Spirituality And Ptsd

[Privateer]

Oh, I'm sure we're terribly interesting to at least one or two things.

Truth be told, I don't think the universe is truly indifferent to any of its parts.

 

[heidi]

I mean yeah we're all connected. I'm sure the ocean cares if we pollute it. Or at least the life in the ocean and the lives that depend on it.

We as humans are a part of it's whole and we are not indifferent. A jack rabbit cares if it lives or dies. The rabbit isn't indifferent.

Even the smallest molecules, chemicals, the smallest forms of life aren't exactly indifferent.

So good point.

Still the universe might as well sit back and have a cigarette for all of it's favoritism or care over which specific life form prevails.

 

[Hashi]

Wow. I haven't got a clue about other life forms, but I care about the universe and I think the universe cares about me. I also think the universe knows what it's doing, even if we don't. I personally don't believe that it's an accident, or interesting side point, or whatever, that there's a human race with the cognitive, emotional, mental, spiritual and energetic potential that we have, for no reason.

Amœba, starfish, rocks, everything that's non-human has it's own energy, and I don't know about that because I'm not one of them. But I don't think that being human is the same as being a rock.

 

[Hashi]

God never cared about me or my family... I hate Him for having created me, as well. So I guess I'll get 'paid back', for that as well.

(((((((Junebug))))))))

I've felt this very strongly, could have written this myself.

I find "God" a very scary concept, because I can't reconcile that word with something I can feel safe with. To me "God" feels powerful but punitive, and I haven't felt that he cared about me personally, only about the choices I make. Then that belief extends to thinking I'll be paid back if I make the wrong choices, even in my thoughts.

I know there are people who have a completely different image of God, and a different relationship with God as they see him, but I can't get past ideas like this. I've had to move away from it entirely and find a different kind of spiritual belief that doesn't have the idea of someone in charge but is more about a higher energy and natural right order that can be reached.

I'm not saying you should believe what I believe. Just that I think the word and the concept of God can be very difficult. Even within that concept, though, I want to echo what you said in an earlier post and say - I don't think it works like that. I've come to believe that when I'm feeling uncared for and tasked with a life I don't want any part of, the consequence is happening now. It's the pain of my separation from spiritual connection. I no longer think there's going to be any "punishment" beyond that.

Maybe this is completely off track from your post. If so, please disregard it. Perhaps I just needed to write it for myself. I'm trying to keep up with a lot of changes in my views and beliefs recently.

 

[Tinyflame]

No Hashi, it's not off track, and you are very kind.

Yes, perhaps that's precisely what makes it so painful- in a sense like you could say or paraphrase what you said, that that seperation is it's own hell (on earth or otherwise). (Maybe that's why it feels as it does! :eek::()

I was very lucky in that not sure when it started but last couple of years I could say that despite myself (or logic) it came to me that 'God' (or at least Jesus, from a Christian perspective) was sweet/ kind etc- not punitive or 'awful' (only word I can think of). I really don't have the words, maybe Super-Tender-hearted (not 'frightening' or angry or mean or hostile, again I'm sorry, no other words come to me).

I hope that makes sense! :hug: