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Internet Dating For Ptsd Dummies

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You know I think society makes you feel like there is something wrong with you if you don't have a significant other. I am ruse Rainrunner that you are not "terminally screwed up". I have been my therapist for a couple years. You are so right that most of the profiles are great works of fiction and deception. Yea, I was very adamant that I didn't want to date anyone who did drugs or smoked. I went out with this guy a couple times and found out he smoked marijuana which he didn't think was a drug or smoking. My point is that I got rejected by so many men for so many reasons but now I don't see myself as any less crazy than the guys on the internet. I am physically fit, don't drink or smoke and have my finances in order (and I'm legally divorced) which is more than most of the guys on the internet. I've met some strange ones. I don't mean to compare myself but as I recently consoled a male friend of mine who has had too many rejections from the internet that it's a ball busting experience and that you have to have a detached and analytical attitude to do it. I think you might be able to find that right person but if you have certain interests or lifestyles, then to find someone who shares that and build a relationship from a friendship into something more is the healthiest way to go.
Keep hanging in there, Rainrunner. You will do fine.
 
Gloria, my hunch is that after some of this legal stuff has ebbed, you'll probably find the right groove in your interpersonal life. It seems like you're laying the foundation in a really thoughtful and well informed way. And in the meantime you have interests and stuff that keep you healthy and forward motivated.

Keep hanging in there, Rainrunner. You will do fine.

I agree Gloria, and so will you. :)
 
All I can say is that my son is very attractive and everyone thinks of him as a saint ever since he was in school because he so kind and good and cares about society. He's going for his masters to be a special ed teacher and he got burnt when his fiance dumped him for another guy and he's been on the internet for three years. He has a strong sense of self esteem and he simply says that he has not been able to find someone that is as healthy and he's not concerned because he said he would rather be alone than with the wrong person. Yesterday at lunch, I was with a friend (and whining a bit) because I looked and said "I bet those two women (who were my age and not attractive at all) had husbands and sure enough a few minutes later some guys came and sat at their table. I think of all my friends and I would want any of their husbands. So when we feel sorry for ourselves when we don't have someone, we can think of all the people who are miserable with their mates. :laugh:
 
I am all for technology-I love my iphone and apple. I appreciate all the advancements and being able to be in contact with loved ones from anywhere anytime. Getting photo's from a friend in another country on my phone, shopping on line while I wait in the doctors office-all great. Yet I think that internet dating will never be the way for me. People say it is good because they dont have time to meet dates. Well if they dont have time to meet-they probably dont have time for a relationship either. Healthy relationships are an investment of time, energy, and work.

I think that internet dating is disappointing because it does not provide for the human connection that we find in real meetings. Its impersonal. You can read all the right words and the pic can be attractive and yet when you meet, there may be no connection or clicking of personalities. For me-it takes away from being a human being. I think humans are much too complex to sum it up in a profile-and if we did-who would want to read that much. Then it is not objective report, it is self report. Just because I may say Im witty and loyal, that is very subjective and someone else may think Im an obnoxious co-dependent. There is a chemistry between people that you wont know until you meet. When its not there for me, some see it as rejection. (Attraction is not chemistry). In my experience, men I have met are usually attracted to me so want to pursue a relationship. I do not because there is not that unexplainable chemistry (intellectual, spiritual, combination???) Whats that do for ones self esteem? Some men I have met are very nice-just not for me. I am not willing to settle at this point in my life. I could have stayed married if I were willing to settle. I was more compatable with my ex than those Ive met.

If we all put the whole truth-likely nobody would contact me. Is it deceptive or self preservation?
Example: I have ptsd and have lost my assertiveness skills but am working on regaining through therapy. Due to this, I have become frustrated and misdirected my anger at times. However, I do recognize and will apologize promptly. I also have issues with trust. There are many reasons for this but being assaulted by a police officer has caused me to seem "paranoid" about those with power. Dont worry-I am not. My fears are legitimate. One of my kids is a drug addict and the other is a smart ass. She is extremely intellegent and successful. The smart ass still has not accepted her fathers absence and will make your life miserable if you are present in my life.(Any takers-lol)

We all have some baggage if we have lived all these years. When we create our profile, of course we are not going to list our faults -we are selling ourselves, so is everyone else. I think it is very superficial. I did this and did not post a picture. I got no contacts. Then I posted a few pictures and had over 1000 views in less than a month and about 100 emails. While there is nothing wrong with wanting someone easy on the eyes, I am more than that but since all the words can be just bs, photos are the main reason for initiating contact.

When we meet someone in person, be it at the gym, through work, through a hobby, etc, we have the benefit of seeing their mannarisms, of using our own judgements ( what I might see as a good sense of humor may not be another womans idea of it). We have the benefit of getting to know that person without expectations. Maybe I am old fashioned in this area but I just dont think internet dating is my cup of tea. However, I am intrigued by it and like to read the profiles but dont ever see myself pursuing a relationship this way.

James B-I strongly agree in the down time. I know I am worth it. Only when I am healthier will I be able to invest in a relationship and attract the kind of man that I am attracted to.
 
I feel the internet dating thing is like putting yourself on an on-line catalog. The most attractive package (pictures) will get the most attention. Another thing about internet dating is that if the other is still on the internet, you are dating someone and you will be competing with thousands of profiles. I've gotten into marriages and long term relationships with men who kept their options open by staying in contact with internet people and it's being unfaithful emotionally.
 
I gave up the internet thing years ago. As a guy, it may work IF one has an advanced degree, has a lot of money, is physicialy fit, never stops smiling, loves dogs kids and the "out doors" and generaly doesn't mention anything about being less than perfect. (how do you spell PTSD?...much less understand it...or want to). Oh yes and then there is the often stated...."must be stable and without baggage".

It's not too much different than real life, just easier to lie and to pretend one is something they are not.

I have not yet figured this all out. Internet or not. Yes, I have PTSD. No, I'm not crazy. Yes, I'm a great guy. Yes, I'm healthy enough to be in a relationship. One can't live forever without human touch and companionship. I am at a complete loss on how to....get back some of the things stolen by PTSD (not whining, really).

Maybe I need to try the online dating again. Actually, before I gave it up I put a new add online for me. I was frustrated with all the lies and superficial need others had for "perfection". In that light I post me....just as I am. The good points and the bad with over emphasis on the "take me as I am, and that's not bad"....and "more interested in connection than perfection", etc.

That is not what the women looking....are looking for !

At this point I look with amazment at those with PTSD that are in a relationship, are married, have found their soulmate, etc. It should work for me too. Maybe I have to got back to the internet...since I live in a rural area. If so, I will be faced again with the "typical" online gal that wants it all.

As one who spent their life leaping tall buildings (well, maybe not so tall ones) in a single bound, it's hard enough to admit I need a ladder now, and admit my suit of armor has a lot of dings.
Not many people care about the guy inside the suit of armor : they only care that it is not dinged up and is well polished on the outside.
 
Dear Mysibha,
I think you expressed everyone's frustrations very well. I have with multiple personalities. She is quite a handful but I love her and so does her husband. I know people married to gamblers, addicts, cheaters and alcoholics and they stay with these guys because despite the down side, they really love them. I was married to an alcoholic. I loved and accepted him and he loved me but he died of alcholism but he really did love me and I miss him a lot. Now he was probably the most bizarre and unattractive man that you ever saw. In fact, a few days ago, I saw a man that looked pretty much like him at the post office and to be perfectly honest, he looked terrible but he loved me and my sons and we loved him very much.

Okay, he wasn't like that when I met him. He looked pretty good but 25 years of alcoholism changed his appearance. I see on your profile that you are in you in your fifties. Oh my! I think it gets tougher then. By the time we are in our fifties (like me) we have health problems, don't look as good as we used to and are awfully stuck in our habits. I suggest dabbling in the internet but try not to get hurt. People with PTSD have some qualities that make us better mates than most. For instance, I hate ending relationships so I will stick with a guy through tough times and some dysfunction. I also am very loyal and protective. Being on this internet site, you are much more aware of your feelings that most men and open with them. Women absolutely love that. I live in a rural area also. No one in the area interests me and guys want to drive two hours to meet me. I'm not interested. I have to be extremely careful right now because the economy is bad and I'm financially stable. Some men do try to latch unto to me.

I am really glad that I wrote this thread because it helps a lot not to feel sorry for myself for being alone and to know that other people are afraid or get hurt on the internet (and are rejected) because of our PTSD. But what would you prefer to date? A woman with PTSD or one that is obese, alcoholic, borderline, etc. I mean it isn't the kiss of death. I don't thinnk I'm a bad catch but right now,I need to be alone for a little while and recuperate from my assault three years ago. Until I am completely over that, I really don't want to date much.

Thanks again everyone for your input!
Hugs,
Gloria
 
Ha - with the thing with online dating, this was a little rant I put on my "normal" profile before I left. I had saved it just in case I needed an occasional giggle. My experience was that men were looking for perfection. I wasn't. I even made a point of saying that I was looking for someone who enjoyed the simple things in life and considered them more important than money than one who considers his net worth the determination of who he is. Here's the rant. *giggle*

Update:
I don't know about some of you guys out there but I'm really starting to wonder if anyone on here is for real. If I have to read one more time about guys who excel in, like, 20 different sports, have pics that are so photoshopped their face looks kind of melted, want a soulmate and are looking for a woman who is petite, slender, beautiful and without issues or baggage, I'm going to scream. No, wait, if one more guy from Oklahoma, London, Florida or Nebraska contacts me I will scream. Guys, I'm from Jersey. The US. Thank you. I also need to mention the pics of guys holding fish - why? And, whoa, there are alot of scuba divers and mountain climbers out there. And stop with the pics of you flexing in the bathroom mirror. It's nasty. You know, I'm a good catch. Really. Don't laugh. I'm smart, a little weird, have a wicked sense of humor and can take care of myself. I do wonder what y'all are looking for and if she is one who has all those perfect qualities y'all mention, she will be a fearsome thing to behold.
 
Ha Ha!! You are great Rainrunner!!! I was so stupid that I thought that the pictures on the internet were accurate. Then my girlfriend spent the afternoon looking at male and female profiles and we were had too much caffeine and laughing hysterically. She pointed out that the clothes and hairdos on some of the pictures are from the 80's so the photos were really old. They claim to be 40 years and their picture looks like they are 20. I love the guys who have pictures of their motorcycles or cars. Obviously, they didn't know that we women know what they are compensating for. :geek: I looked at my ex's profile once and I laughed so hard. He rides a little motor scooter and he put a picture on his profile. All the other profiles have these Harleys so he didn't realize that he was actually kind of advertised that his phallic symbol was small and insignificant. What an idiot! Yea and never answer an profile if the guy is half naked because it's a sure sign that he just wants to get laid. In their little fantasy on-line dating world, they say pictures of beautiful young women and since they are available and on the internet, they are convinced that this woman is going to want them. What I love is when two people meet and they both put false pictures and profiles out there and they end up meeting. How funny!

As a joke once. I had a membership paid for on one of the sites for 12 months (they sucked me in) and I didn't want to just hide my profile but decided to have fun. I put an ad in with my picture and the heading was "Looking for my retirement fund". I put down that I wanted a man between 80 and 100 years old who was a millionaire and had a very bad heart condition. Ha Ha!!:laugh: I got some idiots responding to my ad!!! I guess there are somebody out there that will fall for anything.

Good luck to you!!
Hugs,
Gloria
 
OH I forgot to mention......A few years ago, a friend badgered me for months about "E harmony"??, I think. She said they claim x % of perfect matches based on the answers of many question they ask which are analyzed by computers and experts ? I told her it was crazy because nobody answers the questions truthfuly anyway. She badgered me for months. I bet her there would be no matches if I answered truthfully.

I finally went to the site and took the "free"..."test". After about 2 hours of answering many questions, I was done.
It only took minutes for the analysis to be complete.

DING....."sorry we have no matches for you at this time".

Maybe online dating is my only option. I don't like it. I don't want to pay for it. I don't like the word "date". I'm not sure what it means anymore. It seems a pipe dream, to just meet somebody that I click with for a conversation and a real friendship. I thought that was how relationships are supposed to be built.

Logic would say that I could get along better with somebody with PTSD because I understand it. (and they would understand mine?) Mine is from Fire/EMS work but I have a good working knowlege of other trauma and understand the effects, after effects and challenges. Logic also says...don't get too envolved with an alcoholic(or one that has been dry for 9 years...been there, done that, and paid a Huge price, years ago)...but it sure seemed "real" at the time.". Maybe it was but I can't survive one more heart disection.

I get the impression from this thread that many are using this forum for a dating site ?? Honestly I have been absent from this forum for several months until, uh, yesterday I think. Did I miss the button that says "find your soulmate" ??

And finally, I should mention that I have NOT been honest. I AM 29, and have been so for about 58?years. I always smile and laugh. My mattress is STUFFED with money (you know how many monopoly games one has to buy to come up with that kind of CASH ! I run 10 miles each day and generally look like a Greek God. What more could a lady want ??
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In the end, I am just me. "Normal" people bother me. I have a sign that says so. I also believe in a soulmelding love so strong that nothing can hurt it. But that implies neither party would do things to disect the others heart. It also implies that one can achieve a love so deep that most can't comprehend it and not much can hurt it if both are on the same page.

I better stop rambling. Thanks for either listening or not listening.
Gloria, thanks for your kind remarks...(Hugs)
I think I need to find Grady again.
If that doesn't ring a bell...I wrote about it somewhere in here.

Dave
 
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