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Childhood Its Just A Book

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I really feel like this memory isn't mine. Maybe because it's just buried so deep.

Possibly. Theres so many kinds of dissociation, I found this to be so informative:

https://www.myptsd.com/threads/dissociation-explained.13879/

I just can't seem to let it or any emotion come to the surface. It's like it gets up to my throat and I have to squash it.

I was right where you are only about last early Jan; I couldnt feel anything but self anger and self hatred, that includes pain, sadness, happiness, joy, nothing. So you can get there! I believe in you! :hug:

I yes, ANGER IS WONDERFUL! ;)
 
Yes that was a helpful thread...thank you. :) thinking about the part where it said that when dissociation happens when you're young your core self is hidden so deep you can't remember where you put it. Makes me wonder is this my REAL personality? Was this who I was intended to be...before I was 4?

Just something I have thought about many times and then reading that just really makes me wonder.

I see T again tomorrow...going twice a week right now. Hoping he tells me more about what exactly happened last week with the book.
 
Makes me wonder is this my REAL personality? Was this who I was intended to be...before I was 4?

Me too! Or more so whom am I un-traumatized..or whom would I have been anyway as I will never be un-traumatized.

I said in a thread once that I wonder if Im, on the sites, the one being traumatized or the one up at the ceiling looking down at the one being traumatized. My friend on the other site sees some of my posts on here and quoted me in our message and says he sees me as the one up on the ceiling watching the one being traumatized connecting with the one being traumatized.

Whew, only someone that disocossates would get that lol.
 
yes it makes perfect sense to me. And as much as i dissociate I'm afraid I'm gonna wake up one day amd everything is going to be a delusion...
Kind of like the movie A Beautiful Mind
 
@KeepingTime the movie "A Beautiful Mind" he had the furthest disocissation, DID. But not all DID is the same either because then you have Cyble, and I own a movie Mary Higgins Clark All Around The Town which is based off the book and the main character has DID. So for each I think its different.

You may have DID but your therapist didnt mention it therefore likely doesnt feel you do.
 
@Ragdoll Circus schizophrenia, that what it was, Im sorry. Seeing people that arent there and basically a fake reality. It was schizophrenia, I remember his wife trying to tell him. I own the movie but its been forever since Ive seen it. Its an amazing movie!

Im sorry! But @KeepingTime you are scared of never coming back, if you remember the movie, he did come back. He still saw the people but knew they werent real and spent his life until he was old doing that and having a productive life. But that wasnt disocissated but I know what you are saying and the highest disocissation is DID and there are wonderful treatments for DID. You cant 'go deeper' then that. I dont think theres a such of a thing of say disocissating to my world and not coming back as ive always come back. I did loose memory twice amd it scared the hell out of me but still then came back. So I dont know.

But that normal hollywood thing of a psych ward, people sitting there rocking but non-responsive; looks like they are trapped in their mind. If thats what you mean, I dont know if thats reality. Ive never been in an actual psych ward but im sure there are treatments for most things. So though i understand your fear, I honestly dont think it will happen. :hug:
 
Yes I believe it was schizophrenia (my T corrected me too) in that movie, but I guess I just am mostly doubting my persecption of reality if that makes sense. Like what if what I think is my core self is really a dissociated state? Just rambling really. Just having a hard time facing reality.

I have been in the psych ward too many times to count. Once in a state hospital for 6 months and yes there were many ppl there who definitely had their own reality.

We discussed the book a little today. Mostly about my reaction and tearing the page out. He said I got angry...to which I said that doesn't sound like something I would do. I don't get angry...it wasn't allowed. "Of course not" he said and He reminded me of the punishment I would face if I expressed any emotion or defiance. But he said that didn't happen in here...it would never happen in here. I believe him but then I have that horrible nightmare where I'm standing at his grave and his hand reaches up and grabs my foot and pulls me in.

T calls it abuse, I just can't yet. Just discipline. The one time I remember running from him...not sure why I ran but I hid in the attic. He came in after me but I crawled into a small space. It was dark and cold but I didn't care. Then he left and I thought I was safe. But he closed and blocked the attic door shut and I was locked in there for what seemed like forever. By the time he let me out I was begging by the entrance to please let me out. I'll be good. I won't run again. He drug me out by my ankles as my head bounced down the stairs. Then there was real punishment.
 
Skipping back-----

Yes, sometimes the dissociation is so bad that I fear I won't ever come back. It's when I'm "here" but also "not here" just enough so I cannot willfully ground myself into being fully "here" and I have no choice but to simply wait for the dissociation to end.
 
@KeepingTime i didnt call what happened to me abuse, or a cult for years and years. It was my fault, i caused it for not complying for what "god" told them to do thus not complying with "god"'s orders. And punishment was right as i was wrong and thus had to punish myself as an adult for every single "bad' thing including but not limited to if someone got upset with me or if I didnt do something just right.

I also defended them and their actions and straight up screamed at my therapist if he dared to say a bad thing about them or what "god" said...after all, whom was my therapist to question "god"? Like how dare he!

Then blame,.all the blame squarly on me. Everything that happened, all the punishments, all the animals that died, all of the bad that happens in my world, my family going away, everything was my fault. When that shifted, everything changed. I couldnt move anywhere until I moved blame off of me. Which happened here on the site and theres no way it could of happened in therapy, too many walls were up. My defenses had to be down...and they were as down as they could have been, I was suicidal that night. In order to allow it to move, I had to answer the one question and say the one thing that had to be answered without any buts, without any excuses, without anything...i had to say it over and over and over to myself until I could do so without anything. My mom and step father are f*cked up pedophiles. Today its easy to say that, back last mid Jan not so much. Then i fought it for a while because blame badly wanted to come back over so i had to just keep saying it. Today, I believe it now. I didnt for a while after, it was just something I said to myself but today I can def say I believe it.

I still dont see my past as "horrible" and im still seperated from it but moving blame was the first step. I think the next biggest thing is moving rage.

Go at your pace, do it when you are ready. By the way, I hid in a closet it every time and I got locked in for days at a time too, in the first closet I hid in. A tiny little hall closet about 4 foot by 4 foot. It was the first place I hid so it was the closet they locked me in. I started to hid in the bedroom closet after that and id get drug by my hair, actually drug by my hair was common for a lot of punishments.

I classify myself as "other" so i can tell you your past was abuse but not see my own past as "horrible".

And I ramble too. You can answer a lot of questions by rambling. Its your thread, ramble all you want! ;)
 
I dont know, I never remember having a fear of leaving and not coming back. I guess its because its what I always did since as early as I can remember and I always came back.

Maybe I did as child but I dont remember. I know eventually I will always come back because I always have. So I dont know.
 
I was by myself last night for the first time in a long time. Hubby is gone for a night. I got really triggered and have dissociated on and off all day. More of this memory is coming and I'm just really struggling with it. Wednesday (T) seems so far away and I'm stuck in a memory loop.

@lostforgottensoul so sorry for all you have been through. Mine wasn't a cult but I got the god thing too. "God made a special place for this" and an assortment of scriptures about discipline etc.
I had to answer the one question and say the one thing that had to be answered without any buts, without any excuses, without anything...
I'm really struggling with this one. I have uttered the words once but it doesn't stick. T compares it to trying on clothes. Out it on for a little while...even believe it even happened for a minute. But then I go straight back to denial. After each memory we talk about He always says "can we at least agree that this happened?" Sometimes yes sometimes no. But hearing how you came to believe it really helps. Thanks for sharing. I know its key to me moving forward.

My T uses the word "horrific" and it makes me crazy to her that. I always shut him down. But like you I can hear others stories and believe that it is horrific....why do we hold ourselves to a different standard?

I know I probably should write here about the new memory around the book but I just don't think I can yet. But maybe it would help get it out of my head until I can get back to T
 
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