If You Could Change / Want One Thing On The Forum?

[angel2write]

Alex... I don't think Anthony "publicly analyzed or criticized" you at all. He went over your suggestions point by point, just like he did mine. And he disagreed with yours, just like he did mine. It's ok. I know it feels bad to have your suggestions turned down, but he's turned down most of them for one reason or other. It's not personal, and you didn't look bad.

 

[anonymous]

It is tricky to ask for opinions and suggestions and then let down the people who make the suggestions. But the thread is not a promise to have all suggestions accomplished. Just another possible chance to communicate. And also Anthony has no possible way of pleasing everybody. I don't think he meant what he said personally.

 

[Muzikluvr]

I don't like the Follow/Unfollow either. To follow someone is counterintuitive to what is really happening.

When I follow someone, I am not receiving more of their information... I am offering them more of mine. So, when people complain that they can't control who is following them, they're complaining that they can't stop people from offering them more information about themselves.

My followers get nothing from me. They give me more access to their profiles or their newsfeed (IF they've limited that info to only people they follow).

It's completely counterintuitive, IMHO. And, that's why it causes problems here. People misunderstand it. And, to call it Subscribing wouldn't make it better. In fact, it's almost more confusing because if I subscribe to someone... then I think I am going to get their newsfeed. But, really I would be exposing mine to them.

If I could come up with a more appropriate word for following/followers, then I'd suggest it. Sorry I can't.

Alex, I've been writing to you for about 4 hours now, over the last 2 days. I still can't find the appropriate, tactful way to tell you that I disagree with you on your other ideas and why. I'm sorry you were offended by Anthony's response. I didn't read it that way. I don't think you lost anything by suggesting things that he didn't agree with. If people need to be careful how they respond to you, they may not respond at all. I could hold my tongue about the suggestions I disagree with here, but if they become policy, my chance to speak against them is missed. This is an interactive forum. My intention is to communicate, not to make anyone feel good or bad.

Take care, Alex.
Muz

 

[Icon Nikon]

To all:

I have deleted my two posts in this thread.

I thought when I wrote my original post that the intent of this thread was as Nicolette stated here:

At this stage Anthony is collecting ideas, like brain-storming, where no answer is wrong.

More importantly the question was what members would like or want to change if they could with no purpose on correcting them at this stage.

So I of course had not yet seen that the intent of this thread had changed from a "suggestion/wish box" as Nicolette describes to a "discussion and answer (accept/reject) proposed suggestions" thread. I was just giving some food for thought ideas based solely on my own personal experiences here.

And yes, the original poster has every right to determine what is or is not off topic, but I never would have thought that old posts would be gone back to, crossed out, and answered in such fashion (because by default when you enter a thread it throws you to the first "unread" post).

I reiterate that all I thought I was doing was putting my suggestions in the "suggestion box" for Anthony to collect, review, and incorporate or NOT incorporate at his discretion within the limitations of the utilized software.

I never cared if he incorporated my suggestions or not, as they were just that, suggestions, but I also never expected to see a reply post that critiqued my suggestions. If fact, based on the original thread intent as I understood it, I never expected any reply at all. I believed that we would all see what his final decisions were when he rolled out any future upgrades or forum changes.

Obviously in my current condition, I would not have chosen to engage in this type of thread at this particular time, as any such debate or critique now is truly unwise for my health.

Again, no reply is expected as I am just explaining/clarifying my own understanding and my own actions.

Sincerely,
Alex

 

[anthony]

It isn't an accept or reject as such thread, however; I absolutely do acknowledge or outright reject some suggestions, so people don't have the wrong idea later on thinking their idea IS going to happen or such.

Many of your suggestions had been thought of before, many had been implemented here before, and they failed. You had a right to know that, so I gave you the answer. That isn't dismissing or anything else, it is factual, based on this forums administrative history. I've had welcome PM's, automatic posts onto intro threads, etc etc etc... it all failed and people dismissed them / didn't bother reading it the moment they worked out it was an automatic message outlining some administrative matter. The forum used a person to person approach, and it got into person to person heated debates from members thinking they had a right to tell staff how to run the site constantly, or that they should be exempt and have special rights here. Staff got stressed and upset over continual debating with members about things that aren't going to change on a person to person basis. Many staff quit moderating here for such exact reasons.

Considering staff volunteer here, I tend to now have implementations here to help protect them from such past history. Protect them from getting into impossible discussions with difficult members in private. The current policy is built on such history, and it does now protect them quite well for what they do, and don't do, in relation to one to one communication with members.

Should I have left you thinking your suggestions were valid and untried, unproven already? I would think that would be dismissive in its own right, to be perfectly honest. I know the answer to something, but didn't share it with you. That sounds dismissive if I took that pathway.

 

[Nicolette]

I thought when I wrote my original post that the intent of this thread was as Nicolette stated here:

The context of my quote was for other members responding (unintentionally?) on Anthony's behalf.

 

[piratelady]

I think it would be nice/helpful if the Facebook - Recommend thingy was not on the non-google-able(I can't remember the term you used for pages that aren't searchable by google) pages (i.e. the member-only and premium sections). I realize I should be able to be smart not to accidentally click on "Recommend" on my diary, but it would be good if maybe they weren't there? Just a thought.

 

[anthony]

They don't disclose anything other than a link and a title. If a person trying to access a private area doesn't have the access, then they only see an error.

Unfortunately it is impossible to try and limit third party applications to specific forum nodes.

 

[piratelady]

Unfortunately it is impossible to try and limit third party applications to specific forum nodes.

One last question and my apologies if this is beyond you scope of...support. If I am not logged into my facebook, if I did accidentally click on the "Recommend" button it would not post on my page? My worry that I click on the button by mistake and disclose my PTSD to people I know. I clicked on the button accidentally once already on my diary, but was able to remove it from my facebook page. I know my mis-clicks are my fault, I am just wondering how it works, if you happen to know. Thank you.

 

[anthony]

if I did accidentally click on the "Recommend" button it would not post on my page? My worry that I click on the button by mistake and disclose my PTSD to people I know.

If you're logged into Facebook within your browser, then clicking on it will produce a like on your FB page. You can obviously delete that at your FB page yourself.

If not logged into FB in your browser, then clicking it will take you to the FB login page, requiring you to login before it likes to your profile.

 

[Nicolette]

I don't know if anyone ever wondered this but:

We've got an "Ask Anthony"

There is a reason for this and I just found the perfect picture to sum it up for you all

:roflmao::angelic:

 

[BigBear]

Considering staff volunteer here, I tend to now have implementations here to help protect them from such past history. Protect them from getting into impossible discussions with difficult members in private. The current policy is built on such history, and it does now protect them quite well for what they do, and don't do, in relation to one to one communication with members.

Sometimes, I feel like the staff needs a second set of logons. (Mod1, Mod2...) It would separate work from the person and also give the mod some additional privacy. On the other hand, I imagine that it might make their job harder. It's probably also already been tried. LOL!

Bear