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Identifying As A Victim

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For me, it took a long time to be able to say the words out loud "I was a victim of abuse" or "I was abused". Being able to finally identify as a victim allowed me to start accepting that what happened to me was abusive, it was wrong, and it wasn't my fault.

YES!! It took YEARS for me to say I was a victim of abuse. Of torture. When I finally was able to see it I clutched onto those words (abuse, torture) as without it, it is ok and justified again in my head.

Saying "I am a victim of a crime" was part of my therapy. Identifying with it doesnt mean you are weak and usually you have to first before you identify with being a survivor.

I dont use the words usually as society has all of it so stigmatized. Its ridiculous!

I agree with @Bloomy, I am me; good, bad, and indifferent.
 
For me, it took a long time to be able to say the words out loud "I was a victim of abuse" or "...
Yessss, victim shouldn't be used as a negative. Before my mother knew the full extent of what I went through my mother and brother used to tease me that 'she's pulling the victim card' when I would get emotional and try to control situations I was uncomfortable with even laughing at me for doing something traumatizing that my mom didn't appreciate the context of. Once I told my mom the full extent of what I went through and truly owned my victim status, she started treating me better. In fact now, she is one of the most caring and loving people to me. It was a major breakthrough for me!
If people don't see you as strong for being a victim then they are not worth your time. Part of strength is accepting your limitations and working within the bounds. Using your self awareness and skill to forge ahead in inconceivable situations. Using your skill to push beyond what you think you can handle till your old comfort zones are what you look back upon.
I am a victim, no doubt about it. Also has taken me loads of humility and tears to recognize it to mysel...
Yes, this is what I mean.
I don't think that being able to say "I was a victim" is feeling pity for yourself. It's not...
Yes, it depends on the individual, it's being truthful with yourself.
I dont really find saying Im a survivor invailidating as I did indeed survive torture and cam...
I'm glad you made it through and you are here today.
I don't really believe people get stuck in the victim mentality if they are making efforts to process emotions and that's what all of us are doing here, no? It's kind of like you have to acknowledge something is wrong, like if someone say for instance has a kidney disease, they get a transplant and there are certain processes they have to go through despite receiving a kidney. They no longer have kidney disease, but they did receive a transplant thus they are still a transplant receiver. I did receiver victimization, I am a victim and it did place me in disease. Am I still being victimized in that state of disease? No, but I have to live with the repercussions. Much like a kidney patient (my boyfriend was one) has to take pills in order to survive, I have to swallow the bitter pills I need to in order to survive.
That makes me a victim, screw that victim mentality stuff because admitting the truth has taken me farther than any 'survivor' mentality ever has. I felt like I was hiding a kidney disease or something honestly. No one knew what was wrong until I let my guard down. It's like how MDMA there can be very effective for PTSD based therapy because there are intense feelings of trust. If you're a survivor, if you're strong, if you have your guard up, you're not exposing yourself in the same way as a victim.
In order for healing to take place, there need to be an openness and vulnerability. It's not like a surgeon can operate on a part that needs addressing without it being exposed, right? You can't have your guard up during that lol.
*ck all these words - Im me - Bloomy!! Im not a victim, not a survivor, nor warrior, nor fighter. I...
Anyone that is a victim is progressing because they're being honest with themselves. It's a hard truth not many can admit. Like Jung said, if you resist it persists. What we need often need to do is get down to the foundation before we can build upon it. Anyone with PTSD is a victim, whether of circumstance or otherwise. You need to give yourself sympathy, compassion and nurturing when you have PTSD. You know what really helps though? to own up to it. First I am a victim, then I am healing. Fighting against the title of victim in my opinion just makes the beast harder to slay. Like Kant said maturity is the ability to face ones self and anyone who can identify as a victim is quite mature for that reason.
 
I have an EXTREMELY hard time even saying words such as victim, survivor, abuse, rape, torture, although I know that objectively they all apply. My mantra is, "It wasn't that bad". Apparently I say this all the time to my therapist. Finally, after seeing my T off and on for 9 yrs, he was able to verbalize in a way that put into perspective how bad it really was, a way that finally sunk through to me (I think). And I was dumbfounded. I did not want to be the worst of the worst. I did not want to be that person. I still have the tendency to minimize what happened to me. Apparently that's a common coping mechanism. But I guess when I actually think of myself as a person, I don't really apply any labels associated with trauma. I think I am a good person and I am learning to be happy. I know that is very simplistic, but maybe that's why I like it.
 
I don't really believe people get stuck in the victim mentality if they are making efforts to process emotions and that's what all of us are doing here

I agree, if they are. Some dont. Some get stuck at being a victim, wanting pitty, and never moving to better themselves. Im certianly not saying you are or anyone on this site is, Im saying some do.
 
I have an EXTREMELY hard time even saying words such as victim, survivor, abuse, rape, torture, although...
Yes, I think this survivor mentality is dangerous because it leads to minimizing. Part of my PTSD was doing the same thing, I literally said it didn't affect me, it was not that bad. I couldn't call my rape by it's proper name either, I always called it sexual assault, I still catch myself doing it to this day. I think because I was ashamed and I realized I have nothing to be ashamed of, the person who did something to me does. By addressing myself as a victim I got over that shame and the invalidation that came from my family minimizing because they weren't aware how deep I felt it because I kept a strong front.
The deeper the feeling, the greater the pain DaVinci I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more. C.S Lewis It’s easier to resist at the beginning than at the end. DaVinci If you resists it persists. Jung Where there is power, there is resistance. Foucault
By resisting calling yourself a victim, you give it power. By validating myself I stopped the invalidation.
I literally couldn't even call it rape until this April after my boyfriend emphasized to me how much of a victim I was and he helped me face it. Minimizing is very harmful, but it sounds like you've gathered up the strength to face the truth, great job! I am so proud of you!
 
Some dont @missy meier, but Im not speaking of the ones that want to move foward and dont know how. I was one of them for years. Im speaking of people that stay in victim mode, want to stay there, happy to stay there, refuse help if offered, feed off of other's pitty which then allows them to stay in it longer.

Again, Im not saying thats anyone here but people like that do exist.
 
I agree, if they are. Some dont. Some get stuck at being a victim, wanting pitty, an...
Honestly, everyone heals at their own rate, you shouldn't judge their experience saying they want pity but merely be compassionate. It is the mentality that they just want pity that, they are wallowing, etc that stops a lot of people from getting better. They don't want to be seen that way and so many people will never own up to being a victim, I was one of them. But we do the best we can with the tools we have, the best tool in our arsenal is to be honest with ourselves.
Accepting that we cope in the best way we know how at the time is something that the prominent renowned physician Gabor Maté strongly emphasizes. The people you think are wallowing are healing in the best way they know how and it's honestly one of the best ways. The thing is, they release but they don't resolve. Resolving PTSD is pretty much rocket science though.
People who don't admit they're a victim never truly do either to a full extent. The fact is, some people don't ever make strides with their PTSD, some people take their own lives from the pain of it, every day those people even survive makes them victorious. PTSD is literally a traumatic brain injury because it shrinks the hippocampus. They are being compassionate to themselves, who can blame them for that?

Some dont @missy meier, but Im not speaking of the ones that want to move...
I think what you're speaking about only speaks to their fear, I would say they're trying in their own way to get over it or being avoidant. Of course, a symptom of PTSD is avoidance, you can't blame someone with PTSD for having a panic attack, can you? No, so you can't blame them for avoidance either. I would say they are less avoidant than one who does not identify with being a victim. If people want attention because someone did something horrible to them, whats wrong with that? It only emphasizes how horrible it is, we need more people like this in the world because they make the world a better place and easier for people with ptsd.
I don't think we'd be anywhere near where we are right now if it wasn't for bold people like that!
 
I learned a lot here. But l am confused. I was a victim but l shouted and hissed all the way and made sure that the abuser was aware of it. But the abuser was devoid of any normal thought patterns so he chose to ignore me. I was barely surviving the abuse when finally l left. But this all is my new identity, so l can accept and embrace the new me. Find the good qualities and understand the ptsd patterns and work with them. I am going to embrace it. I agree with @Bloomy, that it's all of me now. I feel each and everyone of you is right, because it's how you interpreted and applied to yourself to see it. This is all very subjective in a good way. I don't care anymore if people accept me, label me, laugh me, l made it through. I am here telling my story like you and where will this take me?
 
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