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spousecoping

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I finally decided that I needed to talk to people who have gone through what I am going through.

I am the spouse of someone with PTSD...it's been hard, because most of what I find is centered around war-veterans. My husband's trauma is the result of growing up in a war zone with a drunk father and a psychologically (and sometimes physically) abusive mother. In the past, his PTSD has shown up infrequently so it hasn't been too overwhelming. even though the trigger were what I consider bizarre--accusing me of betrayal and showing extreme jealously and insecurity about very random things--it wasn't too much to cope with since it was very isolated incidents. he did always seem to be on a rollar coaster with work issues, but those were easy for me to deal with (or so I thought).

For awhile he was on anti-depressants that effected his libido...things got strained, I had my own things going on (ie the house we renovated together got flooded and completely ruined, workd was making me feel trapped, etc). To tope it off, he "sleepwalks" (for lack of a better word) and wil sometimes grab me inappropriately when I sleep (and he's asleep). The cumulation of his problems, the "sleepwalking" leaving me feeling violated, and me being mentally and emotionally exausted has negatively effected our relationship. We were still the "happy go lucky" couple in public, but there was a stand-offness at home that neither of us could get over. But we still always enjoyed activities together and I really thought things were improving.

Then a few weeks ago he found an old computer (old as in YEARS before we even met) of mine I never threw away. For whatever reason, he decided to go through the files and happened across some racy communication between myself and an ex (it was a long distance relationship). he flipped his lid and is now obsessed over what he views as a connection I had with an ex that he says we never had. Instead of being worried about making OUR relationship more like what it USED to be, he is crazed abotu why our relationship isn't what it was like with this other guy.

Since he discovered the file, a list of grievances a mile long have started to filter out of "betrayals" I done. All for completely insignificant things. And some 25 months old that I was just hearing about that have been on his mind this whole time. Certainly I have room for improvement, but the way he talks you would think I cheated on him. To top it off, every time he comes home from counseling I have to hear about how he's not convinced we are going to make it. how if ONLY I was a better wife, he would have no trigger and could be perfectly capable of living a normal life. how he's sick of the counselor focusing on him rather than fixing ME.

He's quite a remarkable person for managing to do what he has done with his life despite what is probably one of the worse childhoods one could imagine. But it's like this ex incident has sent us over the edge. When he says things to me alluding to our relationhship being over or blaming me for imagined betrayals i become more and more cut off. And the next day all he want to do is tell me he loves me and wants to cuddle, hug, and kiss. As if everything is erased from the night before because he said "I'm sorry."

I really have to wonder if I am of the mold to have a spouse like this. I'm a strong person with a rather independant streak. I have a tendency to be blunt and matter of fact and say exactly the things that probably shouldn't be said. How does one learn to change their way of handling things to deal with these issues? The way he talks to the counselor, you'd think I was a cold, emotionally unavailable wench. I'm probably becoming that person--but what came first, the chicken or the egg?

I feel like I didn't know what I was getting into at the end of the day. How many other people ahve really made it through these things? What can I say, he's done a good job the last few weeks of convincing me this relationship isn't going to go the distance. i went into this whole thing feeling that divorce wasn't an option. Now I dno't know what to think.
 
Sorry for all the typos and spell-os. I was trying to type really quickly and didn't have a chance to proof read anything. Not a good first impression!
 
Welcome to the Forum, Spousecoping.

My heart goes out to you. As a Survivor, I could very well see myself (painfully) in what you have written and I know all too well these scenarios. I'm sorry you are going through such a rough time.

There is one striking element to what you wrote that bothers me and it is not something I experience after seeing my therapist, it's the finger pointing he does to you. I find that after seeing my T that I come home with a fresh view and more balanced idea of what I had previously experienced with my husband, ready to discuss how I plan to move forward, not what he has done wrong in the past.

Of course I cannot know what the therapist says and what your husband chooses to take out of that but I might want to meet with him or her and let them know what you are experiencing. Just my take on it.

Just to let you know, it's hard reading what you wrote. I'm going through a very hard time right now. I hate that to imagine my husband might experience our marriage as painfully as you but I feel it's important to hear it from your side so thank you for being brave enough to post.

(((((((((((hugs)))))))))))
Peace and healing,
Rain
 
That is one thing that is getting me too...isn't counseling supposed to HELP? I'm seeing the counselor, too, and we discussed it briefly. But us going is a new thing. I really think that in his head he thought I was the main problem in the relationship. So when we went to counseling and the counselor picked up immediately on some of these issues and the main cause, I don't think he's handled it well.

I just wish that he never looked through that computer. Things were managed easily enough previously. I still think we should have done counseling a lot sooner, but the last few weeks has just added an entire new element to this whole thing I really don't know what to do from here.
 
To be honest with you, your computer was none of his business. He didn't ask permission and in doing what he did he violated your privacy, on top of it he didn't ask you about it and now is in reaction mode. Do I understand what he is feeling, of course. I would be livid.

If there are things you need to discuss about what he found then this needs to be done. His finding your private conversations with your ex could be the catalyst for you finding your voice and getting your own support. You had noted that things have not been steady for a while and he had been paranoid previously.

You can't undo what's been done. Take care.
Peace,
Rain
 
Spousecoping- I think Srain said it best. Your old files have nothing to do with him, as long as those conversations did not take place while you were with your H. You had a life before him, and he can say "I am jealous" but he can not say "I am angry." He can not hold you accountable for conversations in which you engaged in before he had even met you (or dating rather)- that is very unfair.

But, at the same time I wonder if it is just his way of finding something to hold you further accountable for, since he has made you the cause of your (as a couple) problems. He wen into an old computer expecting what? And now he holds you hostage to things that occurred before you were with him. If it was not the conversations, what else would he have conjured up to use to blame you for? He was invading your privacy. Why?

I am sorry, I do not mean to offend you. I am just offering my point of view. I think it is commendable that you are supporting him and that you are seeking therapy together. I really truly hope that it helps you in your relationship. You are not to blame though. And you are not alone.
 
Dear Spousecoping

Welcome to this amazing forum and the super people on here have been the best help to me.

My hubby sleepwalks and more....and I feel that we have a lot in common...

My hubby is on anti depressants although I have not seen any differnce and ha has been on them for 2 years

I dont know if I can stay on the roller coaster however not sure what choice I have - If I was to leave or ask him to that would be the end I know that for sure.
He would not survive.

After a couple of good days hubby has been in a slump all day. I am hoping that things will get better but I just dont know. Is this our life forever? Its scary and I am so worried for hubby and our son too.

I dont know if I have any answers - however you are (sadly) not alone and there are many amazing other wives and partners on the forum and we seem to have to deal with many simular issues.

Take care

Sunshine xx

PS I am sorry if my messages come accross as down - you would never believe what a positive, bubbly person I am - passionate about personal development and much more.....!!! Yours - trying to be strong ...
 
Well, I guess I don't really think it was invading my privacy. Per say. I didn't elaborate on the whole sequence of events. We were reorganizing the basement together and he pulled the computer out and said he liked the laptop bag...could he use it? Oh, and what should I do with the computer in it? I said "gee, I dunno...whatever...it's an old bugger I have just had sitting around as a backup, but it's been around for so many years I don't even know how useful it would be." Honestly, I didn't even remember ANYTHING like that was on the computer. He didn't ASK to go through it, but if he did I probably wouldn't have thought twice if he said he was going to look at it to see if things were salvageable. Does NOT excuse his subsequent behavior at ALL, but it's not like he was actively trying to go behind my back and snoop.

It's just so hard because 95% of the time (with the exception of the last few weeks), he is just a "normal guy." Definitely not outgoing...obviously doesn't have "close" friends (ie lots of aquaintances he has superficial relationships with), but very successful, functioning, and intelligent.

I really hope that he can get over this string of issues and we can move on. While I hold an understandable "grudge" over the bad things, I know how great things COULD be because they WERE great at one point. This is the first time he's really REALLY acknowledged the PTSD and done intensive counseling to find ways to sort of re-wire his brain. The counselor has explained this process might be a bit like living with an alcoholic....they are never really "cured" and might have a "relapse" every once in awhile, but that the treatment can largely be effective. We really lucked out finding her because she has extensive experience working with clients who happened to go through the same war he did as children.

Yesterday afternoon I basically had a complete meltdown and ended up in urgent care (my doctor couldn't get me in) and I had an "emergency" session with our therapist. She says everything she's seen in me lately is "post secondary trauma" (I think that's that correct term for it--I haven't had time to research it further). Anyhow, I also broke down and accepted a prescription for Xanax. I'm not a fan or relying on drugs, but the difference just one dose made for me was so remarkable I was shocked. It was like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. And my tension and pent up anger towards my husband seemed to abate...I felt like I could just be normal with him last night (of course, he was being on perfect behavior too lol).

My husband is SUPER cagey about taking drugs as well (me just because, him because his father and brother have a history of substance abuse)...but I was wondering...like if he gets so "worked up" from counseling sessions, would some anti-anxiety med just before a session help temper the "overactive brain" that seems to cause the mental breakdown after a session?
 
And I just wanted to say how much I appreciate being able to come here and talk to people. I love all our friends, but the bottom line is that the majority of them lived very privledged upper class lives with very few problems. I have tried to talk to a lot of my girlfiends about this in very vauge terms, and they try to be supportive...but at the end of the day how can someone really understand what it's like to have a husband that watched people die at 12 years old when their main complaint in life is an overbearing mother in-law who just INSISTS on wanting to come over and help them garden. Uhhhhhhhhhh...they really aren't shallow people at all, just have absolutely no concept of dealing with a bipolar mother in law and a husband with PTSD is like.

My husband feels like he doesn't related to virtually anyone from his cultural background, but at the same time cannot develop close enough relationships with the people who have had "normal" lives to share some of these things with. I guess it's a double edged sword.
 
Hi spousecoping, welcome to the forum! I'm with everyone else - he had no business snooping in your old emails (or messages or whatever.) AND he should be mature enough to deal with the fact that you had a life and relationships before him. (Or did he think he was marrying a princess who had spent her life in a tower?) At the same time I am really really sorry you guys are having to go through all this. It is just no fun at all.

It is a rollercoaster ride with PTSD for sure. Skin of a rhino is a pre-req. And treatment will, I'm told, tend to make things worse before they get better.

Don't know how long you have been reading on this site - but I think you will find ALOT of vital information here. I felt a little weird about reading old threads but have found that often they give me just the perspective I need at that time. Also the stickies at the top of the forums are invaluable. Might your husband find some community here too? This thing can be terribly isolating for everyone (there are a few threads in the supporter section of fairly recent vintage on just this topic!) Personally I don't really talk to anyone (other than my grown up girls) about this, and that is a different sort of conversation. Most folks just don't have any basis on which to understand what is going on, or make sense of the efforts to manage and cope.

I know what you mean about the "hold-over" emotions. My H has dissociative episodes in which he Mr. Hyde (and I am some evil person out to get him.) I know that this stuff is just a "brain storm" - but it takes a toll, and it is hard to keep my reactions to the real him unaffected by the evil him. Impossible in fact. I'm not quite sure what to do about it. We are likely going to start some couples therapy - in addition to us each being in individual therapy... Will we have time for anything else??? No answers here - but we've got a lot of the same questions:(.

Best wishes for you both...
 
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