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f he held her down at one point, refused to listen to her no's, didn't care if she fought back...then that is a whole different ball field and combined with what is happening as for as coercion, I think there is reason for concern. This isn't just a matter of he wants sex and I don't. There is a pattern here about how he views her. If your wife begged you not to, fought back, and you pinned her down and mocked her, what do you think you would have done? How do you think your wife would see it? How does it feel when someone takes control over your body and there is nothing you can do to stop it? It feels horrible. What about after that happens, and the coercion begins again? It's easier and less traumatic to give in than it is to get raped[/QUOOTE]