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Relationship Old friendship/new relationship with wounded veteran - please help

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First off, I would like to apologize for the lengthy post. I am currently struggling in my brand new relationship with a PTSD sufferer and don’t know who to talk to. So I signed up for this forum to get these feelings off my chest and see if anybody else has the same experiences and hopefully get some insight into what is happening.

About 12 years ago I started talking to a solider online. At the time he was deployed in Iraq. We talked a lot but didn’t meet in person until a few years later when I happened to be on a road trip in his state. Although we hadn’t talked in a while, we connected again instantly and it was almost like love at first sight. We spent all of my vacation time together and even his friends and neighbors felt that we were perfect together. We ended up changing my travel arrangements for me to stay with him a few more days before returning home. At this time I learned that he had suffered severe trauma and injuries in the military service and was still dealing with depression, nightmares, migraines and other issues. It seemed as if he was getting treatment though and dealing with everything accordingly. Everything was going really well between us. For a second I thought I’d found my soul mate, but then all of a sudden he became very distant. Towards the end of my stay he just went from being extremely excited to have met me and in a lovey-dovey mode to very detached and emotionally unavailable.

Things fell apart and we didn’t speak for over a year. He hurt me really bad and it took me a long time to get over him. Eventually, we connected again through some of his old friends that I had the chance to meet during my visit back in the day. They still cared about me a lot and so they helped us get back in touch. He apologized for how he acted and how he hurt me and reasoned it by being “young and stupid” and that he deeply regretted dismissing me that way, because he in fact felt I was “the one”.

Over the next 5 years we would be in regular contact. Sometimes we wouldn’t speak for a few weeks, other times we would speak daily about anything that was going on in our lives. He helped me get through a very troublesome time, was always there when I needed him and that brought us even closer. I trusted him with my deepest feelings. I would consider him my best friend and my confidant, my go-to person if I was in need or just needed someone to talk to. We would laugh together and joke around with each other like only best friends would. I was able to talk to him about anything. It was so obvious that he was still beating himself up over how he acted towards me in the past and passed up on something that could’ve been so good. For 2 years we had been planning to visit each other, but a 500 mile distance and our careers and personal lives made it difficult so our plans always fell through until just recently. The plan was for me to come spent a long weekend at his house to meet with him and his friends for an annual house party. I went to see him without any expectations, just to reconnect with him and his friends whom I knew from back in the day. Never in a million years did I expect to rekindle old feelings.

I don’t know what to call it other than fate, but when we met again after almost 6 years everything felt as if we didn’t skip a single beat. All of the old emotions came back. It was unbelievable and neither one of us could believe that this was possible. We were so happy and excited that we got another try. He was very adamant about wanting to make things work this time and having learnt his lesson in the past. Our time together was beautiful. He was loving and caring and made me feel like the most beautiful and loved person in this world. Even after I left he would continuously reach out via text, phone calls or facetime. At no point did I even for a second doubt his commitment and love. We decided to give the long distance thing a try.

I went to his house again just a week later. Brought my friend with me and we all had a blast together and it was just as hard to say goodbye as the first time. But after my second visit, something changed that I cannot understand. Maybe two weeks after I left, he again got very detached, stopped calling me and texting me the way he did before. Stopped sharing his feelings with me almost entirely, or it would feel very forced. I immediately got a back flash to 2011 when we first lost each other. I tried to talk to him many times about what could be going on, but he always avoided a conversation. It got so bad that eventually he ignored my phone calls altogether. We had set plans for him to visit me but cancelled his trip the day of with the explanation that he was not well and needed to get him help because he was having bad thoughts. Although I knew that he was still suffering from PTSD, depression, nightmares and migraines, this came as a shock to me. He sounded very troubled, almost suicidal. He is in treatment and is doing counseling, so I thought it was under control. But on top of that he has been dealing with a lot of additional stress and trauma lately: his best friend deploying to Afghanistan, 4 deaths in a matter of a month, financial issues and other things. It was obvious that he was dealing with a lot. I tried to get through to him and be supportive, but our communication really took a dump from that point on. I tried to be there for him through anything but the more I tried, the more he shut down on me.

After giving him a few days without talking at all, I told him I missed my friend and finally he spoke to me. He would plead that nothing had changed between us and that none of what was going on with him had anything to do with us. Yet, everything changed. Given that it was such a young relationship and we had already fallen apart like this before I couldn’t help but be nervous and feel that his feelings for me were gone. I tried many times to talk to him and show him my concern, but he avoided any conversation and I felt there was no way to get through to him. Being in a different state didn’t help my case. So with his approval, I decided to fly out to him to see if being together things would feel normal and I could get a better idea of what was going on with him.

The trip was very eye opening. While he was never rude to me and always took care of me physically (made sure I was okay, cooked me food, took me out, etc.) I felt very much neglected throughout the trip. I honestly cannot remember him ever initiating a kiss or a hug, or even just holding my hand. When in public or surrounded by his friends, he wouldn’t even come near me or even sit next to me; he also barely acknowledged that I was even present. It felt as he was giving his friends more attention than me. When in privacy, we only touched if I initiated it. Something that was always significant about us was our amazing chemistry. We were like best friends with an amazing connection and sex life. All of a sudden, he is no longer seeking my affection. No kisses, no hugs. We would still have sex but one time he even claimed not to be in the mood, which was a complete shock to me. At some point of my stay I felt so emotionally neglected, that I had to walk out of the room and started crying. When he saw me, he simply said that we would have to talk later, as we had company. He turned around and left the room while I was crying. He left without a hug or a kiss or even showing concern about my emotions. This was honestly the most frightening thing I have experienced in a while. That he would be okay seeing me crying and have absolutely no reaction. He just walked away.

I ended up having to leave. I could not take “feeling emotionally neglected” anymore. Him telling me that nothing had changed, yet he wouldn’t come near me, turned down sex and avoided any type of confrontation or conversation.

After calling home in distress a few times, my friend insisted to drive 8 hours to come pick me up. I left late at night and my boyfriend was very perplexed when I told him. “What? Why? How? When” He didn’t say much of anything other than that he was confused and didn’t understand what he did. He then buried his head faced down in the bed with pillows.

I thought for sure this was the end. How could he let me fly across the country just to ignore me. After I had been asking him repeatedly to tell me if there were no feelings left. Why wouldn’t he tell me if he doesn’t want to be with me instead of wasting my time? I felt so humiliated.

Looking back I second guess my decision. I have done some research and I am starting to feel like most of his behavior can be linked to PTSD. When I try to talk to my friends, they tell me to stop making excuses for him. But how he goes from being head over heels into me and being my best friend in the world to just being completely detached and indifferent is not a rational reaction. The fact that this thing has happened twice now – 6 years apart- makes me believe this is something much deeper than just him and I. I know he has been through so much and he continues to face a lot of struggles, and I want to be there for him. But I am not sure how to do that or what my best strategy is in trying to get through to him. At the same time I do not want to be taken advantage of in the process. I want to believe that the person that is crazy about me and that I love being with is the REAL him and that the depressed, indifferent version of him that I have been experiencing is only a product of his depression and PTSD. I realize he will always be a combination of both and that it can never be “fixed”. But mainly I need to know if he just simply doesn’t care about me anymore or if whatever is happening is due to his PTSD and he does in fact still love me.


Please, I am in complete despair over the sudden turn my relationship has taken and I would appreciate any help in this matter. I will be there for him regardless, whether it is as his woman or his friend. But I don’t know how to approach him and how to be there for him without pushing him further away, so any advice will be greatly appreciated. Even similar experiences would help. Thank you in advance.
 
I need to know if he just simply doesn’t care about me anymore or if whatever is happening is due to his PTSD

Most likely both. Emotional numbing is a symptom of PTSD. My veteran sometimes loves me to pieces and other times feels nothing for me. Its SO hard to deal with because you never know when you'll "lose" his love and when it will come back. Sigh!
 
First off, I would like to apologize for the lengthy post. I am currently struggling in my brand...
I also do what he does. I become emotionally unable to cope and push people away. I become so down on myself I feel undeserving of that persons love and so shove them away at times becoming aggressive to frighten them away when I do this, I need space for a bit. Then I need that persons love kindness and understanding as I am unable properly communicate what is happening to me. I just feel fear and am so afraid I'll harm myself or them that I push them from me to keep them safe. No one especially me really wants to hurt them. I just feel they would be safer without me than with me. Perhaps one day I will have all my triggers figured out and then be able to tell people what they are so that I no longer shove people out of !y life. Until then I choose to be alone and lonely instead of being close as I do not wish to hurt anyone.
 
I got about half way through this, sorry, but I can say that with PTSD comes a push/pull. I push people away (I'm a sufferer) for many reasons but one of them is so that I do not hurt them anymore then I already have. It answers why he was emotionally and physically distant when you flew up to see what was up (which is as far as I got in the post but it all sounded exactly the same up to that point - to me anyway).

If you haven't already, read this: The Ptsd Cup Explanation as it answers the remainder of what I read up to that point. A friend going back for another tour, several deaths in a month, that alone would overfill his stress cup majorly. More like 5 stress cups. He cannot take on anything else. Zero. And, when my stress cup is overfilling (a common phrase on the site) then not only am I frantic in my emotions and thoughts but I also, again, push people away. I cannot handle their stuff. Many times their precense alone sends me over the edge. Unsure how that adds to my stress cup other then having severe social anxiety and severe social phobia (basically). So just their presence or calling or texting, just that will sends me of the edge. So thats likely a ton of it.

With a PTSD relationship is a push/pull period. Some of the supporters and sufferers thats been in a PTSD relationship for a very long time also advise about the push/pull. Treated or not, PTSD is never fully "under control". Managed, sure, but one thing in life can make PTSD come alive again. So the push/pull, however that looks for you guys, cam be there no matter what either of you do really. I think it lessens with time in treatment. But it is somewhat always there. Managed can become unmanaged and not managed as well too.

Emotional numbness is also a very real possibilty. I do that as well and its automatic so I don't really have any control over it at the moment and I have been in therapy 8 yrs. I suppose it depends on your verison of "being handled".

I hope that helps some and wasn't a jumbled mess.
 
I think maybe you're trying too hard.

Many of us with PTSD require space. The more a SO pushes, the more we run.

I think a lot of supporters underestimate our disorder because we've become experts at putting our best faces forward at first. They assume therapy and/or meds means everything is a-o-K. ----only to get blindsided later.

Chances are that the push/pull isn't going to go away. It may diminish but it will probably still be around. If you can't handle periods of distance then maybe a PTSD partner isn't the best choice for you.
 
My soon-to-be-ex and I started out long distance as well, and when I flew from the midwest to California to visit him for a long weekend (almost a week, and at his invitation), I almost cut my trip short because of how much he pulled away. I tried to talk to him about it, and he had no idea why I would feel like he didn't want me there. He asked me to not pay attention to his actions (the pushing away), but to his words. (should have been a red flag then already...) Then, when I left (at the appointed time), he once again told me he loved me and would miss me, and hoped I could move to be with him.

I ended up moving to California to be with him, we got married a year and a halfish later. Now, it's been 8 years and we are splitting up, and not because I want it. But, our whole relationship has been riddled with awfulness (pushing away), contrasted with such sweetness it still makes me cry because I miss it (and makes me want to cry when it comes back out, even though he's "done" with our relationship).

@LittleMermaid, this sounds like pretty "typical" push-pull stuff. It can go hand in hand with being with a partner with PTSD. It's painful and it's hard to not take personally (because the attacks can be oh-so-pointed and personal). Be true to you, because that's all you can do.
 
I got about half way through this, sorry, but I can say that with PTSD comes a push/pull. I...
Thank you all for your responses. I will definitely read the article and be more aware of not adding more stress to his life that he is already dealing with. Maybe be a lot more passive. What do you mean by emotional numbness? Is this temporary or permanent?
 
My soon-to-be-ex and I started out long distance as well, and when I flew from the midwest to Califor...
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. Seems like our situations are similar. I went through this situation with him twice now. First the overwhelming, almost too-good-to-be-true connection of finding your soulmate, which is only a few weeks after followed by this slump and complete lack in emotion. I want to be clear, he has never been mean or disrespectful, just passive, indifferent and not as invested as he was just a few weeks ago. It was so confusing and I am trying to do my part to better understand what he is dealing with so I can respond better in the future... I know this will be a life long battle for him.
 
I would add that it's also hard to take care of somebody else's emotional needs when you can't even...
"handle your own emotions?" - just because I am in a relationship with a PTSD sufferer doesn't mean I'm going to master it from the beginning. Nobody warned me of this or anything. He claims he is fine and that nothing is changing. I am doing all of this on my own, the research and educating in hopes of understanding the situation and understanding him better. I do believe it is normal and expected for someone to have a reaction when their brand new partner goes from level 100 commitment to complete indifference within a week or two. I am trying to handle it differently, so I can be more supportive in these times in the future, instead of an added stress.
 
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