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Memories Stopped Coming Back

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WillowMarie

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I have been so frustrated lately because I finally have a great trauma therapist that I understands me, but new memories haven't been coming up. (Any suggestions on how to help this along, or where to go from here, please.)

I know when they stopped. I went to a month long residential treatment for self-injury over a month ago. This was before I found the therapist I have now, and had high hopes for the program in understanding my emotions and how to help me with them. Since most people who self-injure have been through trauma, I figured they would get me like no one else has.

I worked so hard to be emotional before I went (I am usually emotionally numb all the time until something comes along that triggers me, or until I get sick of feeling like I am not alive/real and start to let myself feel feelings), opening the floodgates and letting it flow, trying to hold on to any feelings and let myself feel them until I felt that I was drowning in them.

I was talking about things, writing about things, and new memories were popping up.

Nothing related to any serious trauma, just what I like to call "fluff" memories, but some came with emotions.

Anyways, I was at the program, and was letting myself feel the best I could (hate showing others my feelings) and trying to talk about things that came up. Still, it was more like fluff stuff. I remember the first thing that hit me very hard while I was there.

I remembered I wished my parents would get a divorce because I hated my dad so much. The emotions that came with it hit me so hard and I was literally crying off and on the whole day. I ended up going to my room and crying to let it out because I couldn't let myself cry in front of others.

But then there came the time when they wanted me on medication after the first week. They said I was depressed and I would isolate. I didn't want to be on medicine, I had been on stuff before that numbed me out and was terrified that would happen again and then I couldn't work on anything if no feelings were coming up.

And they didn't understand I would isolate because I would go in my room to cry because I couldn't let loose in front of people yet.

And I was terrified by seeing all the medicine that everyone else was on. Most people were on a LOT. Mood stabilizers, stuff to sleep and to suppress nightmares, and anti depressants. I choose this place because they are a firm believer of feeling feelings and I wanted to do that, not just be stuck on medicine to control my emotions.

I felt myself wanting to close off. There were times I reached out and said what I think would help me. Like encouraging me to share, telling me it will be okay and it is okay to feel that way, helping me say the negative (I realized a coping skill is to focus on the strong side of me, portray that, and not say the weak side I hid from everyone)

But they never did. I was on my own in this battle.

I saw how the staff would treat the others and push them and come into their rooms and get them to talk when they were isolating, but they never did that with me. I have trust issues, and this didn't help. It made me feel like an outcast and all alone, that they really didn't care about me.

There was also a time when I started having nightmares the first week. It seemed like all the terror I felt, that I didn't feel when remembering what I do remember with my dad, was coming through in my dreams. It terrified me, but I felt excited because I thought it was a good step, like my body was testing me to see if I could handle it, and maybe something would come up when I am awake.

I was crushed when the staff wanted to put me on something to suppress my nightmares. I thought they were a good step for me.

I stopped having nightmares after that.



In the second week of the program, I was trying to control again how I reacted. I didn't want to show too much emotion because I thought they would think I was crazy and discharge me from the program because I wouldn't follow their recommendations for medicine.


Then I started to become scared that they were going to discharge me because I wasn't making enough progress. That I wasn't doing good enough.

It was horrible.

I also spent the whole time trying to trust people, but then they would say something that threw me back into, I can't trust them, they don't understand me, they don't care about me.

And the whole last week, I felt abandoned and was in an emotional storm. I felt they didn't help me, that no one could help me, and that they didn't care. I felt they were throwing me back to the wolves (real life) and I wasn't ready.

I think now looking back, all that abandonment feelings came back that last week. I was frustrated the whole time I was there when people would say, what does this remind you of? I couldn't remember because I don't have that many memories.




So I came back home and felt defeated, that I didn't work hard enough because I couldn't break down enough barriers, I didn't remember enough to talk about.

I went into autopilot again since I went back to work. I ignored my feelings and just concentrated at tasks at hand. I feel numb again.

Nothing new has come up.

I found a new therapist that works for me.

But I feel frustrated because I feel like I stopped making progress.
 
So now I am in therapy with my new trauma therapist.

She keeps asking if anything new comes up in between sessions. The answer is always no.

I told her I feel shut down and I think that is why. I went back into this autopilot, dissocaited haze.

She told me a session ago that she doesn't think it is that. She had my close my eyes and was repeating things like, your brain is going to give you something, show you something. And talked calmy to me, and told me to talk deep breaths while I was closing my eyes.

I had a flash, an image of my dad, and I knew he was yelling at me. I don't remember what about or whatnot. She was asking me what age I felt, and what my dad looked like. If I knew where we were.

I didn't really have any more details that it gave me. After a bit, she must have realized I started to feel emotions and asked me what I was feeling. I said nervous and scared.

She reminded me that it wasn't happening right now, that there is nothing I need to do. and that I am safe.



That week, I tried positive journaling a few times that it is okay to remember, that I can handle it, and I can remember it is not happening right now. Then I either tried to clear my mind, or let myself cycle through my memories and see if something triggered something new to pop up.

The first time, I started thinking about a memory I already have. I think it was when I was at the dinner table with my dad. I can sometimes feels myself start to fall into a memory and dissociate. I started feeling floaty and I grounded myself my feeling the blankets.

All of a sudden, I must have went somewhere in my mind after I grounded myself.

Next thing I knew I came back from wherever I went. All of a sudden, I was seeing what was in front of me, which I didn't before. (My eyes were open the whole time).

I know I went somewhere but didn't remember any of it. I just have a feeling my body was showing me a memory, but I am not ready to see it yet.



The few other times I tried this, when I started to dissociate, I grounded myself, but I felt each time I grounded myself it took me away from a memory that was trying to pull me under.


I told my therapist this.

She told me for next week to make a timeline of my memories and we will go through that. Maybe we can fill in some holes, or going over stuff will bring more details.


i just don't know how to get back on track with this, I felt so ready to beat this thing and go through all the pain, to heal. But after going through the program I lost my fight. So i slipped back into the numbness I have been living in most of my life.
 
I don't know where you live or what self injury program you went to, but the one I went to was not trauma focused per se. Their goal was to stop the injuring, that's it. It's fair to say that it was actually good that they just focused on the injuring as diving deeper into trauma is beyond their scope.

To be fair, you made an assumption about their program that didn't turn out to be true--- that because many people who SI were abused, that they would understand you better. I don't think you can blame the program as their focus was on SI, not trauma, as not everyone who injures has been traumatized.

I met someone on another site who dug into her memories and it made her worse---a lot worse. Much time passed but she never got back to her baseline. My advice? Don't dig. You're putting yourself at risk for emotional flooding. Your brain is trying to protect you. Trust your brain. When you are ready, your mind will release memories.

And, after treatment I survived on Oreos for two months because my stomach hurt so bad it was all I could eat. My body was rebelling over not getting a SI fix. Point being, Now is probably not the best time to be changing a lot in your life, rather a time to be focusing on not injuring as now you are at the greatest risk for a relapse. Diving into trauma work is not in your best interest as you need to be stable first. And, you haven't been out of the hospital long enough to show a true sense of stability.
 
I don't know where you live or what self injury program you went to, but the one I went to was not trauma focused per se. Their goal was to stop the injuring, that's it. It's fair to say that it was actually good that they just focused on the injuring as diving deeper into trauma is beyond their scope.


The program I went to focuses also on the underlying issues and traumas. That is how it is different from any other program out there. You pretty much talk about trauma all day and they are supposed to help you get through that and teach you how to handle it and urges to self-injure.

Also, I read the book about the program (the two people who started it wrote it) and how it works. And it mentioned most people have had trauma that self-injure, so I did assume, trauma= ptsd type symptoms= they would understand how I worked. Yes, that might have been stupid of me, but it was a last ditch resort because I had a therapist that didn't understand trauma or how to deal with me, and I thought that since she had experience with trauma, she would be able to help me. I started self-injuring again and she said if I didn't stop, I would need to go to a program.

I think she was more trying to trick me or scare me into stopping, but it didn't work. I was so ready to heal and feel safe to dive into things and I didn't feel safe with her. I told her that I wanted to go the the program because they specialize in it and I had looked into it before, but it wasn't in my area.






You're putting yourself at risk for emotional flooding. Your brain is trying to protect you. Trust your brain. When you are ready, your mind will release memories.

I was definitely being emotionally flooded before and during the program I went to. I had in my mind that it was normal and supposed to happen when working through trauma. My therapist now tells me that I don't need to be overwhelmed in order to heal.

I am still in disbelief because I feel like I have shut down emotionally and feel like I haven't made any progress. I know part of it is that I am too hard on myself.


I just feel like I am at a standstill and it frustrates me. I want to heal, to beat this, I hate having triggers and that they affect me. I hate being triggered and feel weak and out of control when it happens. :(
 
You went to the program in St Louis? At least that's where it was last I checked.
 
I actually feel a bit better after my appointment this morning. She read over my list of memories and around what ages they are from. (which was basically split between before junior high (memory very jumbled from then, and I have the least memories of this time), junior high, high school, and after high school) Next week is when we will go into more detail about the memories.

She kept telling me, this is really good, you did really good making the list. It made me feel a bit better.

She kept telling me, even though it may be smaller things or just little pieces I remember, it is good. Because even if little things come up, like not attached to any trauma, it is good because my brain is like, okay, I can handle this, having memories come back. Any memory is a good one to come back.

So she reminded me that even if it is, what I call, "fluff" memories, it is a good thing. So I am trying to remind myself this and am trying to be patient and okay with any progress I make.
 
Uhm, no. They are not well trained in trauma. I don't care that they wrote a book. Yes, I have it. A signed copy, actually, as they were on a book tour and my parents met them while I was in the program. I should burn the damn thing. They over medicated me, gave me diagnosis' I didn't actually have, and when I had a bad reaction to the medication, they literally threw me into lockdown with hard core schizophrenics and criminally insane people, and put me on 6 (yes, SIX) mg of klonopin a day. That's enough to knock out a horse. What was my role in this? I yelled at someone for touching me, and I got into trouble rather than her even though the rules stated no touching. There were two other girls there who were treated the same as me. They didn't do anything all that bad either. It was to the point where my parents told me to spit my meds because I made no sense whatsoever when I spoke to them on the phone.

I have been into two other trauma based programs since and they were completely different. And yes, they helped me immensely.

The program was actually kicked out of their Chicago base after someone died while in their care. I don't even want to know why they left Texas and moved to St Louis.
 
WoW! Thank you for sharing your experience! It actually makes me feel a LOT better about everything because I felt like such a failure. D: I am sorry what you went through that. That makes me angry that you got in trouble for yelling at someone that touched you. If it is a trigger for you (even if it isn't), I don't blame you at all! And like you said, they violated the rules!

I had no idea why they weren't in Chicago anymore. YIKES!


I know personally how they push medicine, too. I spent my first two and a half weeks arguing with them over taking medicine they were trying to prescribe me before they finally dropped it.

I couldn't defend myself that well since I disassociated so much while in the treatment planning while they all ambushed me about the medication debate that I would agree to take it just so I could get out of there. It was a big trigger for me.

I agree with misdiagnosing as well. I mean I believe in the depression diagnosis, but I work really hard to get through it without medicine. Eating and sleeping right, making myself go out and do things.

They kept telling me they could see I was holding back from talking about things, and I said yea, it's trust and stuff like that. They kept telling me the meds would help me not hold back as much. I kept saying, the meds can't make me TRUST someone, that's what I need to work on!

Then the second week after all my meltdowns and freakouts over the medicine, they decided I had bipolar 2. Which I have been diagnosed as bipolar after high school, but they never knew about trauma, I didn't realize it or say it outloud either. But I have been off antidepressants for almost two years, and mood stabilizers even longer, I have been fine (no mood cycling) until I started bringing up and working on my trauma this past Feb.

They also told me that the medicine they were putting me on would help with disassociating. They kept pushing it would help me to open up and not hold back. I kept telling them, how is medicine going to help me trust you?

I also kept telling them, I have TRIGGERS that I react to, I do not have CYCLES for emotions. (besides my regular PMS every month.) Whenever I have big emotional reactions, I can trace it back to something from my childhood even though I don't remember that much. I told them, I might have emotional flashbacks and they all just stared at me like I was crazy.


I agree they didn't really know about trauma and it's affects on emotions. My biggest problem is my dissociation and I could be very dissociated during my one on one therapy at the program. I would try to stay grounded, feet on the floor, sitting up straight, feeling the texture of the chair, and looking around the room. But my brain would still go to mush and I couldn't think, everything would be fuzzy. I would find myself talking slowly since I had trouble thinking but I tried to keep the words coming.

The therapist I had knew I dissociated a lot, I had told her on the first meeting that is a problem for me, but never helped me in the sessions. I even told her the grounding techniques were not working and she kept saying, try more. It was so frustrating. I literally got nothing out of the individual sessions.
 
Maybe you don't trust your therapist yet? It takes a lot to reach that deep down in, drag it out and show it to someone, believing they will give order to that?

I don't believe in over medicating, but I know for me taking meds has blown my mind, ha not literally. I fought them tooth and nail after self medicating for forever, going to a rehab where you can't have advil for a headache and instead you had to talk about your feelings. Once I was on an antidepressant, I was like OMG this is what ya'll walk around and feel like? I was blown away. I don't take benzos or sedatives. I have a January appointment for a a new psych eval (long story) - my meds keep me for the most part from "super bad" but I still have "bad". I would build a relationship (therapeutic, or medical) with someone you can trust to advise you well if you have exhausted every other method of coping. I regret not looking into it sooner.
 
I do trust my therapist so far. I really like her. I have already told her something I have never told anyone else before because it was scary for me to say outloud. And I love how what I say to her, just seems to make sense, or she knows how to respond to it. She doesn't make me feel crazy or irrational like other people/therapists. I have only been seeing her for a little over a month, so you might be right. I am still getting to trust her. But atleast, right now, she is someone I want to trust.


I am glad to hear medicine has worked for you and made a difference. I know there are different types of medicine, and the ones I was on (antidepressant) for the longest time numbed me out more than I already was. It was a relief getting off of them. I am scared of having that happen again.

Maybe I will keep thinking about the medication debate for me.
 
The therapist news is awesome - the bad are SO very bad and the good ones are so awesome! (I have an awesome one too). No pressure on the meds, like I said, if I had known how much they would have helped me in this whole being real thing, I would have done it a ton sooner. I will look forward to hearing some awesome stuff from you in the future! (Woot!)
 
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