So Out Of It And Dizzy

[Srain]

Iam, I had to laugh when you said your boys were born in Oregon!! I knew friend I had that was so crazed with the notion of being native born but because she hadn't moved there until she was 9mos old she obsessed with it and depressed over it :whistling:, frankly I found the whole thing bizarre. I couldn't wait to get out of there myself. to be honest, though I still have family in that area that just love it!

I thoroughly get what you say now about the "loans" being between your son and his father. It snapped back my memory and what you had wrote about that and the message being to YOU. That's the hurtful thing and the men acting like boys again...it works to try to manipulate mom instead of standing up to dad to say what they need to. Father/son relationships can be just as complicated as mother/daughter relationships.

So happy to take your load ;) Go play!!! You've earned it :tup:

hugs,
Rain

 

[Iam]

They take these side tracks, go off the rails, hate us, are resentful ( sorry-understatement), but seriously- it IS the moral GPS you programmed in them by being a GOOD MOTHER which brings them back eventually to themselves- which they'll see when their dust settles. I'm serious- I see it again and again

you just can't stop men peeing on each other's legs sometimes. They're doing that man thing of peeing on each other's legs and you're getting splashed. Humph. Let them have at it, maybe take a shower.

I had to pick out the funny comments because you always make me laugh Annie ;o) I really appreciate the reminder that they will eventually come back to what they were taught. I sure hope so.

I am doing better....guess going back on the half dosage of my wellbutrin is helping. Plus just plain venting helps! I am over the anger about our youngest son. Still angry at the middle one about his attitude and vm. That will abate when we talk things out. He is returning from Tahoe today so I am sure we'll talk within a day or two. His Dad is still very angry about it as well. Should be interesting to say the least!

Thanks again for the encouragement and wise words.

 

[anni]

Hee- well I don't know about the whole wise thing, but glad if it helped. If you've been married way too many times like I have you've just also spent an awful lot of time around men, that's all. They just plain do that stupid guy thing of who can out-testosterone the other one sometimes and you can't reason with them when their p*nis is stuck in their ear. I always just let them pee on whatever territory they're currently arguing about or each other and come back when all the body parts have been put back into the pants again.

I'm glad you're feeling a ton better and you distracted me with your half dose thing. I tried something ages and ages ago which worked so still do it- this doc says everyone is different so whatever works. My Zoloft is also a teeny dose but really effective that way- interesting huh? I'd given UP on SSRI's because they made me drippy and zoned-repetitive behaviour and thoughts, just loathed the stuff and thought well, will ramp up then maybe. I started this teeny dose, got relief with almost zero side effects ( songs stick in my head-maddening but will live with it but that's it ) so have stayed with that for years now. Had docs say there's no way it should 'work', this one says sure it can-everyone's chemistry is different. Just got interested that you tried a lower dose and have relief also.

Anyway- sorry for he ramble. Got up at silly o'clock as another member hilariously calls 4 a.m. so a little punch drunk. Just glad to see things sorting themselves out with your sons, body parts back in their pockets, and you have some peace. You really do so much deserve it, Iam. MUCH hugs.