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Yes it is heart-breaking and in general not enough is known or done about sex offenders, child abuse or the ptsd it causes.
However, if a sufferer ever manages to get out of the terror it places them in, then the value they place on the good in life is incredibly precious.

If you want to see what dissocation feels like, then look at the photo's of the sculptures I made on my diary thread...mentioned above (Meet the E.P's).[DOUBLEPOST=1403389330,1403389053][/DOUBLEPOST]
To restate she needed time at that point, when I was already giving it to her seemed redundant.

I suppose that's what I meant. There are different kinds of time and not just in terms of length.
I said once that I needed 'space' to a boyfriend. What I meant was that I needed someone who would very carefully and gently respect my wishes and slowly and in plain sight support me in re-building my boundaries. I didn't mean stay away or leave me alone for bit.

This is essentially about emotion and very fragile emotion. She has to go at the pace of a very scared child and she will need someone who will also go at the pace.

Perhaps 'time' in her case means speed.
 
@blue_eyes18 , you have some wonderful responses here & I sort of am wary to add anything, each person/ relationship is different & this is just me. I think too we all have different beliefs, thoughts & experiences. For example, I relate to what @Caterpillar said, for myself but only in a 'new' relationship. @Springer80 has wonderful insights, for myself though I don't know how much was related to dissociation. But what stood out to me was you mentioning it has occurred before & yet you have no real problems between you. So I guess here goes.

I think the repeated breaks come from thoughts that resurface, or feelings too such as shame, & feeling like someone deserves better. It's knowing the 'ins-and-outs' & extent of the difficulties the person with ptsd lives/ (relives). For example, it's fear, depression, panic, suicidal despair, exhaustion, etc. Leaving is not intended to hurt but help. Yes it reduced stress to leave, mostly because I no longer had to wrestle with confirming/ denying my own toxicity, or the fear of being loved. As Springer said neither the other person nor myself really existed at that point.

After many years I think now it was a not-really-conscious way for me to back out from being loved. Not as a child-thought, as the adult & how I am.

Everyone I left they was either angry or I felt didn't care that much. Two told me I was the reason for what they did, most said "now what?", as regards themselves only. They could not see it was hard for me. Heard on the grape-vine one still asks about me, one got hired where I worked (not their desired field), but I left.

Ultimately, one or 2 didn't know me (I felt they had no idea of what they would be stuck with). The nasty one in particular I don't think cared (therefore it was easy for me to stay). Ones who said they cared, Idk. Words, not actions.

Looking back perhaps, perhaps if they had responded openly, & not over-reacted, but had persisted & been more direct, it would have made me pause. If they understood better what couldn't be said & been direct about it. To say, 'it will be ok, this is extreme talk, can I do anything, what is going on?, I can see you feel terrible'. And more of, 'it will be ok', And, only if they meant it, 'I love you as you are & still want only to be with you'. Because you see, to not understand or have any knowledge & say you want to be there is uniformed. Similarly, some people actually don't want you there without being someone else- different- being 'better', etc. Also I needed clear communication. If I didn't hear words, I didn't assume it. Plus all the pressure of the 'future'.

My mom once said something sweet- I don't know if we were talking about depression/ suicide or what, I know I said something about 'well I'd never get to Heaven (one day) anyway", & she said "If heaven didn't have people like you in it I wouldn't want to be there!" . It meant a lot, because I knew she meant it, it validated I had some worth, & yet it was with knowledge of so much of the ('negative') me.

And they all (except one) said 'what about me?' .The only one who didn't just held me & cried & gave me a present when we said goodbye & said 'I wish you wouldn't'. He is the only one I think did care. Which also reminds me of something else, he was vulnerable but the others expected me to be (or I felt I was) & it felt terribly unequal/ frightening because they weren't.

I do think, once the decision is made, if there's no contrary opinion or effort or even statement of 'tell me why?' the person will leave for good. That's the easier part.

No, good relationships don't preclude healing, but healing is very painful too. No I don't believe she is trying to hurt you. And on top of everything there are the cultural & family challenges too.

I don't know if this will help at all, but I truly wish you the best. There's some saying that 'the path of true love never runs smooth'. If you two can overcome it, you will likely have a better relationship for it. But for now, ptsd has no cure, it will never be ever 'gone for good' either.

Hugs to you.
 
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Btw @blue_eyes18 , I never second-guessed my decisions, but the desire for the decisions was affected greatly by fear, & fear of being a burden too. I saw them as necessary.

I do regret how I went about some of them, but I tried my best to communicate. I couldn't do any better. I don't regret that any of the relationships ended however, in fact in some instances I am really thankful.
 
My heart goes out to you. It sounds like she has torn loyalties between her family and you. I am more concerned for you being on this yo yo.

I think for your own sanity it would be better for you to cut off ties with her. She is really not in a place where she can meet your needs and wants. If I was you I would just let go of her instead of her stringing you along and prolonging the agony of what you are experiencing. You deserve to be loved just the way you are.

I understand that you love her and in her own way she is bonded to you.

But I do not see a future for both of you. This is my gut feeling and my opinion so you can toss it if it does not work for you.

I wish you all of the best whatever you choose. This is such a hard call. But you need to be realistic and see how this is tearing you apart.

I wish she was in
 
Ah @gizmo :) ever reliable with the self-care sage advice. And I agree! @blue_eyes18, what I'm hearing from you is that you did absolutely everything you could and that couldn't fix things, which tells me that the challenges being faced were beyond your capacity to overcome. You're a limited and fallible human just like the rest of us :) and that's ok.

As I've posted elsewhere this sounds like a heartbreaking example of right person, wrong time. The love you shared is not diminished by the painful end to your relationship though - it's odd that as a culture we define the success of a relationship by how it ends (with a successful relationship being one that ends with someone dying, it's really weird when you think about it) rather than by how much you added to each others lives. Food for thought at this difficult time.

As a reflection from my own experience, my boyfriend had been experiencing PTSD for ~10 years when we met and at that time he declined developing a romantic relationship because he was "too crazy". It was only after 7 years of close friendship while living our own independent lives that we were able to begin a meaningful romantic relationship. He frequently disappeared for extended periods during that 7 years and it's only now that we are living together that I know why, and that's only because it happens in my house. This is him vastly stabilised and he continues to stabilise, but still just being close to me and trusting me is incredibly challenging for him. My point is, I've seen how challenging maintaining a relationship is while experiencing PTSD with ~15 years of (intermittent) therapy, medication, and nearly a decade of consistently demonstrated friendship and support. I can only begin to imagine how challenging trying to maintain a relationship would be while experiencing PTSD without those things. Since you (probably) don't have a time machine to jump 10 years into the future where these things might exist, it seems to my eyes that the only things you can do are: a) take care of you; and b) take control of the things you can actually control in building a future that you want to live.

Good job on reaching out for support :) doing so suggests that you're already on the right path.
 
Thank you everyone, so much. So so so much. The answers are truly amazing.

I'm just having a very hard time with it. I miss her so incredibly much. This is one of the hardest things I've gone through :/

In a way, I feel like I failed her. I tried so hard to be there for her and be her rock. I gave her literally my EVERYTHING. And in the end, it wasn't enough. In the end, she left. And I can't seem to help but feel like if I had only done this differently, or that, perhaps it could have been different. But truth be told, I have no clue what I ever could have done differently. I really don't. But that doesn't stop this guilt. I keep feeling like a failure and letdown.

I hope in time it will get better. I just wanted to marry her. I saw my future with her. It hurts to feel like I wasn't enough.
 
Internet hugs (if you want them).

My last break up was a doozy even without PTSD in the mix. I definitely beat myself up for all the things that I thought I should or shouldn't have done, but ultimately I had been myself and they didn't want to be with me and nothing I could have done would have changed that. Ending relationships is always hard, but I promise that things do get better :)

I have friends that really benefited from counselling after relationships ended with people who were experiencing acute mental illness, because being in that kind of relationship is not a typical life event and as such specialised support to wrap your noggin around it can be handy. Not saying that you need therapy, you're in the midst of grieving and feeling awful is sadly par for the course, but just putting it out there that it's ok to have extra struggles with this and it's ok if you need extra support. Lots of self care, lots of self compassion, and see how things go :)
 
@blue_eyes18 , I've felt badly ever since I read what you wrote. The truth of the matter is that no one knows the future, or how things will work out, or if they will. I know of one person here- he & his gf ended up back together & married. Others it didn't work out but they are happy. So many variables- trust, maturity,self & self-centeredness, capabilities, figuring out what love is. I do think if you both are really in love, you may find a way. And love (should) build each other up & want the best for each other.

When I said I had no regrets the relationships weren't comparable, I think. They solidified what I feared or created new problems or heartache.

Whatever you feel is valid. But I still believe you did nothing wrong.

Hugs & hopes for comfort for you.
 
Thanks blackswan and junebug. Your words are comforting. I really need it at a time like now.they mean a lot.

I've just been keeping myself busy. Hanging out with friends, etc. It's been working wonders. But I still miss her so much. It's just so hard for me to wrap my brain around - the fact that we had such an amazing time together and were so in love the week before, to now, her not wanting anything to do with me. And her saying I'm not good enough. :/ the changes always throw me off so much.
 
She's really good at making really hurtful comments when we've broken up in the past. Every time we've broken up, she says things that really sting in a big way. After we would reconcile, I would ask her why she said those things and if she meant them and she always says it's to push me away so I leave her. And that she never means them.

This time, as we were breaking up, she said she misses her past relationships back in Saudi (she's ALWAYS told me she would never want to date a saudi man again and that she has never loved another person like she loves me - and I feel it when we are together). But all of a sudden, when she was breaking up with me, she said that. Once again, if you know her - completely out of the blue. It made me feel completely inadequate. Basically like they gave her something I didn't/couldn't. Thing is, her last relationship in Saudi ended before she even became an adult. She moved to the US when she was 18. So she's never even had a relationship as an adult there.

So this is where I get the whole 'not good enough' thing. She basically compared me to her past, and told me I don't measure up. Thing is, I KNOW she loves me. And I know she was incredibly happy with me. It's not arrogance. I just know it. I could feel it when we were together. And I know it wasn't just me. You can tell when you're in a happy relationship. We were very much in one. But like I said, she would say things like that in the past, or comparable, that would completely catch me off guard. Then would swear she loves me so much and didn't mean it. That she just tried to get me to leave.

All I know is it hurts really badly. I can't be treated like that anymore. Like I said, one minute we are on vacation together and she's telling me she can't wait to marry me and the next, I'm not as good as her past relationships.
 
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