I'm Confused

[Sleeping Dragon]

OK, they used us, then tossed us aside. I get that.

They pissed away our tax dollars, and social security funding on every bunch of bleeding heart ass holes who came along.

The nations we fought and bled for are controlled by bankers and blood sucking corporate ass kissers who care about nothing except the bottom line on a balance sheet.

A guy who quit his post, and went off to help those trying to kill his Brothers and Sisters is given immediate attention while warriors die while on VA waiting lists.

We continue to use the same stupid approach to the use of military force over and over again. As a result good men and women die.

During the recent past I've written my senators and congressman about these concerns and have received no response. They're busy taking care of the bankers and ass kissers.

That said will someone please tell my why I still give a shit???????????? Honestly, why do we cling to things like honor, duty, responsibility and courage when those in charge show none of these qualities? It makes us look like a bunch of suckers and fools, and I'm tired of it.

SD

 

[Grizzly]

I certainly cannot answer it. I used to be very politically motivated to one party. Now I could give a rats ass. Nobody will ever move that needle in the direction it needs to be.

We were programmed somehow early on that we had a duty to defend the constitution. Some drank that koolaid and some dodged the draft, went to college or whatever. I joined, I had fund for a while. End of story. My non-vet friends fly the American flag. I don't. I somewhere along the lines failed to symbolize it the way most. But I would still defend it. I don't have a Vet license plate. Other than the fact it costs extra in my state I never felt the need to advertise it.

But I can't get it out of my head that those in Washington take it for granted. They use it more as a device of propaganda. But like you SD I also still give a shit. Too bad it's out of my control.

 

[Friday]

Character = What we do when no one is looking.

You give a f*ck, because you're the kind of guy who does. Honor, & duty, & everything else. Whether it's popular, respected, lauded, or spit on. Whether it gets you something or not. The right thing, because it's the right thing.

 

[Sarg]

"My give a damn's busted", the lady sings. Broken, worn out to the bone, not my job anymore, congress will go to war before I do, screw it!!! They'll send women, children and household pets before they pry my ass out the door.

You can call me a traitor, coward, bad American, whatever. I ain't doing it anymore.

Sarg

 

[Deleted member 43454]

We put up with it because they will label anyone a terrorist and lock them up indefinitely. What can we do when there is already so much dividing the masses that we can't all get on the same f*ckin' page. All I tell myself is that it is going to fall. I know it is. People aren't blind anymore they willingly put on blindfolds.

 

[Sapper1]

You're all right. It's making me sick. I've always been proud to be an American. Mostly because of our heritage. Things we've done in the past. All of our veterans who fought for what they believed was right. For their land and their families and friends. Our government however, can kiss my ass. It's been in a downward spiral of shame the past few years. There's always been corruption within but the past few years it seems like it's run by out of control heroin addicts. Can't say anything better than you already have. I'm embarrassed by our government. I lay awake at night sometimes because it bothers me so much.

Back before 9/11 I spent 6 months in Egypt with the multinational force & observers. At that time we could leave base while off duty and hang at the resort area of Sharm el Sheik. I met a lot of people from other nationalities who were vac there. Although many were very nice, I always had that feeling like I was the ugly American. I felt like they looked at us like that bratty little rich kid who got all they want and walk over whomever they please. I got to sit and talk with many about their cultures, government, etc. and I gotta tell you, ours is pathetic. From our hectic lifestyles to our f*cked up priorities. How many of the taxes we pay go towards the wrong shit. How we try to police the world. The list goes on. And this was 14yrs ago!!

We may be "land of the free" but our government has got us all by the balls. (Or va-jay-jays). I think at LEAST 60% of the people would agree but all we can do is keep living this disgraceful dream.

 

[dutchiedelta]

Maybe we care cos we're at the core, human beings. Even when screwed over by anyone and everyone, we try to cling to the inner part that makes us us.
Maybe cos we don't want to stoop to a level that we've seen and swore we wouldn't get down to.
The system has us by the short and curlies but it doesn't mean we have to buy into their way of thinking.
I like to think I can still use my brain and see how effed up it all is.

 

[Wagon]

Hey Hey. 500 million to "moderate" rebels in Syria. Haha.

Suck on it Vets. Our money is going to Syria.

 

[OldDoorGunner]

For me I would say it was all the movies I watched. WW1, Korea and WW2. To a young kid, that was some heavy shit!
I guess I learned about honor, duty, responsibility, integrity and courage. I went RA in 69, hell on my way to the Nam, we stopped at Wake Island. (WOW) (The WW2 ships were still there) Next was seeing Bob Hope's Xmass show at Camp Eagle!!! f*ck, I am a man now, but what does an 18 year old kid know??? Knowing what I know now, would I do it again?
I don't think I have it in me Not To. I am not one to set on the bench and let someone take my place. That's why I was a door gunner.

J R

 

[atilla]

Much respect to all of you Brothers who served in Nam. The way I look at it , alot of us younger guys probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you old "Nam Farts". (I mean that respectfully). You guys trained the next generation of warriors. Vietnam was a proving ground for a hell of alot of new stuff, as was each "conflict" afterward. Hell the air assault concept was born in the Nam. Just want to say thanks to you Brothers and seriously, welcome home. I'd have to do it again also ODG. CHEERS!

 

[Grizzly]

I don't know. The thoughts of fighting another war for oil, power and riches repulse me. It's a giant chess game and we are just the pawns. I drank the koolaid thinking liberating Kuwait was a good thing. And since I volunteered it was my job.

But knowing what I know now the very sovereignty of our country would need threatened. I grew up listening to my grandfather and uncles speak of WWII. The duty and honor still holds true to me. But today there is too much greed. Not only that, much like the wars of the last 50 years, we never fight to win. We always quit before the job is done. I'm rambling so I'll shut up now.

 

[dutchiedelta]

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Apologies cos the link is in cloggy language.
Five fighter planes from Russia!? have arrived in Iraq.
They are intended to provide air support in the battle against ISIS.

Now correct me if I'm wrong. In the news was first USA would not get involved. USA would support from the air.
USA is sending 300 specialists to train local police.

If Russia sends their 5 fighters for starters, is this turning into a: Is mine bigger than yours competition?