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Lets Talk About Sex And His Guilt

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Now that I've got you guys attention. I really would like to hear from a suffererr who can probably answer this thread better than the carer.

My Marine and I we go through our ups and downs too as a couple. Well the only thing I deal with is his silence for a couple days where I feel like he doesnt even miss me even though he always say he does. When he is away and he doesnt reply to text messages or calls its simply terrible. But I can honestly say as long as I've known my marine which we've dated on and off for the past two years before I recently discovered he has PTSD. Whenever we were together he was always very affectionate, passionate, gentle and he non stop flatters me with compliments always and that has never changed. We never had a real argument or fight he is just not that kind of person. I am but he somehow mellows me out.

My Marine is extremly physically attracted to me and vice versa. We are a very good looking couple I must say so myself lol not to be conceited but we're told that all the time. We are that couple who is making out no matter where we are restaurant, night clubs, house parties. No matter where we are we are kissing each other all the time. And we are both in our late 20's, we are not teenagers. lol We are the couple people will say " hey get a room!". But since he has been home for the past two months (which is when i discovered he has Combat PTSD) the affection and the making out hasnt changed. He is still very into me. We get along great. When he is not in his lows we do talk about everything, even the war. But when it comes to us having sex, he always wants it, he always initates it but when it happens he's been feeling really guilty. Either right before we start when were both undress ( I hope this is not too much info) he almost always stops and say " this is wrong we shouldnt be doing this" when I ask him why all he can say is " i dont know, I just feel guilty". Before I knew he had PTSD I thought he had another woman and he felt guilty because he was cheating. I flat out asked him " Guilty? are you cheating on someone by us making love? what do you mean by you feel guilty?" He just kept saying he doesnt know.
Then there are times right during us being intimate he will suddenly stop and say, No we should stop. I asked why he says " i dont know.. Maybe I want to marry you, maybe i want you to have my kids." I'm wondering if he stops because during us being intimate he feels alot of emotions he cant figure out? He tells me he loves making love to me, maybe way too much and thats why we shouldnt. It doesnt happen every single time but it happens often where he wants to stop because he feels guilty. Someone please explain this part of PTSD because he sure cant and I do understand it. And if indeed it has something to do with his PTSD, why does he constantly initiate it?!

Should I be the one to stop him when he starts? By the way thats hard to do. We are very much in love and into each other. As a matter of fact whenever he goes away for a couple of days and I do text him and say " hey are you coming over later to watch a movie?' He will say no he cant come over because he knows were not gonna watch a movie. He says he knows when he sees me that he is going to want to be intimate. And that he is trying to avoid that from happening.

So Let me tell you guys what I am interpreting from what he is telling me:
He loves me, Thinks I will be his wife one day, loves making love to me but doesnt want to because we shouldnt do that because he feels guilty for a reason he is unsure of. Its hard for us to have quality time because he is distracted by being turned on by me..

Okay, I dont want to make it seem like our relationship is based on this. Out of the two years I've known my marine. The majority of our relationship was over the phone because he was staioned in another state and would only come home on Federal Holidays. The last two months is the most I have ever seen him face to face in two years. I dont mind having a realtionship without sex until we get married. But I am confused as to why he loves sex so much but then backs out everytime. How does feeling guilt during sex relate to his combat ptsd??
 
So, it sounds like intimacy triggers an intense feeling to me. It's not about sex, most likely. And the guilt probably has nothing to do with you, but more likely has to do with stuff he did or didn't do in traumatic situations.

Keep offering him intimacy and support, knowing he may or may not be able to participate because of old stuff interfering in his current situation. He needs your support.

Ted
 
Cuddle and forget the sex for a while. Believe it or not 'finishing things or completing things' is one of the aspects of this.

Guilt? Maybe. Possibly. Confusion definitely. And I would guess somewhere in his subconscious feeling pressured and creating resistance/avoidance.

Just cuddle. Absolutely no pressure, no future plans. Just be 'in the moment' with him and let him slowly identify the emotion (by himself). Fall asleep in each others arms if thats whats normal, and put today to sleep, and wake up to a new days tomorrow.

One day at a time.

Feeling 'trapped' is huge. And its not necessarily anything abnormal you are doing, but while its there, little things can trigger that overwhelming emotion and subconscious need to 'not go in there'.
 
Thanks Jacquie and Ted! I was speaking to him on the phone for 2hrs tonight. I brought up this topic and I asked him does he think it has to do with the emotions that he feels in the moment and he said " I think so for the most part".. So Confusion and the feeling of happiness does have something to do with it I guess. I am very patient with my Marine. He is truly an amazing guy! He has told me SOME of the things that took place while he was in combat. I just wanted to make sure that none of his trauma had to deal with anything sexual in nature ya know? That was my main concern. I asked him and he said " heck no!". So I can live with us not being intimate when he feels uncomfortable. I am okay with it.
 
Just cuddle. Absolutely no pressure, no future plans. Just be 'in the moment' with him and let him slowly identify the emotion (by himself). Fall asleep in each others arms if thats whats normal, and put today to sleep, and wake up to a new days tomorrow.


One day at a time.

Love this
 
PTSD seems like a very convenient excuse for the guilt issue. Are you absolutely certain that he is unattached? Does he include you in family functions etc?

Please keep in mind that I trust no one & am extremely cynical. So when I read guilt during sex etc I immediately think he's married or otherwise involved. Especially when the ptsd trauma is not sexual in nature. I hope that's not the case but it's what immediately comes to mind.

Has he spoken to his therapist about this? Maybe that would help him (& you) find some clarity.
 
Dee Morris,

That was the first thing that came to mind as well when he express guilt during sex! I thought he was involved with someone else and he has denied it over and over again. Yes he does involve me at family functions. I have met his family several times and been to house parties and BBQ's with him. To my knowledge he is not involved with anyone else. Did he mention it to his therapist? No he did not. I will suggest to him that he should.
 
So when I read guilt during sex etc I immediately think he's married or otherwise involved. Especially when the ptsd trauma is not sexual in nature.

This is a very serious thing to say. Sex is by nature a very intimate thing, for most humans it is not with out emotions. So it makes perfect sense to me that any one with " a very convenient excuse" would avoid sex, regardless of there trauma.

Depression, guilt being thrown at us because we have a hard time expressing ourself ( when we ourself can not always express it and understand it), just makes things worse.
 
Soo I brought up this topic with My marine this morning. I thought of what Dee Morris said. To re-assure myself that the guilt he felt during sex was because of his PTSD and the confusion he d feels with his feelings and not anything else. I flat out asked him.. Is there anyone else you are invloved with? He got annoyed and yelled "No! and why do you keep asking me that?!" I explained to him to anyone that is not familar with PTSD would assume that one would only feel guilty during sex if they are married are involved with someone else. His response in natrual PTSD style " People like who? Ignorant A** Civilians?! They can suck one!" omg. Remind you he is no longer active duty and I get concerned when he starts talking like that. referring to people as civilians etc. I said to him " babe, I am a civilian and I thought the same thing at first.." He then explained, "Yes I know you did and I told you that I dont know why I feel that way while were making love, I'm just telling you what I feel. I know I like it but for some reason I feel guilty. I keep trying everytime hoping each time It will go away but it doesnt. Believe me it bothers the F**k out of me too". Okay as long as he is not cheating and he is not feeling guilty because of something he did sexually related to his trauma I guess I will just deal with it until he sort out his feelings. Boy this PTSD is something else..
 
Sometimes PTSD leads a person to make themselves feel a lot of shame and guilt.

You don't always know you're doing that to yourself, as it can happen at a quieter level under the surface. But then if something happens that gives you lots of joy and happiness - you feel like you aren't allowed to feel that way, and the guilt kicks up. Maybe something like that is happening here.

Or maybe his PTSD is giving him some really hard internal feelings and beliefs around sex.

Big fan of what Jacquie recommended. Cuddling and being present and no goal in mind. Just being.
 
I am a newly retired Army Sargeant. I have had symptoms of PTSD for almost 4 years now. I started therapy in July, so I'm pretty new to the understanding part of this. But I know my symptoms. I feel unworthy, I feel shame. I can't understand why my wife is still here. I am iritable most times so I anger easily. These are not emotions that lead to wanting allot of intimacy. I feel uncomfortable during intimacy. The emotions are overwhelming, and quickly lead to anxiety.

So if you are still occasionally having relations, feel lucky. I haven't in over a year. And my wife doesn't understand either. If only it was as easy as Dee suggests. I could deal with having guilt, if I knew where it was coming from. But that is not the case. I have never cheated on my wife, although there are many who would like to infer, and cause doubt in my wife's mind. Oh well, I have had worse accusations in my life, why not add infidelity to the list I guess.
 
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