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I firmly believe that doing ANYTHING that takes the focus off of ourselves/symptoms/feelings is far bette...
I completely agree. I've been guilty of this in the past. It's very easy to think trauma has ruined your life in every way and every bad thing is because of your trauma. Then I started to look around and realized people without trauma and PTSD have complex challenging lives and difficult emotions, too. In some ways they have it worse because they don't have something big to blame their shitty moods on! Lol

I tried the store bought hula hoops, but they were too small and too light. I learned how to...
Omg this cracks me up. You are a serious hula hooper. I can see how that would be meditative and burn off anxious energy and lift a depressed mood. What a cool idea.
 
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I found learning new languages (language apps) ever so effective at reducing intense anxiety.
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Yes! This is a great one. I spent a lot of time studying science to avoid my PTSD first time around. Got through a lot of years just studying. It had to be something very hard or else my mind would wander back to dark obsessive trauma thoughts. I can see how learning a language would be the same help.
 
I don't know if this relates to any of this but I'm going to throw it out there. If it doesn't, just ignore me.

I get started doing some of these things - ok, well...not these things, but you know what I mean - and I lose interest very quickly. Like, within just a few minutes. It's a kind of dull, physical, can't-do-this-anymore. I know it's depression, but everyone - I mean, everyone, including the therapist I was seeing before I insisted on a break - keeps telling me I just have to force myself to do things. It truly doesn't work. It's like putting a round peg in a square hole. I end up in tears or collapsed in inaction.
 
I don't know if this relates to any of this but I'm going to throw it out there. If it doesn't, just...
That sounds so hard. That's depression and I don't have any tricks in the shed for that. Ive only been depressed with PTSD and that tends to be brief and cycle with adrenaline/anxiety and obsessive ruminating about trauma. If I were stuck in a depression I would medicate myself until I had the energy back to start doing things like exercise and hobbies that helped with my mood. I know it's not always that simple. When PTSD came back to me a few years ago I was in a depression for 2 months that was simply unreal. I had no idea depression could be that severe. I truly empathize with anyone that deals with that ongoing. Glad you have a therapist to work with you. Hang in there.
 
That sounds so hard. That's depression and I don't have any tricks in the shed for that. Ive only been dep...

Thanks. Actually, I don't have a therapist. We took a break a couple of months ago because I wasn't feeling safe there and he wasn't helping (long story that I've posted elsewhere here about) and I haven't been able to get back to it/him. I've tried, but he seems to think that I have all the answers within me and I guess I'm just too stubborn or something to find them.

I've been on multiple medications. Nothing helps for long. The only thing that ever helped for an extended period of time I can't afford and am unable to get assistance for.
 
@whiteraven I also think that you are dealing with depression. Having a schedule and keeping to it is something that you may want to try. And doing things, even after you lose interest. In other words, fake it, till you make it.
 
@whiteraven I also think that you are dealing with depression. Having a schedule an...

Oh, I'm sure I'm dealing with depression. This is a long-standing thing for me. It's just never been this bad. And I've had periods where I've been able to find a small amount of relief before, but this is ongoing for a very long time. I do work (and hate it), which puts me on a schedule every day, all day long, but that accounts for a huge amount of stress. I've heard the "do it anyway, even if you don't feel like it," and while I understand the sentiment behind that, it really hasn't helped in making things any better.

I'm not sure if the idea behind that notion is you just stay active until you just naturally start to feel better (because nothing is permanent) OR that the activity should help improve the way you feel. In either case, it hasn't worked for me, and I have actively tried. Numerous times. Repeatedly. What ends up happening is I do stuff - work around the house, going out shopping (or whatever) - and I feel MISERABLE the whole time, and when I'm done, I'm physically and emotionally exhausted and usually spend an hour in tears because I forced myself to do something I didn't want to do in the first place (even if it's something I normally enjoy).

So...basically, I'm surviving. I'm keeping myself alive because everybody thinks that's what I should do.
 
A friend and I play bean bag toss, you know, when you try to get the bean bag into the hole in a box? We can do this for about half an hour and then he gets tired, so we go do something else that is fun then. Having fun is so important. Whatever kind of play activities you can get into, it helps.
 
What ends up happening is I do stuff - work around the house, going out shopping (or whatever
Have you tried choosing things that have potential ylti be fun or relaxing? To you as you are how that is, rather than forcing yourself to something that you might very enjoyed in the past but don't want to do now.

Like being around animals / childten / nature / be somewhere beautiful / anything at all that could possibly feed you rather than drain you?
 
I wasn't able to sustain the whole fake it til you make it scene and no longer make myself participate. I strongly feel that's one of the main things that took me down. I'd been MADE to fake it for so long to save the asses of abusers and such, I think I grew to strongly resent it subconsciously. My body and brain clearly knew I was faking and numbing/charging/calming/energizing myself via meds (for anxiety, adhd, severe depression, insomnia, nervous stomach, etc., etc.) just to please others and meet their ongoing demands while regularly casting my own needs and health aside.

Sure, it lasted for a while, pleased a few folks along the way personally and professionally, and I managed to appear functional to others, key word being "appear", but it ate away at my inner and outer being like a mofo and created symptoms that the professionals were happy to label as many other things that required yet another prescription of some sort. The pills they prescribed more often than not served to complicate the overall issues rather than help as I quickly learned pills don't teach skills. I had hoped so badly that I could just take something and get on with my days, but my body was letting me know in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to allow that. I had to totally unlearn what I thought I (and others) knew and re-learn self from the inside out, and I'm still working on it, and always will be, it seems, as shift is constantly happening.

For the movement portion of my days, I had to make it fun and inviting for myself, or I'd never partake. I also had to make it accessible within my own living space because some days I simply can't, or don't wish to venture out among people, no matter how helpful it would be. I found a used mini-trampoline via craigslist and made it part of my living room decor. I also learned to make hula hoops, which is a great conversation starter, can be done individually or with others, and ended up being much more fun than I ever imagined. It's also another reason I love nature so much. So much beauty, growth, life, death, transition, etc. to explore and it doesn't require another person or substance to make it possible.

My point is no one I sought out for answers and help in the medication arena was able to help me nearly as much as I eventually was forced to help myself once my health began rapidly declining and it felt like it was all falling down around me and I was left desperate for more answers with no choices left in the medical and mental health arenas. Meds help many, but I wasn't one of them. Although my falling apart was made much kinder thanks to having a husband willing to support my efforts and help me meet my basic needs. Every person's mileage, motivation, and circumstances vary. I hope something soon lifts your spirits and creates some forward momentum to ease your suffering.
 
Would you say basically @Tornadic Thoughts that things got really bad for you and the help offered made things worse and things then got so bad you decided to bugger what everyone else says and figure out for yourself how to get better?

I would say that happened for me recently...
Very happy about it I am too as seem to be making good progress for the first time time I can remember.
 
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