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Shall I Cut Off Ties From My Toxic Family Forever?? Please Help!!

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I am glad bluerose has apologized. I thought that the comment sounded like something that would come from my suffering codependent family members. Your mom expects you to take mistreatment because of all the "good" your family has done? That must have felt awful to hear and I am sorry your mom can not validate your feelings. From what you have written she may also be caught up in the family sickness.

This is not an excuse for your mom.( I am assuming you have told your mom of your mistreatment.) My mom would say similar things. I stood up and told her how I felt and that she was not validating my feelings. She is better now but without treatment I have to remind her when she is using guilt tactics, manipulating or is pushing boundaries. Its far from perfect but this is where I am right now in the relationship. I am learning to grow into my own. Learning what I need to do for my sanity.

When we grow up in an atmosphere where people do not have respect for boundaries it is extra hard to break free because that is what we have known as acceptable all of our lives. That is until we are lucky enough to see how wrong it is. Run as fast and a far as you can. Illness like this runs in families. I know because I come from a toxic bunch myself. It is hard but necessary to let go of anyone refusing to validate your feelings. Demand to be respected by those you think are worth keeping contact with.

I am not a doctor and hope somehow my post will help you to know you are not alone. I hope you have a therapist to talk to to keep you moving forward. I also learned a lot on you tube about codependency and personality disorders. It can be freeing to learn the truth about the things you are questioning!
 
@therapybankrupt I understand what you're saying I also feel this is where Jess has the opportunity to learn to validate her own feelings. The beginning of self love. I firmly believe we don't "need" others to define our self worth. Self worth/confidence comes from within.

I'm also happy to see Bluerose apologized. She dismissed Jess's abuse based on her one post. There are gentler ways to determine what one is Assuming.
 
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Hi all,


Thanks for your input. I really appreciate those who actually felt what i am going through. I can cry for hours and hours thinking about the past. Any little trigger gets me to the point where i am so upset that I cannot sleep at night. I am having trouble forgetting about the childhood abuse especially all the ill-treatment i had from them and mainly the molestation. I have grown up with having a fear of men, the ones with loud voice (i.e. those who yell, like my mother's brother) and any male touch (i.e. even a hug can get me feel stiff and numb). I have never had a boyfriend. The only guy I ever liked dumped me after 4 days of the relationship because I was guilty for not telling my mother about him and I was feeling disgusted whenever he tried hugging me or holding my hand. The worst part is that my childhood pedophile still lives near by and we still get to meet few times a month because he is related to my mum. Secondly, I don't fit in this family due to their culture and their beliefs towards women. I hate living with such people who discriminate women. Being a woman in the so called culture where i come from is not easy. Yes, I am still living at my mothers house although i am in my mid-20s because in this so called culture girls don't leave home until they are married. But I am trying to find a job related to my study. The reason I could not leave the house while study was that i was working while studying to pay for my university fee till my Bachelors (Hons) and then did masters in Engineering (which completed this year) with a scholarship. But I can not leave this house until I get a job (which i am starting to look for). Yes, I have been in therapy for 3 months but I cannot afford it at the moment since each session is $160 and I don't have a job. However, I will get back to therapy once I am employed. What really sucks is that I am having trouble being in a relationship with a guy. I want to fall in love, i want to feel all the emotions and the sad thing is that my barriers and the defense mechanism is not letting me get past. Hugging or holding hands with a guy seems a big deal let alone sex. I get into bad memories when i was molested. The worst thing is seeing the Pedo around and him always trying to hug me or shake hands, I try pushing him away but he f****ing does not understand. I am thinking of slapping him. Seriously, this bast***D does not understand my boundaries. Another sad thing is that it is his wife (mums sister) who was being B**** to me all these years, and whenever I try telling her pervert husband off she stands in the way. You know the funny things that this a$$hole (pedo) ran away when his wife (i.e. my mothers sister) was 8 months pregnant with their first child. Then he comes back after 2 yrs and she accepts him back (huh!! I can see a lack of self respect this woman has ). I really don't like these people tbh.

On the other hand it is my mums brother who is the biggest jerk i have encountered in my entire life, he was responsible for me working at the age of 12. He always taunted my mother since she was working under a work permit at his restaurant. It was him who forcefully made me work. On top of that he would swear at me after finishing work. He would humiliate me in front of people. He even told my father to kick me out of the house. It was ironic when his own daughter made him divorce his first wife and kicked him out of his own house. Although this moron has a lot of money but one of biggest a***** on earth. He always puts me off for being educated and tells me that i am qualified because of my ego. I have done all this study to show off and to carry an extra stick on my head. The funny thing is that his own kids went to those private schools for riches but both failed a lot. His daughter could not even pass her final year in her high school therefore she had to take foundation course at university to become a primary teacher ( i have nothing against being a primary teacher but what i am trying to point out here is how these people treated me). His son is at university studying property but failing. Yet this a**** is telling me off for doing masters. Another thing, the a**** uncle always taunted my mother that I (i.e. me, the writer of this post) will run away with a guy at the age of 16 and will become a hairdresser. Now that i have not done any of that, he tells me that "you will either become a nun or a nymph". See how hurtful these people are??? He (mothers brother) himself has been cheating his first wife, then his own daughter made him get a divorce with his own wife and kicked him out of their house. After his first relationship, he finds another woman for 13 yrs, then leaves her because she has become too old for him and not up to his standards. Now he is with a third woman, which he got an arranged marriage to, she is 21 yrs younger than him (he is 52). He always told me if you lived in that country in poverty, you would've also married a guy in his mid-50s to get out of their, these are his excuses to validate himself. (NOTE: Although he has been with 3 women officially, he has been doing a lot of sleeping around, basically he cheated on all these women with a lot of other women!)

You know the worst part of all my misery is that my mother is letting them pee on my head. She is not stopping them but me. I am made to shut up and go to my room yet she does not have the guts to tell her A**** brother off, neither stop her sister or her pedophile brother-in-law. Just because we came to this country because of them and they are her relatives. I believe, it is better to be alone than having such toxic relationships n people around. I am only going to escape from this house now and that is it. Lastly, whenever I have other bad experiences out of the house, my mother uses those experiences against me to manipulate me that the world outside is dangerous and there are bad people outside and i can be raped. Huh!! it is better to live outside then with these people where you are mentally raped each and every single moment of your life.

Lastly, I will get therapy for sexual abuse and PTSD. I really want to fall in love but all these issues are stopping me. My biggest concern is whether the guy i go out with will accept me because of my past and all the ill-treatment i got. I told everything to my past guy and he dumped me after 4 days. Btw i knew that guy for 3 months before starting the relationship. Please help!


Thanks for reading and replying on my post :)
 
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my mother uses those experiences against me to manipulate me that the world outside is dangerous and there are bad people outside and i can be raped. Huh!! it is better to live outside then with these people where you are mentally raped each and every single moment of your life.

Welcome!

I like your spirit! First off I want to congratulate you for understanding the dysfunction surrounding you. You are battling a culture stacked against you as well. You're brave. Don't forget that. Ever! :)

We can't control others can we? Sounds like your mother can't validate her own feelings. That's why yours are going unnoticed. It's up to you Jess. Stay in school. Google everything related to dysfunction. What you need to know will jump out at you.

You can't stop their insults. I know it hurts but try to see it for what it is. Their problem. Let them swim in the fishbowl alone while you make something for yourself. Focus your energy there. Mentally switch them off. You can do this.

I don't know what country you live in however what you describe leads me to believe your mother is correct ONLY I repeat ONLY in you're safer staying with her. Oppressive cultures against women are indeed dangerous. Do not underestimate that. Do you have any friends you can stay with?
 
@ Survivor2thriver:

I come from an Asian country and now I hate my own kind tbh! Now living in Australian continent.

I came here when I was 12 and first time I came here when I was as 9 for a visit (when I was molested). I have lived here more than half of my age. Although my relatives are living here in this country (out of the village in Asia) but their mind set is still set back in where they come from. They still think like villagers and have a narrow mindset. Therefore, I have already given up arguing with such idiots (I am not trying to state that i am any superior after all that education but the way they think makes them who they are). I strongly believe, that you are what you think and practice, no such amount of education, money, status or prestige can define who you are... it is your actions that speak and their actions are certainly stating that they are narrow minded idiots and I have given up on them. I am trying to spend energy on being healthier and happier me. I exercise regularly and in a great shape (not trying to sell myself).

I have worked hard all these years, supported my mother financially when she bought her restaurant from all the money I earned from the age of 12-18. From the age of 18 onwards, I worked to save for my education, I paid all my university fee and now debt free. I am not dependent on anyone and no M****** F********ing A****hole is my savior and I don't owe any of them anything. I will escape from this, may it be in 3 months or 6 months but the change will take place in 2014. I don't want to live in this misery. If I am given two choice: live in freedom for few years and die in 3-4 yrs OR live with them and die each day. I'd choose freedom and death over the life these A******** have given. Pardon my language.

Lastly, thanks for your kind input towards helping me :)
 
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I am also having trouble being nice to these relatives. Although my mother stops me from ignoring them, or not sharing my things with them when asked but I can't help it but disliking them and not doing them any favors. But in the end I am considered rude and made feel guilty.
 
Jess,you've already proved you are intelligent. You don't want to be like them. Your anger stems from your efforts to break the cycle. Look at it like this...all the anger you feel is the result of their illiness's. Don't allow it to affect you. Be realistic. You can't change their mindset. It's too ingrained. You're going to have to learn appeasement until you can get the hell out of there.
 
Survivor2Thriver:


Thanks for your warm regards. Yes, you are right and I should be investing my energy on myself than them. Lastly, I always have this concern for not having close friends. All the friends I ever make are just temporary people who are just there for the time being. Once they find out about my past they either abandon me, make fun of me or try using me. Even I don't tell them anything about my past they are just hello and hi type of people, more of formality. I just don't have friends.

Thanks
 
JT1,
I'm sorry for what you're going through. I, too am from an Asian family. I understand the narrow point of views that can be imposed upon you. Asian logic didn't always equate with western logic. Bee true to yourself. That's the most important thing. Life is to short to placate to everyone's ideas.

As for your friends:I know what it's like to hide your illness. There is still a stigma in society with having a mental illness. Very few of my friends know I suffer from a mental illness. I understand your reluctance to open up. If those people ran away from you because of your illness, doesn't that show that they weren't your friends to begin with? Maybe I'm being too blunt. It's just my 2 cents worth.

I hope you find peace and happiness. You deserve it after all you've been through.
 
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