I need to do for myself, but I find my resolve wavering and I don't know what I'm going to do next. At first I was ready to just go far far away (my family is in another state), now I'm debating if i should just go to a friend's for a week or so to try to figure out what I want. Or if I should get a place in town so it's not so final if I keep wavering like this. I'm so stuck!
 
Wow...just, wow! I'm not completely sure what to say here, because only you know how much you're willing to deal with.

What I can tell you, is that if I were in this situation, I would tell my hubs that he isn't making "me" happy because he hasn't taken getting "himself" better seriously. That stopping therapy is a deal-breaker for me, and that "I" would want him to seriously consider the inpatient therapy...weed be damned. If he is in a state where he's "shocked" into seeing things a little "clearer", maybe you can help him decide to do this for himself.

I did tell mine that I won't accept being around him if he drinks every night, and he did give it up. Now he only has a drink if we go out for dinner on occasion and has 1 drink typically 2 occasionally.

I'm also not suggesting that you should stay if he goes into inpatient either, only if YOU want to. But at least it gives him a chance to be better with or without you there by his side. You need to set some serious boundaries for yourself and stick to them. I understand exactly how hard this situation is.
You never did answer if you get therapy for yourself. I don't know how I'd survive some days without mine. I hope you can find some sort of resolve and peace soon. But now you have to start deciding what is best for you.
 
@Finleyac

My sincere compassion toward the turmoil that you are suffering and the suffering of your husband.

I have felt some of what you feel....it IS a living Hell............BUT I have also exited the tunnel and made it through.....there is hope.:happy:

You can make it through this.:hug:

You are almost free.....it won't feel like it...but you are.

His grasping at straws is tempting but it is NOT fooling you.

You've hear it all before....the promises, the excuses....but you already know that the cycle continues and only brings even more pain.

Like me(in my past), you already know what you REALLY need to do....but doing it feels so freaking hard and overwhelming.

You CAN do it...you are stronger than you feel.:hug:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Telling him the word "divorce" was a huge step....now the follow through.

I believe in you, and so do the other readers.:hug:

Keep us posted:happy:
 
You never did answer if you get therapy for yourself. I don't know how I'd survive some days without mine.

Sorry, I'm not very on top of this whole forum thing, and answering questions and all of that. Yes, I do have a therapist. I also contacted the local VA & Vet Center looking for some sort of support group for spouses, but was told there weren't any. I know there is a therapist at the Vet Center who does couple's counseling, but that is all I have found, and I'm just not sure if there's a point in going back there.

As always, I've gotten sucked back in by those days where my husband is a happy-go-lucky guy. I almost said "normal", but I don't think that is ever going to be possible. The problem is that nothing is ever actually going to change this way. He may get scared and be nice to me for awhile, but that doesn't mean he's actually making any progress, it just means he's scared to piss me off.

Maybe I want someone to actually take care of me for once. I just went through my third set of injections on Tuesday, trying to pinpoint the source of my head pain, and while we may have actually found the right spot this time, (yay!) I am barely functioning in immense amounts of pain. I would have loved someone to just hold me and want to care for me. Instead I am just being reminded that I did this to myself. I'm not sure there is anything more hurtful at this point than his lack of caring about what I've been going through for the last year and a half.
 
I also contacted the local VA & Vet Center looking for some sort of support group for spouses, but was told there weren't any.

The VA doesn't typically have a whole lot for the spouses, but I know here in SE WI and Southern IL there is a veteran's outreach that does offer groups for spouses and such free of charge. The organization is called the Dryhootch. The branch in IL also has a complete resource center. It's called the Grayslake Veteran's Outreach. I've gone there regularly and feel a lot of support there.
 
What does your T. think of your situation

How do you guys make sure you're seeing a good therapist, and that it is actually doing you some good? I've been seeing someone for a few months now. I originally looked for someone that specialized in chronic pain management, as that is where my focus was at the time. I'm just still not sure its the right fit, but I've never had a therapist before, so maybe my expectations are too high. I receive some suggestions, such as maybe its time for me to consult a family law attorney... She listens a lot, but never has a ton to say. I remember feeling like the same about my husband's therapist, though, one time when we were in a session with him. I just feel like I'm not good at working all this out. That I'm not good at "feelings" in general, working through them, figuring them out, etc.[/USER]
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$990.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  55.0%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom