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Well, it might very well affect your grade...you might get a better one, if you show them that you're there to learn. Look, the vast majority of profs I ran onto were there to see you get your every dime's worth. When you meet with them after class or by appointment, you're showing them that you care to learn and are there to get you dime's worth as well.

They hate standing up there lecturing to young people looking out the window, checking their texts and other stupid behaviour. They feel like they aren't earning their pay. When a student is attentive and asks questions when they don't understand, the profs like it very much.

Yes, every discipline has a prof that is the "gate keeper". His job is to make sure students know the study matter. If we don't, he flunks us. He doesn't talk to students after class or make appointments. My gatekeeper flunked me twice before I finally squeaked by with a marginal "C". But he damn well heard from me as my arm was always in the air, wanting to ask a question and he damned well knew I wanted to learn.

Education isn't a destination, it's part of the journey. Hell, if you have to, be the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

Sarg
 
Thanks guy's this problem has been bugging me for days now. I might me on to something though! I am taking two classes right now business law and sociology. I was able to understand the sociology because I could listen to the text and read along at the same time. Take one or the other away and I am lost. With that being seid I will probably e-mail the proffesor and ask if they have the book in audio format as well. I take my classes on line so it is vary hard to establish a relationship with the proffesor. It's not like posting here, he has not been through what we have. Although I am not positive, It makes me uncomfortable.
 
I like Sarg's advice. I'll be telling my prof's day one in private. They'll appreciate more mature students. I know reading will be hard. I already know that I can't take tests with any noise in the room. I've had to always wait for everyone to get quiet or finish to be able to focus on any tests since Iraq.
 
............the Uni obviously completely understood; it was a very difficult thing to do. As a result I can get assignment extensions more easily, mitigating circumstance (I can re-take if I am not happy with result!), smaller less people room for exams and my lecturers are aware I may walk out lectures randomly...................

I wish I had of known I had PTSD when I started my Master Mech. 2 years of Schooling, Theory and Practical Mechanics.

The Anxiety and Angression used to show their heads all to often. Being the oldest on the course by allmost 10 years, I lost it with a younger guy after he bumped into me and didn`t appologise. The course just stood there ":eek: WTF is he doing?" while I punched this guy into a corner. Funnily enough it took an Afghan and a Croat to drag me off him.



3/4 of the course wouldn`t even sit next to me after that.

And I still hadn`t a clue that something was wrong we me.

What with that and arguing why I had got stuff down in time to hand in was a F*cking nightmare, but then telling a Lecturer who only has a few months left before he retires that what he is teaching is wrong and a load of bollock`s doesn`t help either.

But then what ever shit we were doing at the time, I allways went and got a book on it, for exactly the same reason Marc brother.
 
I started school and was interrupted by the draft calling because I was out of phase from my Dad being transferred. So the draft was nipping at my heels. So I went and got it over with.
When I got back I never knew I had battle fatigue (the name then) but my Dad, a WWII vet, diagnosed me Day One. He said just one thing: one step at a time. A few times I took on too many courses just because the adviser said you had to. Know when to relax and take breaks. You need them more than other college students. Do not feel guilty about it. Stay away from the hangouts like the Student Center. They waste time. Study two places other than your dorm if that's where you are and one place should be the library. Walk, walk, walk. Enjoy the women. They are worth spending the time. And party but not too much. Set aside Saturday morning to review the week's classes and review notes. Update them. Read every night at the library as if it were the barracks. Do not skip breakfast or lunch. Light dinner.
Most important, never cram for tests. Build up the knowledge so you do not have to cram the night before.
Intramural sports helps you socialize and keep fit. Do it.

Get counseling if you need it and you probably do. Avoid time wasting friends by developing good ones that can nurture you, not hold you back. Always be willing to talk about your feelings openly and proudly but don't tell "There I was stories." They are boring and scare away good friends. Only tell them to other vets. They won't believe them either. Hehe.

I did it in 3 years. You can too. You will never have this chance to have so much fun in your life.

Go to grad school.
 
Marc,

What everyone above has said. Here are my additions/repetitions:

I started my degree before joining and completed it after getting off active duty. I quickly noticed that my mind was not quite the sponge it used to be. At the time, I thought that I had not been using my brain as much and had lost some of its ability. Getting to the point of going to them took me eating some personal humble pie. However, when I went to my professor’s office hours and spoke privately with each of them, told them that I was recently out of the military and was struggling a bit with studying. Every one of them listened, cut me some slack, and offered their assistance. You don’t need to air all of your dirty laundry to them, just tell them the basic problems, a little history, and work with them to find the solution.

I was given the honor of being asked to be an adjunct professor at a local university. I taught there from 2005-2010. I was (as Sarg so aptly called them) one of the Gate Keepers. I was a hard ass. The funny thing is that I was just starting to be kicked in the ass by the Beast at just the same time! I definitely made it difficult for my students to approach me, but most of them did at some point. I have to tell you, as an instructor, I had much more empathy for the student who came to me early in the semester asking for help or giving me excuses as to why there were unable to complete something, than the students who came to me two days before the final...

Even the Gate Keepers are there to impart their knowledge into you. They want you to learn the topic. But they want you to earn the knowledge. Being proactive with the Gate Keeper type is probably the best thing that you can do. It shows that you want to learn. That you are putting in the effort. However, they might not cut you any slack. :-)

“I take my classes online so it is very hard to establish a relationship with the professor.”

Although internet learning is the new rage, and it gives people who would not have the opportunity to learn the ability to do so, I personally have issues with it for this very reason. Shooting electrons at people is not relating to those people. The internet is a very lonely place. It makes people do things and act in ways they would never act if actually standing in front of another person. However, the people on the other end of those electrons are people. Just look at this forum. A bunch of broken monkeys sitting in their respective cells. Some days, we decide to fling poo at each other. Some days we rant and rave. But on any given day, there is at least one of us around to lend an ear, and help pick you up. Remember that your professors are no better and no worse.

Not every subject is going to be exciting to you and your brain. Everyone, PTSD or not, struggles with this. So don’t let yourself get into a death spiral because of that. Just tough it out soldier!

As for techniques:

An excellent guide is
13 Steps To Studying

Ms. Kesselman-Turkel does a much better job at explaining it than I can, but here are a few other pointers.

As stated above; exercise. You said

“Exercise seems to help with motivation but not concentration.”

While this may be true for you, sometimes looks are deceiving. Dead Link Removed at the University of Illinois, has shown that children taking test immediately after 20 minutes of aerobic exercise increases their cognitive control (ability to pay attention). In that study reading comprehension increased as much as a full grade level, but that spelling and mathematical ability does not see much improvement.

Remove Distractions. All day you are running around doing errands, moving between classes, etc. As you suffer from PTSD this means that your stress cup is getting fuller and fuller. Getting home and trying to crack open a book in this condition will not end in a good learning. Humans are actually very poor at Link Removed, but it makes us feel good. So, try to clear your mind and remove distractions. Turn off the music, turn off the TV, turn off your phone, don’t study where the kids or pets or whatever are around. Try studying at library or a secluded park.

Study in small chunks. See Step 9 of the 13 steps. I can’t tell you how much this worked for me. I also took a Speed Reading course. It sounds like lunacy, but it actually helps concentration and retention of the material! So keep trying to study in small increments, a couple of pages at a time. If you can, read the material twice or more. As we have all learned in the military, repetition works. “1,000 jumping jacks, by the four count. Ready? Begin!”

Finally, remember, you are not alone in this. You are not the first, nor the last to experience what you are experiencing. And to quote my son’s favorite cartoon Bob the Builder.

Bob asks, “Can we fix it?”
His friends say, “Yes we can!”

Hang tough brother,

Fargo
 
When I studied for my military advancement tests, I'd read the text out loud and record it. I'd later play it back when I was occupied doing other things and when I went to bed. My reading comprehension was good back then, but it stuck a lot better with listening to it later.

I tried the VA VOC rehab after I got out, but couldn't concentrate for crap. I just wish I'd remembered to try the above trick, I might have been able to keep going to college.
 
Fargo, I would imagine you did not have trouble with long writing assignments. Although long you had listed a lot of helpful information. I e-mailed my proffesor and now I know what kind of person he is. For one he wrote the book and not just figuratively, he is the auther. 2 he biched at me for emailing him rather then posting my issue in the public discussion board. 3 he believes that no one deserves an "A" unless they make a vital contribution to the legal world. I am just trying to get through this assholes class. I am an IT major not business law and though the degree plan requires me to take business law, I am most likely not going to need it after college.
 
Heh,

Well, for the longest time I was the silent type, but once the damn broke...

As for your prof.
1) It is sometimes good to get information from the ass's mouth. Sometimes not.

2) Not sure what you said to him in the email. If you talked about your veteran status and personal learning issues with him. That should NEVER be put onto a public discussion area. As a lawyer he should know that. If however, you were discussing problems with the material, that is a separate matter.

3) A "C" is an average grade. If you do the minimum work, and do it as assigned...C. If you do more than the minimum work or do it with more than average skill...B. If you do more than the usual work, with panache...A.

My advice with this guy is learn what he wants. Give him as close to that as possible, then get on with the core of your degree.

Again, this is typical higher learning politics. Something that drove me away from teaching...

Fargo
 
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