People Faking Ptsd

[Jupojo]

If someone uses "mansplaining" in a method that is other than a man explaining something to woman something she already knows in a patronizing way-they're using it the wrong way. That's what the term actually means. If you had said to me that "feminists were just a bunch of men haters, what could I know about it?" that would be mansplaining.

"Manspreading" is when men stretch their legs out as far as possible to take up as many seats as possible. It's pretty basic, and it's only got "man" in it, because men do it more than women do. It's generally just discourteous, especially on cowded buses and trains. That being said, at the end of a long day I've been guilty of it, because I do the "puppet strings cut/trying to melt into floor" slump. Feet being spread is the only thing that keeps me from crumpling to the floor, but on crowded public transit, you wanna bet I try and take up as little space as possible, because that's just courtesy.

Toxic masculinity is when "man up" is used. Because men are human. It's the thing that talks about how men are rapists but can't be raped. It's about how men abuse women yet can't be abused. How men are supposed to hate "talking about it" and never do it. How men are supposed to punch their problems and never ever be affected emotionally. It's about how men as dads do nothing, and women are the only homemakers and caregivers. It's snickering at male nurses and teachers.....It's all the traditional roles that make men feel shitty about being human.

That's why men need feminism. Because that kind of attitude is killing men *and* women.

 

[Ovar]

Not only don't I need feminism, I'd like to see it disappear.

If feminists were truly interested in gender equality, they'd be using the terms femsplaining, femspreading, and toxic femininity with the same frequency as they use the other gender slurs. Or maybe just be willing to point out when someone if any gender is acting in a shitty way, without bringing their gender into it.

 

[Ufi]

Masculinity is the method by which (most) women are attracted to men. Take that away, and you get a society full of women who ask where all the heroes/good men have gone, and a society full of men who can't even get a date and have no idea why. And that's whwere we're headed, and some would say that's where we are now ...

Hmmmm....

I think you have a very limited view of masculinity. I'm a woman, and I like men. I even like dominant men. But an alpha male secure in his male identity is not usually threatened by a woman talking about feminism. Women can be female and be powerful. Men can be male and be powerful. Both can be given equal status, even though the genders are very different.

Men can also want to f*ck other men, and still be masculine. Women can want to f*ck other women, and still be feminine.

Or, men can be feminine and women can be masculine, and they can want to get with whomever they want to get with.

None of this has anything to do with the boss I had who called me sweetheart half the time, while he called my male colleague by his name all the time. I liked my boss. He wasn't even aware he was doing it.

Feminism is me asking him to call me by my name, and him appreciating being told (instead of me being resentful and bad-mouthing him, or quitting).

Feminism is me being able to tell a man, 'no', and not being called a cock-tease.

Feminism is a little girl being able to play with a truck if she wants.

Feminism is being paid the same wage for the same job, regardless of gender.

Notice how feminism isn't just an attitude women have? In fact, it often requires both genders to participate.

Or maybe just be willing to point out when someone if any gender is acting in a shitty way, without bringing their gender into it.

I don't know your gender, and I don't care; but you're way, way over-generalizing feminism, and in my opinion, that's a shitty thing to do.

 

[Uzaf]

Not only don't I need feminism, I'd like to see it disappear.

If feminists were truly interested in gender equality, th...

We actually have the words feminazi and misandrist. In case you missed them. They are the comparatives to MRA and misogynist.

Hey I'm just fighting for you to have equal rights to your children, your wardrobe and your therapist, but if you think that's bad....okay? I mean, I don't agree, because other men could certainly use those, but if you want to be treated as less in a criminal court in assault against a woman because you're a big strong man, I guess that's your right? If you want to lose your kids because only wimmen takes care of kids.... okay? If you want to not have access to therapy because men don't talk they just hit things...okay?

Just seems like a weird philosophy to have in a forum like this.

I'll still support men being able to admit to sexual abuse as equal victims, I'll still support men's domestic abuse shelters and I'll still support equal rights for custody. You can certainly waive yours if you want to, but it seems a bit...self destructive.

 

[Babumen]

Hmm not sure if feminism alwsys affords men the same air space as women (I'm female just to add)
I think humanism is what's needed.
Lose the power games people. It doesn't work for snyone.

 

[Ara]

If someone uses "mansplaining" in a method that is other than a man explaining something to woman something she already...

How is this relevant to this post?

 

[Kowata]

And everyone needs feminism. Men can cry and be victims with dignity then. They can be stay at home dads without shame or...

How is this relevant?

 

[Ovar]

I stand by my statements. Either there are a lot more shitty feminists - who hate me for being a man, who are ready to call me toxic because of the way I sit - than terrific ones, or they're just louder. Regardless, they are the ones who are defining the current debate on gender issues. These feminists are women who are ready to assume the worst about men, and as long as they call themselves feminists, I cannot and will not support feminism.

I'm not saying there aren't shitty men. There are! In fact, most men - most people - are shitty in some ways. Probably in most ways!

Women are not, as a general rule, attracted to non-masculine men. Yes, there are women who don't look for that. They are in the minority. Not one of those women? Great, and good for you. You're in the minority.

If I don't support feminism, does that make me a shitty person? I don't know. Do I support equality for women? Of course I do. Do I want to put a stop to men being shitty to women? Of course. Is it OK if men cry? Knock yourself out, and I won't judge - but most women will.

 

[Ula]

I am female. I think men (in general) think that others are judging them when they cry and that men are hard on themselves about it. Women just don't really know what to do when men cry. Also society has made it hard on men and that's why men have a harder time expressing their emotions. Just my ten cents, take it or leave it.

 

[Veboj]

I am female. I think men (in general) think that others are judging them when they cry and that men are hard on themselves...

That I agree with

 

[Limonog]

How did fakimg ptsd turn into a feminism thread?

 

[Oluwu]

This thread is moving quite far from the original topic of 'People faking PTSD'.

Please try and keep posts relevant to the topic. For those wishing to continue the discussion around 'PTSD and feminism' please consider starting a new thread.

Thanks.

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