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Spiritual Abuse From Toxic Christianity.

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Thanks gizmo I needed to hear that and I do accept your hug. To me what hurt the most was when I realized that those teachers and the church in general were not looking out for my best interest. I had been taught to respect my elders and that the church was like a community within itself.

I had a interesting relationship the teachers and the other elders of the church. I wanted to please them and be the best student but at the same time I somewhat hated them.
 
I had been taught to respect my elders
That's the way I had been taught too. It's scary when you are brought up as a young child to think one way that you believe in your heart to be the ultimate truth in the world, and that trust is broken so drastically when you realize things are not right. Things are just not the way they seem, and they shouldn't be doing the stuff they are doing to people. Your conscience kicks in, despite the fact that theirs doesn't. You know things are wrong. It's amazing how you realize that the environment you are in is toxic, yet you are still young. It's so sad too, because they are your protection from the world.

They really a menace to society the way they operate. I think its horrible, but I am only seeing a partial view. So I'm skewed I suppose. Many people would say that there are a lot of positive things that come out of these cults. I don't know. I just see how my aunt acts and it scares me.
 
That's the way I had been taught too. It's scary when you are brought up as a young child to think one way that you believe in your heart to be the ultimate truth in the world, and that trust is broken so drastically when you realize things are not right. Things are just not the way they seem, and they shouldn't be doing the stuff they are doing to people. Your conscience kicks in, despite the fact that theirs doesn't. You know things are wrong. It's amazing how you realize that the environment you are in is toxic, yet you are still young. It's so sad too, because they are your protection from the world.

Exactly, you know something is wrong but at the same time they are your role models and protectors. So you doubt and suppress your own feeling and thoughts only to find out later that they were correct.
 
three, I am so very proud of you. I celebrate anyone who manages to escape and begin to become your authentic self. Good for you.
 
Gizmo - love that you started this thread.

I was a really devout Christian for about 15 years. I became a christian after dealing with some spiritual weirdness. I was scared of the shadows and the darkness that seemed to follow me wherever I went and everyone told me Jesus would protect me. At one point I had joined a smaller Baptist church with a close friend who's family was well-established there and encouraged me to do so. This was many years before I was diagnosed as Bipolar II and C-PTSD. My moods were all over the place and I was very overweight.

In the mid 1990's I went through 2 'exorcisms' and eventually labeled as a "problem" and the entire church except for my friend turned their backs on me. They swore that I "manifested" demonically during one of these exorcisms but my therapist said I probably dissociated under all the scrutiny and spiritual pressure. They felt there were demonic influences in my life and I was bringing them into the church. No one would talk to me, acknowledge my existance or look me in the eye when I went to church. They would look past or through me.

My friend's parents encouraged her to cut the friendship but she didn't, thankfully. It was truly horrible. The rejection was so, so hurtful. I didn't stay at that church and thankfully graduated college and moved to another city where I joined another church that rapidly grew to be a mega-church. I never really felt like I belonged, but felt there was something terribly wrong and dark inside of me and I was hoping religion could heal or fix it. I eventually stopped going to that church too. Too many fake people 'playing christian'. The plastic smiles got on my nerves. No one seemed real.

Fast forward to 2011, shortly after I had been diagnosed with PTSD by a useless psychiatrist who threw the diagnosis at me and pushed me out the door, seeing me only once every 2 weeks for 20 minutes for medication assessment. He never educated me on what PTSD was or what might help or how to deal with the screaming storm in my mind. He never even advocated for therapy. He just gave me pill options. Needless to say, I eventually wrote a letter and fired him

But there was a time before I found a therapist when I was sinking. I was dissociating and losing large chunks of time and so depressed I couldn't get up or function. I was on medical disability which I still feel terribly ashamed of. Over a period of many months I cried out to god. I prayed and cried. At first I asked for help and then later I just wanted to know if he (god) was there. I remember being on my knees in my bedroom crying my heart out and calling out to god. I would do the same in the shower. There was nothing but a big, cold emptiness. No answer, no sense of nearness or anything.

I prayed over and over and over again over many, many months. I wasn't asking for much, just comfort in my pain. I didn't expect healing or a miracle. And slowly things got worse. The loss of time worsened and at times I'm sure I was close to some kind of catatonia because I would lie and stare at the wall or ceiling for hours on end and endure the endless howling and screaming of my mind and my brain trying to die.

I was dangerously suicidal at that time too. I had a plan and every morning I would go and check on the 2 bottles of pills I had (1 bottle of percocet and 1 bottle of potassium pills). I would tell myself that I would try to get through the day and if it became too much, I had the option to die. This went on for 3 months.

During this time, I spoke with some 'Christian' friends who wanted to meet with me to provide encouragement and what they said pretty much pushed me right out of christianity into athiesm and/or agnosticism. My 'friends' told me the reason I hadn't heard from god was that it was entirely my fault. I was apparently building walls and was keeping god out. I wasn't letting god in or allowing him to help me.

They went on to tell me that my faith basically sucked and that was why god was not manifesting in my life. There was more said in the conversation, but it basically revolved around how things were my fault because god is perfect. By the end of the conversation I was in such deep despair I didn't know what to do. What was the point of even praying for help? I was extremely vulnerable and these so-called christians almost destroyed me with their self-righteous attitude.

I'm so thoroughly sick of fake people who 'play church' on sundays but won't hesitate to swindle, steal and demean others on the other 6 days of the week. Religion has no place in my life anymore. My belief in a god of any kind died but I'm slowly leaning toward a more spiritual atunement and being aware of energy and healing, accupuncture, reiki and so on - all the stuff that christians decry as demonic. My mind has become so open and accepting to so many spiritual options out there without the 'this is evil' christian judement hanging over me. I feel more spiritually free, although I still struggle a lot.

It's become my answer in a world where I was on my bedroom floor asking god why I should stay alive and there was no answer. I don't pray or ask anything of any higher being. On the contrary, I often think if there's any being out there, it's out to get me or take joy in my struggles.

I found a wonderful therapist a bit later in 2011 and through hardwork on my part and no prayer or celestial intervention, I'm slowly getting better. I didn't need a god, I just needed love and support and a great therapist.
 
@gms1976 I'm right with you on the whole, 'God isn't there because your faith sucks.' I honestly want to slug anyone who lets those cursed words out of their pie-hole. That what I was told in the middle of a panic attack by one of the elders of my church. Nobody on the planet had more faith in god at that moment. And it didn't amount to shit. Just a vast, cold silence.

It took me years and years to erase the guilt that the church instilled into me. I swear.. I mean, I know there must be some religions out there which aren't tantamount to brainwashing and mental abuse but I certainly can't seem to find any, at least not among the big three Abrahamic religions. Ofcourse then you here about fundamentalists from every religion going around killing people and I start to think that religion isn't the problem at all. It's just the sickos who pervert the words of the gods for their own purposes, which seem to be destroying the happiness and freedom of everyone around them.
 
gms you and I have so much in common in our experiences with Toxic Faith and the legalist who just judge and condemn the people who do not follow along.

My heart goes out to you in your many struggles and I have learned more about real faith since I cut all ties to religion. Many religons have so much to offer in terms of healing the soul and spirit.

I also noticed that in every religion, there are the zeolots who try to impose their will on so many people. They do so much devasting damage. I am so happy to hear that you are now in a much better place and are receiving the right kind of care.

I really went on a vision quest after my ordeal and I learned so much that I had not known before. I am a spiritual person now and practice my faith privately and do not share much about it because Toxic Christianity has destroyed so many lives.

I can so identify to what you went through. I remember the anguish and the agony of being cast off and rejected and shamed and blamed etc. They also had a problem because I was in therapy.

Those people are the same and have gotten worse. I send out to you healing vibes and cheer you on in your healing and recovery from those insidious people.

I think it is a huge problem that is swept under the rug for far too long. I send you hugs of healing and recovery.


Go Hungry I can so relate to what you said. It takes years to heal and recover from that insidious church.

A elder in my little church told a couple that were my friends at the time giving me support, that by seeing me, I had caused the wife to miscarry. Seriously? It was like living in the dark ages and I felt so estranged because so many people in that community were so blind, deaf and dumb.

It took me so many years to heal and recover from what I experienced. I cannot imagine since I have not walked in your shoes to be raised in that environment and to be so abused and brainwashed.

I spent years searching and trying to make sense out of my experience. I went in looking for the truth and the truth helped me to leave and have nothing more to do with anything like that. Hugs to you of healing and recovery.
 
I understand exactly why people turn against religion when they are force fed it down their throats.

'God isn't there because your faith sucks.'
I know that definitely doesn't work. Being told such negative stuff about "religion" and God is so hurtful to people. We are trying to find meaning and the purpose of life. We look to God and are told He is pissed at us because we are unfaithful and horrible people. Our guilt is extreme. How does that make us want to be closer to a "Loving God"?

For me I realized it wasn't about religion but a personal journey with God. I needed to find answers myself and not what other people told me was the truth. I still believe what I did as a child, and believe in Jesus, but it's not like a group is telling me I have to act this way. Believe me, the guilt is hard to overcome. I still feel inadequate in His eyes, but I know it will be better if I look at it without the religious overtones.
 
A elder in my little church told a couple that were my friends at the time giving me support, that by seeing me, I had caused the wife to miscarry. Seriously? It was like living in the dark ages and I felt so estranged because so many people in that community were so blind, deaf and dumb.

Oh Gizmo,

What a horrible thing for that elder to say! I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I'm a RN and it blows my mind that in the 21st century, people are actually saying this stuff. That is a frightening frame of mind.

Will all due respect to the churches that are out there who are honest, hardworking and genuine, I'm starting to see some of the worst evil in the world hidden behind the well-meaning facades of church pastors, priests and elders.

It is just so sad that even today - with a 24/7 wealth of knowledge available through the internet - people still resort to a stupid medieval thought process to explain that which they don't understand. It's a lot easier to judge, point fingers and think bad thoughts than to sit down and research and get the scientific facts.
 
Thank you so much. You are so right. I have heard that there are good and healthy churches but I have never seen one. I quit looking a while ago.
 
I was raised methodist and baptist, but I don't follow organized religion as an adult. I am Christian, and do believe that we have a creator, and that a savior was sent for mankind. However, if I followed an established denomination, I would merely be following someone else's ideas and concept of God--the person who created that particular religion. I believe that each individual should come to their own conclusions, and have their own personal interpretation of the Bible, and who God is or isn't.
 
@gizmo I am a dedicated Christian and I really am so sorry that you have suffered all this. I was brought up atheist and had no contact with churches or the Bible when I was a child. At age 49 I became a Christian, by reading some information on a leaflet handed to me with a dollar when I was homeless. It was mostly churches and members of churches that helped me through those 3 years of my life, when I begged in the streets.

When I got back on my feet and found a home, I went church "shopping" and sampled several churches, before I found one that felt comfortable. I have made friends there and several folks have reached out to me and helped me in various ways. The pastors of that church have also been good to me. One of them even taught me how to balance my checking account when I kept overdrawing. The church also helped me out financially then too.

How I wish something nice with a church had happened to you instead of what you have suffered. Just try to remember that God loves you and cares very much about you. That is what I believe anyway. I wish you well.
 
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