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Police Just Brought Sister To My Door.

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I'm to the point where I just want to scream at someone or anyone for the fact that my family is allowed to continually put me through hell with their toxic behavior.

I so relate to this. I even felt it again when I read that letter (no return address, I should have known better to even open it). What I did realize that no one will protect us from the crazies, we have to do it ourselves. The hardest part for me was getting past the mental need to convince people that they were in the wrong. I kept having these conversations in my mind where I went over all the insane things they'd done as if I was speaking to a police officer, or judge or whatever. I finally realized that I was just trying to convince myself. Hell, that was easy, I already knew they were wrong and a threat to me, and once I accepted that, then I found I could move forward and protect myself.

You might need "evidence" for a protection order, but no one, not even law enforcement, can question your rights of self-protection. You don't have to explain why you don't want someone at your house, you simply have to call the police and tell them that there is a trespasser that you want removed. It doesn't matter if it is a relative, a stranger or even Al Queda ;). Now, some cops think they have to sort things out. This is why I am actually glad that my mother pulled her stunt and I was able to brief the cops in a calm environment. I didn't go into everything, and they respected that. I simply told them that there was a long history there and that I had made the adult decision to completely severe ties and under no circumstances wanted anything to do with these people, period. I added, and had them document, that if there was an incident that I might become so flustered that I couldn't talk straight, but to please respect my legal wishes that those people were not invited, are not welcome, and needed to be removed immediately. I also added that I would be very happy to further elaborate and explain anything that the police needed to know, but would only be able to do so in the absence of those people. During his visit, I also insisted on showing, even though he did not request it, the title to my properties so that the cops could document that no one but my husband or myself has any legal claim to be here. My family has often asserted that they have claims to things they don't. Even though they don't even live in this state, they would be the type to say they were part owner of my land just to confuse or delay the police from removing them, forcibly if needed.

I guess if there is any possible silver lining to having dealt with so much crap from stalkers, is that I know all of their tricks and have designed both my life and my property layouts around that. However, those laws only work if you execute them. Involve the police, but know that they have seen so many different scenarios that we can't expect them to understand what is so clear to us.

Practice, or even write out a short statement that you can give to them, even if you're are completely out of it with fear/stress to help them to do their job. Perhaps, prepare a type written note card or short letter that says something like:

Dear Officer:

I welcome and appreciate your involvement in this situation. The background of which is highly emotional, and too drawn out for me to explain clearly and briefly. Please know that by handing you this prepared note that the people I have called you about have no legal claim to be here and that I wish for them to be removed immediately. Please do that, and I hope that I will then be able to calmly and clearly elaborate on any details you would like to clarify.

It is my clear and legal assertion that this person is trespassing and that I want them removed from my property immediately.

Thank you,
(signed by hand) ***Present with id when possible

Keep copies of this note on your fridge, in your purse, your desk office, anywhere that you might find these people harassing you and you fear you might break down. You don't have to explain to law enforcement that you suffer from PTSD. That is irrelevant to the wrong doing of the person who has committed the offense against you. Once you've calmed down, it is enough to say that you just get very emotional about the whole situation and appreciate their understanding and patience. I say this because I've found that PTSD labels pull up all different kinds of reactions for law enforcement. Their experiences with PTSD can range from mild encounters, to very dangerous situations, or even their own suffering. There is no need making yourself the target of doubt or confusion when the person who can to your home or work is clearly the one in the wrong. Help them help you by keeping it simple and just making them get rid of the trespasser.

The exception to this sharing would be if documenting your PTSD would help you obtain a protection order. Then, by all means take affidavits, etc. from Drs., therapists, etc.

I won't kid you and say this will be easy, but we really don't have a choice. They don't stop on their own. We have to stop them.
 
LNF - nothing helpful to add. WTBC seems to know the drill.

I'll just Third or Fourth that your children's safety and security have to be your Absolute First Priority. And you need to get ahead of the crazy curve and get the law on your side. You have fragile children. There is no justification for exposing to this kind of stuff when it can be prevented. You are doing the right thing keeping you and them safe. At the end of the day, adults have to deal with their own problems...

Sending ninja and mommy bear vibes from here too....
 
I just got off the phone with the officer in charge of investigating complaints. They don't know how my address came up in association with her name because they couldn't find any information on me whatsoever when he tried to investigate how it happened. She apparently had been acting up at a store and was trespassed there and was picked up by the cops. I was advised by the officer to think seriously about pursuing an order of protection. So I guess I'll be preparing for that.
 
You are doing the very best you can. Good for you in not allowing her into your house. This is so crazymaking for you and you sure have your hands and heart full and do not need this drama.

I agree that a restraining order is a good idea. Could you call a womans shelter of victim advocate program for help? Use any and all resources.

I wish for this situation to be resolved as soon as possible. I support you fully. You do not need to deal with this ever again. Good for you for being so strong and having such a strong no on your side. I wish you the very best.

This is too stressful of a situation to deal with.
 
At least if you get an order of protection they will see that and not fall for your sister's helplessness. She sounds very manipulative and it sounds like she was able to convince the cops that she "forgot" your address in her "state" of mind. Maybe she told him that it was new and hard to remember. You've seen how she has manipulated the people around her(to put it nicely) and those are people who know her. Imagine how she could manipulate those who aren't aware of her.

Your first order of business is to protect you and your children. They don't need this in their lives. But you know that.

I wish you the strength and the wellness to do what lies ahead of you.
 
I am sorry you had to deal with that. Did the cops know that you didnt want her there i.e. Restraining order or no contact? I know in my town if you dont have either of those the cops will take a person where ever they want. My sons father abused my son so I went into hiding and the day after the Restraining order was up he had gotten drunk and didnt know where he was all he kept saying was my name and the cops unfortunitly brought him to my door. I then took out another restraining order because he id not a person I want around me or my children.

Has anyone tried to put her in the hospital to get help? Maybe someone who has had contact with her more than you could convince a cop to put her in for a phsyc evaluation.

Just thoughts that are popping in my head sorry if you have already tried these things.
 
Thanks to every one for your kindness, suggestions and support. I really do appreciate it so much. I'm in the process right now of getting all the information I need to justify my need for an order of protection. Hopefully it will be granted, but even if it isn't, there's so much there to justify a need for getting her admitted for a psych eval. I'll do what I need to do in order to make sure all of this is on record. If nothing else, it will help the process when her mental health gets worse later on. Thanks again for all your help. Hugs to all of you if that's okay.
 
LNF, You are doing the right thing for you and your immediate family.

If you think of the many incidents in the US if there families did the right thing, we would not have seen them on the news.

I personally would send a copy to her local area mental health office. The courts may ignore. She can't fool everyone.

Best option is to be prepared. She needs help. Many :hugs: and more to come. Whitney
 
Hope for the best and be prepared for the worst. This situation is so complicated, I am so sorry you have to deal with her.

You already have your hands and your heart so full, you do not deserve this. Be safe and be strong. I believe in you, you can do this.

Be prepared for flak from your family over this one.

My daughter is in the process of getting a permanent restraining order from her husband and his attorney keeps calling her attorney and requesting that she drop the restraining order charge.

You have us to walk with you every step of the way. Hugs.
 
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