The "f" Word Will Help You Heal!!

[Deleted member 34535]

I'm beginning to wonder if you are a troll. Your post about forgiveness was equally inclusive of bl...

Thank you Joey!

 

[joeylittle]

@crc53liamt - for what?

 

[Deleted member 34535]

For keeping me straight and showing me where the boundaries are here on MYPTSD. From here on I will make every effort to stay within the boundaries of what is good and right for all of the community members here on MYPTSD. In the short time that I have been a member on MYPTSD, I can see that this is a valuable forum where members can express their opinions and receive invaluable help while we journey through the very difficult task of surviving and ultimately thriving our many challenges with PTSD. And with your guidance and leadership, all of the members here know that they have someone is always looking out for their best interests. I am sure I join with all of us here on MYPTSD in thanking you for being here for us in our time of need. I look forward to many pleasant experiences on this wonderful forum. I hope you have a wonderful weekend Joey.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Edited: cross post

 

[shimmerz]

No. For many of us, life is 'NOT good or what'.

1. Many of us get little or no sleep at night due to night terrors, we can't work, are facing homelessness or are homeless, we struggle with demons that would bring most to their knees but somehow still continue on.
2. Some of us are suicidal, others struggle with somatic symptoms that put our lives at risk on a regular basis.
3. Many of us suffer from chronic pain.
4. Many of us can't walk out of the house, let alone live a life that includes anything close to normal experiences that most take for granted.
5. Some of us were abused by the very people who insisted that we believe that 'god loves us' and 'so do they' as they beat the shit out of us. And we were young enough enough to believe them.
6. Many have no family (or are struggling with how to let go of family that have abused them all of our lives), and have few to no friends
7. Regardless of our hard work to live life in a way that is fulfilling, many of us continue to be abused because people don't understand our symptoms.
8. Many of us have HUGE attachment issues, thus relationship issues, and forgiveness is part of the Masters Degree in attachment issues, which we aren't even close to being at.
9. Many of us sit in therapists offices, shaking, crying, dazed out, confused, puking for days afterwards while others are driving around in their convertible and shopping at Holt's.

So no it isn't good. It is desperate, it is painful, every moment is a struggle. How is that good?

And simple????? I have no idea who you are, but I would like to suggest that you need to respect that many people here have lived through a holy living hell and can't get out. They are still trying to figure out what the hell happened to them. It may take them a decade or more to even figure out WHO they are supposed to be forgiving, let alone for what.

Please, think before you type .... or read through some of the diaries here before you give us the one step wonder answer to all of our problems. In my humble opinion, it is incredibly insulting.

 

[void]

@crc53liamt

I dispute your claim that forgiveness "will help you heal"

Forgiveness does not have anything to do with Psychology or Psychiatry.
Forgiveness is a religious construct.
Outside of the context of religion, forgiveness has no meaning or significance.

Does forgiveness alter Neurological structure/function?
Does it reduce symptoms?
Does it provide coping skills?
Does it reduce the need for medications?

It is utterly irrelevant, unless one feels the need mimic the putative actions of the mythological Jesus.

I hope you recover and that this exercise helps you, but I would need to see proof of efficacy before I will consider it.

 

[Sideways]

Is life good or what???

I'm sitting here considering the concept of "forgiving" a man who committed heinous atrocities against me and destroyed my life.

That comment was insensitive and unnecessary. If you're sitting back thoroughly enjoying this process, I certainly don't want to know about it. The idea that someone would be having a hoot following this thread makes me feel quite ill.

 

[Deleted member 34535]

Void, I respect your opinion that Forgiveness is irrelevant to you. Those of us on here that state our religious beliefs generally get chastised for doing so. So if this site is going to be true to it's colors, I look forward to someone chastising you for your knocking our religious beliefs. If the site is going to be fair, it should come out with a warning for you to not demean the faith and religious beliefs of others. I could care less what you do or do not believe in, but don't come on here and knock mine and others beliefs. I am not selling mine. All I did was give a simple personal viewpoint on something that has helped me tremendously and I thought it may just help someone else. If only one person was helped by it, it would be worth it for me to worth the thread.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Those of us on here that state our religious beliefs generally get chastised for doing so.

Seriously?

https://www.myptsd.com/threads/christians-unite.55331/

https://www.myptsd.com/threads/prayer-requests.31094/

2 entire threads dedicated to it plus I have never seen anyone chastized for their religous belief, no matter the religon. I have seen blow back from pushing something as a fix for all and that is what your orginal post states. You may now be saying its your own personal belief (which is totally fine) but it is not a fix for all and that is all everyone is saying. I have not seen anyone chastize you for your religous belief and the staff wont allow that anyway. You are proposing forgiveness can help you heal and you are getting differenting opinions and you are becoming very defensive. Thats what im seeing (my opinion of course).

 

[shimmerz]

crc, please forgive me, but I am out.

 

[Deleted member 34535]

Just refer to the original thread and take from it what you will. If you get nothing, then take nothing. Do whatever is best for your own recovery.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Just refer to the original thread and take from it what you will. If you get nothing, then take nothing.

And I will state my opinion which is forgiveness isnt for everyone.

Im out as well.