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News Human Rights For Sex Offenders

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Do predators more often choose such professions?
Or is it just more impactful due to the trust such positions engender?
I think predators do seek out positions where they can exercise their behaviours.

It is interesting (if you can stay dispassionate while you are doing it) to look at the areas where nests of abusers have been found:

I think sports coaches, especially swimming were the first to be cleaned out. They had access to children with not many clothes on and from the child's point of view, were authority figures - but not so much to the parents, so they soon got cleaned out, although some (and this one has been through the courts, prosecuted, found guilty,sentenced, done prison time, reported in newspapers etc, so I'll use his name) like Ralph Smith in Harrogate was re employed as a board diving coach, by the burrough council despite known allegations. He tried it on with one of my exs, and she was able to tell him to keep his mucky hands off.

Priests, had access, authority etc over the children, and in the past, used to have authority over the wider community. that has gone, and what a rat's nest has been showing up in Irish Catholic communities the world over. The Irish form of Roman Catholicism appears to be probably the most authoritarian (and where Irish Catholics went, that strain followed, to America, Oz, Britain etc), from what I've seen, continental European versions of Roman Catholicism are much more laid back, and don't seem to have had the problem of abuse to the same extent.

The BBC... I rather suspect that that will be a witch hunt with a few high profile show trials of people who don't tow the line, while the well connected, will, like Saville, remain protected until after they are dead. They had access, authority over the kids and big time political cover.

Social Services depts, Prison officers, cops etc. Unless they seriously mess up, they'll stay protected. Will Grigg has covered numerous examples of cops using their positions to abuse and extort sex, with impunity http://freedominourtime.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/predators-with-impunity.html. and here, from a lady who went and got a more honest job Link Removed .
In the case of the prison officer I cited before, there were local guys trying to report him, but they had their liveliehoods threatened, and ultimately they couldn't afford to lose the ability to pay their mortgages and feed their children. Bill Maloney's interviews of some of the victims (and some of them are really suffering, I don't agree with Maloney filming one when he was drunk, the film is up on Youtube as "Medomsley Heroes" there are good bits all the way through but there's a hell of a lot of crap too), there were bigger fish who were abusing too. They were never pursued and remain protected. the two small fish told their victims that if they ever said anything, they'd be found to have "self harmed" conveniently they both died, soon after they got out of prison. strange that.

as an aside, Maloney and his siblings grew up in "care". His sister died at about age 15, of cervical cancer. Maloney did the simple maths on the basis that it usually takes about 10 to 15 years from infection with papilloma virus, before cancers begin to show up.

Politicians
While people continue to tolerate a state, and the special privileges that statism implies for some over others, then those privileges will attract the most abusive in society. see Bill Maloney's "nightmare at Elm House" for allegations. Interestingly, Margaret Thatcher's father was known to sexually harass his employees at his grocers shop in Grantham http://www.independent.co.uk/news/thatchers-dad-mayor-preacher-groper-1257249.html . Perhaps that explains something about her character, her golden child vs blacksheep dynamic with her own children, and the abusers whom she seems to have sought the company of and surrounded herself with in politics.
It wasn't just the tories who had protected child rapists in their fold (the Tory code word for child abuser appears to be "homosexual"), Sinn Fein were in there too, and Cyril Smith, their are also immediate family members of Blaire cabinet ministers, and look what one of those cabinet ministers did: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/jack_straw_placed_gagging_order
and here's the side story http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1354686/Straws-brother-placed-on-Sex-Offenders-Register.html
 
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Quite frankly, once someone has committed such a crime, they should no longer have any rights, they don't even deserve to live as the damage done to their victims is utterly horrendous. What happened to me has totally ruined my first 31 years of existence, I don't even know if or when I will ever heal from what happened. My abuser/s don't deserve to continue living.
 
I agree with you on that one, but unfortunately society doesn't share the same point of view?

Men who commit such crimes are nothing short of animals, and don't deserve human rights.

I don't actually know how they get treated in jail, or how they are seen by the other inmates, but I would like to think that they are treated with distain.
 
What @joeylittle said. It's not like women are by default less harmful, violent, exploitative... and getting away with it easier, given the societal notions women are always caring, loving beings who wouldn't even possibly consider those crimes, much less make them real, as there's a lack of aggressivity and physical assaults and mental damage present - where it just isn't a case, and makes it so harder for victims of all genders to seek out help.
 
Thanks @joeylittle and @Cashew, my mother sexually abused me and done far more damage than any of the males who abused me. Females can be just as evil as males and it's very difficult for victims (male and female) of female child sex offenders to seek help because of the way society portrays women as kind, loving, caring beings, especially mothers. But they can and do sexually abuse and I feel my mother doesn't deserve to have the right to live because of what she did to me.
 
I have a strong distaste for this discussion, but I thought I would let you all know that there is a facility just for sex offenders, where they can be (and are) held indefinitely. I think it's horrible, and I am a victim of long term childhood rape.

About Coalinga:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalinga_State_Hospital

Louis Theroux's documentary on Coalinga:
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About Theroux's documentary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Place_for_Paedophiles

There's an article somewhere on the New Yorker from Rachel Aviv, but I think I'm finding the wrong one.

Also, I think it's really unfair that this discussion is generally conflating the terms "sex offender" and "pedophile." Like the Cracked article joeylittle linked discusses (right? I know there are two pedophile-related Cracked articles; one discusses the Virtuous Pedophiles), there are non-offending pedophiles in the world. Lots of them. I knew/know(?) one, and he was the most harmless male in my early life.

More about non-offending pedophiles, check out this episode from This American Life, "Tarred and Feathered," Act II, "Help Wanted:"
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/522/tarred-and-feathered
 
I'll agree that they're human. Of course they are. And they deserve to be treated with fairness and respect, like any human.

Fairness, I agree.

Respect, I disagree, completely. Respect is earned, or not, by one's actions. Not granted by inclusion in any particular species. When an adult's actions include raping children? Unless they had a gun to their head*, they have perpetually lost any respect they might otherwise have been accorded. I do not respect people based on their race/ethnicity, gender, species, none of that. By word & deed. Not simply by being a bipedal hairless beach ape.

* sigh...And that does happen in certain parts of the world, and is the only f*cking allowance I'm willing to concede; the chance for both to live, instead of neither. Which is not pedophilia. It's extreme duress
 
In a tangent to the point of 'non offending pedophiles'... I'm not really sure that's something that exists. I've known a few self professed pedos who'd 'never ever harm a child' - yet they did, in their minds, all the goddamn times, sexualizing children, not respecting their development, outright lying & twisting basic biological facts of childhood to suit their fantasies, and in every case that injury was moral with sexual overtones. I think there's a term for that somewhere, emotional incest, moral incest, things like that.

So I basically don't believe in something like 'non offending pedophiles'. That offense is there. Only doesn't meet criminal behavior & isn't legally punishable.

The people I've known were anything from accomplished and otherwise stable members of society to people constantly riddled with guilt and promises of how they'll soon end it or rehabilitate via some drastic means, none of which was followed on. Lies and manipulation and preying on both children, people they could infantilize, 'sympathetic' people they could exploit and gaslight, and legal loopholes ensuring they're not punishable by law. Hardly harmless.

((I feel slightly strange, being that person that's rather fine with a few sociopaths with trauma backgrounds who keep their urges in check, and having this stance toward pedophiles, but then, there are simply lines I'm gonna see in black and white for my sanity as a CSA/multiple behavioral restructuring victim.))
 
When an adult's actions include raping children? Unless they had a gun to their head*, they have perpetually lost any respect they might otherwise have been accorded.
^ And this.
Doesn't mean the act is less despicable & horrenduous. Just that the blame indeed is shiftable to someone else, instead of one of lame excuses and rationalizations, and it's a survival situation, not 'orientation', and not power games blamed on orientation.

One that, as far as I recall to the studies of it (I believe there was yet someone else than highly biased and outdated Kinsey), isn't even supported by scientific evidence to exist, outside of wangsty all too loud advocates of it in the interest of silencing victims as their speaking up is rather uncomfortable.

Coming back to the thread later.
Pedophiles, zoophiles, etc-iles, and cannibals, I have quite many heaty thoughts about.
 
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