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Medications For Teens?

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It seems odd to me that you, as a professional, are seeking advise regarding a client from this website. It has been my experience that therapists consult their colleagues, especially when it comes to medication, in the treatment of their clients. I am inclined to say that this thread is professionally irresponsible and inappropriate. I would be appalled if my therapist consulted this Forum for medication advise for me!

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Ok - there clearly has been a LOT of negative reactions to my post, so allow me to clarify. I am not asking for advice as to what medications to prescibe - that's the psychiatrist's job, not mine. I was, however, looking to understand medication and the whole ptsd experience from a different perspective. I can read about side effects and contra-indications as well as the next person. What I can't do is know how it feels. Some of you can. Whether or not this client ends up on medication is totally out of my hands - if he does, I'd like to be as informed as possible.
I do a lot of training in this area, and work within a trauma team and have ample opportunity to consult with colleagues - and do, on a daily basis.
I'm not arrogant enough to think that I know it all though. I had hoped by posting on this forum that I could learn from the people who know ptsd best. The therapy room is not a space for me to indulge my desire to learn - I can't use that space for my needs obviously. I have learnt a lot just from reading the posts here, but felt that some people might actually appreciate sharing their hard-earned knowledge with me too.
I was open and transparent in my introduction as to my agenda here and so am upset that I have clearly upset some of you. I apologise for that.
However, I am not at all bogus. Ptsd is a complex disorder - I am trying to do the best I can for my clients by informing myself as fully as I can through hearing other people's lived experience.

But I will take your feedback very seriously - I am sorry that my clumsy efforts to explore this topic have offended you so deeply. Honestly.
 
Thanks Anthony for keeping the thread on watch.

I was VERY careful with my first and probably only response to askmenot as things have been a little shaky lately with another thread and I did not want to go down that avenue again. Red flags are waving.....
 
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askmenot,

I am quite happy to share my experience. PTSD is complicated and if sharing my experience helps you help another, especially a child, then I am happy to oblige.

I have had PTSD since I was a young child, but only diagnosed about a year ago. I have not experienced it as severely as your young client has, so may not be all that helpful, but I have two decades of experience with children in counselling, therapy and in the classroom and I am studying psychology.

If I was reaching out to a child like your client, I'd simply make the visits highly predictable with a clear and simple, unchanging approach and easy to meet expectation. If you ask him to connect with you through a piece of string, then have that piece of string in place for every visit, tie it to his chair and to yours before he arrives and encourage him to hold onto it during your visit. If he continues to lock himself away, play the same music or read him the same book or poetry or have the same art activity, even if he doesn’t do it, you do it so he can see that every time, the same thing happens .... If he is that locked up inside then creative distraction would be best.

The reason I suggest this is that it can be very difficult to open up with PTSD. There have been times that my carer has begged me to respond to him during high anxiety. I have intended to, I have full intention to, but I can't get past the freeze in my brain and I can't find the words I need to do it. I'm always hopeful in those moments that he will just wait so that I can make my way through the haze to get to him. If he just lightly holds my hand that helps create a connection and helps bring me back. (although that may be inappropriate for your client) When he does just wait, without impatience, I feel the familiarity of the situation and sometimes I am able to break through, sometimes it takes an hour before I can communicate, sometimes less. The communication is often just sounds and splutters of despair as I really am struggling to feel something, to know something about the experience to share with him, but it is a start and usually leads to a few words.

If you maintain the same approach every time, I would imagine that somewhere in his locked up state, your client will begin to notice the familiar pattern. Predictability is very important for PTSD, from smells, to background noise, to the temperature in the room to the tempo and pitch of your voice – be consistent with him so that he feels the safety of predictability and can think about making his way out. When I am feeling that lost, I don’t want to talk about it, I need a familiar distraction, music is best, I have one track in particular that I put on repeat and that brings me down. My carer will sometimes chat quietly to me about my self and about my dreams – affirming myself to me, telling me how wonderful I am and what my greatest qualities are – that is amazing, it helps to reconnect my emotions and to reintegrate the past with the present.

Another reintegration technique is physical touch. To be stroked firmly on my back from left to right, crossing the midline, is healing and grounding. Then down my arms and legs with brisk strokes. I learnt this when working with a child who had sensory integration disorder. She had to be brushed with a soft brush a couple of times a day to help her desensitise. I had my carer try it on me with a shower brush, It helped release some blocked emotions, I wept and wept. It really worked, perhaps his body needs that kind of help too, perhaps he trusts someone enough to do that for him or you could teach him to do it for himself.

I have no advice on medication.

I’m afraid that is all I have to offer for now. I do hope that you find a way to make him feel safe and help him make his way back to himself.

All the best.
 
There have been times that my carer has begged me to respond to him during high anxiety. I have intended to, I have full intention to, but I can't get past the freeze in my brain and I can't find the words I need to do it. I'm always hopeful in those moments that he will just wait so that I can make my way through the haze to get to him.
Shiraz,
thank you so much for this insight into the 'locked-in' world - your generous words have put form on a lot of guess work for me. I have had the experience (in my own therapy) of being utterly unable to bridge the gap from isolation to connectedness, from silence to giving voice, but not to this extent, or with the same level of physiological arousal involved in ptsd.

And I take your points on the value of predictability, clarity and simplicity. In the whole mess and chaos of pstd it can be easy to get 'sucked into' that energy and to forget the fundementals.

I really, really appreciate hearing about your experience. It has been very reassuring.

Thanks!
 
I too will respond because this is a child and it sounds like there are similarities to my case, reactions and habits--

My drs all talk with each other because I use their different therapies in different ways. So keep up the consultations. A 14 yr old boy is a tough nut to crack in any case but PTSD takes away all the therapies you could do to connect with him. For me, using a string or rope or anything to stay connected with you wouldn't work...too invasive. My t started by giving me tons of room. If you could even sit outside with him in a quiet place that might help. The steps of your office...something.I really started to open up to my t when she talked about her childhood a little. Her struggles to get through school. Nothing traumatic but things that made her more human to me. Loving art, hating math kind of stuff. If he has any history of traveling...maybe use that. People with PTSD don't trust anyone. I didn't trust my friends or spouse or anyone so it took a longggg time to open up about my traumas. There was more dancing around irrelevant things. The one thing my t told me that probably helped break through to me was this- she said when she was younger she would find old plates at garage sales or cheap stores and then find a nice quiet dumpster in an alley. She'd think of the things that made her mad and would throw the plates as hard as she could to smash them in the dumpster. When she told me that I got this feeling that she was ok. That she got angry and handled it well and maybe I can learn to do that. She said she does it a lot with her young clients....telling them she's upset about something and would they go with her to help. Again, it can be done right in the office parking lot. The last piece of advice I can think of right now is don't push the eye contact thing. Yes, it is a big way to gauge connection in therapy but he may not be ready for it for a long time. When he's ready to look at you....he'll let you know. And if you're a for real dr...then you'll know how to look back.
 
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