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Sympathy - It Is Creeping Back Here

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NotDepressed,

I think if a person says, "yes, I think i understand what you are going through as I've experienced X and here's how I dealt with that", it might be helpful. How the responder dealt with their similar problem may or may not work for the original poster, but it gives them another way of looking at their situation. Knowing that there are different ways of looking at a situation is helpful in thinking outside the boxes we all find ourselves in from time to time so we can learn to cope better. Just a thought.

Cowgirl
 
Sharing one's experience that is relative to what another is saying is absolutely the optimal way in which to show your listening.... it is a response to what is called reflective listening.... though slightly different. Reflective listening is you respond to what a person says in a brief way of what they said, so they understand you are listening. To share your experience which is similar / same as what you read, is a way of responding that you listened because your response reflects what they are saying of their experience. To learn is to share experience, ways and methods that work for another may help someone else. They may not, but they just may work for another. Experience is the greatest thing you could ever share with another here....
 
Hmmmmm!

Some honesty from me!

When I saw this thread it looked and seemed bolder and brighter than any of the other threads on the whole of that page. It stood so far out that it was almost waving a flag at me. And here is the honesty, it felt like a red flag to a bull, and I wanted to dig my hooves in and charge at that reg flag as defiantly as I could. I wanted to charge it down and deny it's (the threads), intentions!

However, I mentally and emotinally stood back and waited to assimilate my feelings ( I feel first think much later), now I am self aware concerning this I try to be adult and stand back first!

I pondered! Why did that thread wave a red flag at me?......And my honest answer is because it was a trigger. It triggered the negative internal chatter I have about myself. You know, I am pathetic, stupid, on the pity pot, all the feelings associated with self-pity and my own self-hatred. So that thread was tapping into my negative thought patterns, and it was as if it was only addressed to me, rather than the whole forum. As if Anthony was only addressing me - I am sure others' have felt the same, it's part of our negative thinking right?

Today, I can see what Anthony is suggesting. However, I guess the complexities that we all have in every day life concerning communicating our thoughts and ideas are that although many of us use the same words we can speak a different language. I mean, words are emotive aren't they? Some words we identify with, and others' we don't some are like a red flag to a bull! And I guess that recognising this is Okay!

At the end of the day if we are all brutally honest of course we want sympathy, it is part of feeling validated; feeling like the pain that you have suffered is real and is as terrible as it feels at times. We may also shun sympathy because it again taps into our negative thought patterns concerning ourselves. Receiving sympathy can reinforce the negative chatter we hold concerning who we are and how we are dealing with our pain (like we don't deserve it or it makes us feel more pathetic?)

So if we accept that by merely being here on the forum we are all highlighting that we have sympathy for ourselves and each other.
The key part of this, I feel, is that we have to be constructive with our sympathy. We have to use each other as a sounding board to bounce ideas off concerning how we can combat how we are feeling rather than just validating each others' pain. Don't we validate the pain of each person we respond to by answering their posts and trying to give them a different perspective anyway?

The forum is made up of many ingerdients, empathy, insight, compassion, understanding, support, knowledge and all of these come with a pinch of sympathy, I guess a little to much of this ingredient and the whole thing will be spoiled.

Spirit x
 
OK granted, but can I keep giving sympathy when it is completely unrelated to PTSD? For example, giving sympathy to a carer for a situation that doesn't even involve the PTSD sufferer they are caring for?
 
Upstream, I beleive you should act as you wish. I also believe that Anthony is referring to sympathy on here as a resource that should not be used in isolation. Rather it should be used in conjunction with other human resources that enable each individual to be proactive in their recovery etc.

Sympathy is a valuable and human quality, but with everything in this life there is always a need for balance. Be as you are and feel!

Sympathy on here was addressed in order for us to evaluate how effective we are for each other, IMHO. It is just one person's opinion. I always try to take a little of what speaks to me and then challenge myself with the rest.

Spirit x
 
Is wanting validation that what happened to you was wrong the same thing as wanting sympathy?

I used to have the desire to be rescued, but as I have gotten older I hate the loss of control over myself and my life that being rescued would cost me. I see sympathy as being a pitiable creature... I do not want to be pitied. At the same time there are some people that seem to think it is ok to treat me anyway they like, and sometimes I feel the need for validation that what I have been through was wrong and undeserved.

I suppose I wonder if this need for validation that what happened to me as being wrong is a search for pity. I know logically that it was wrong, and some of the behavior that is going on is still wrong...
 
a scary post

This is kind of a scary post for first timers to read ... maybe i need to reread it. What I'm hearing is pretty much like I've heard every where else ... Get over it...no sympathy here... you should have done something about it.

I'm not really looking for sympathy, but I'd hate to think I'm entering an arena with more "get over it" thinking. If i could get over it, i would have already done that. I'm trying to get an understanding of this thing and wanting to konw whether ptsd might be an underlying cause of some other things that I must escape.

I hope that I'm wrong about this. The others replies seemed to agree, so maybe i've just got the first timers fear of being rejected.
 
See, I think it's helpful to offer, maybe not sympathy, but validation to newcomers. It might make them feel more comfortable about sharing their problems, which are not always easy to discuss when you read all of the posts by people who have been here forever and almost sound like professional therapists themselves. It's intimidating. On the other hand, I do see where just sympathy without constructive advice is a waste of bandwidth.:think:
 
Hi Not,

Please don't let the advice of others intimidate you. I'm sure I've given good advice to people from time to time. But on the flip side, I'm not always able to take my own advice that I give out.

Things are not always as they seem!

Peace
Tammy
 
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