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What if the sufferer is so burnt out they don't have the energy or motivation to put in all that hard self-work or don't feel the dedication? That is one major problem I have with therapy/treatments; I just end up feeling so hopeless about myself and life in general I don't see much point in putting in a bunch of hard work. I cannot convince myself it will make any difference. I do try but I cannot shake the feeling of 'it would all be for nothing.' it's quite the motivation killer.

Hmm, I suppose I am a bit frustrated it seems even good therapists don't know how to approach that issue. But for those who do manage to build up that dedication and motivation to put in a lot of hard work into trying to overcome their symptoms I'd agree your approach could certainly work.
 
I'm no expert by any means, though I can see that a technique is a guide that must be used and adapted to each person uniquely. You don't change the technique, you adapt to the issues being presented. I think if the therapist isn't providing feedback and alternatives from all different views, that is the first issue on their behalf. These aren't their beliefs, but realms of possibilities to be thought about, applied and tried. Then you have the sufferer. WOW... so many give-up because its just all too hard and takes too long. People want it quick and want the fix now. They don't want to discover the answer themselves, they think someone telling them what is wrong and how to fix it will fix them. Wrong! The brain just doesn't work that way.

Best para I ever read.

I don't know, but I want therapist. So I can keep on socializing and also slowly get to knowing the answers of myself. I know, I can't fix my all issues in a moment. It will take time. Sometimes it becomes too much to handle. It becomes too hard to plan a strategy to tackle with the problem. It breaks me sometimes.

Having therapist can help a lot, that I am seeing now.

If I fall on my ass helps me up, we re-assess and move on. Rather than just re-hashing details we focus on how I feel and what we need to do to make the changes I need to make.
I think, you have found right therapist for you.
I can see now, how if someone takes the time to work on stuff outside of therapy and receives good feedback inside of therapy healing can be dramatically improved.
It all lies inside and it doesn't work if you keep looking on other things or stick to something that should be paid attention.

I am glad to read, you've started healing. This is good news.
 
I belive that to do the therapy and get completely well there is a hugely overlooked factor. Home. Whats going on there? You need so much support and understanding from home. How many partners are actually able to be what you need at the time. How are the children coping? And if you are alone that might not be right either. To relive those feeling on your own will not be easy. Therapists need to involve the family much more. Family will listen to professionals, but probably not you the so called sick person. In an ideal world someone who has themselves gone true the process should move into the patients home to help until its over. Just a crazy thought, but god would I have loved to have had a caring person, who understood, with me when I did emdr.

I agree with everything you say. We can heal and heal completely, but not by pussyfooting around the issues that we have. We have to be strong and brave and dive into them. Its bloody hard but it can be done.
 
For years I was just "depressed". Then in medical school - I was maybe, Borderline Personality Disorder. Move ahead decades and I'm PTSD. I am doing CBT as well as some experimental stuff. My trauma time-line - noone can do EMDR for the mutliple events, or SIT, or even PE. Incest, physical abuse, rape, drugs, sex-trade, abusive spounses/significant others, assualts (non-rape), attacker in my house who I stabbed nearly to death while my child was asleep in her room...but I work in a high-pressure job, I don't let Girl 1 and 2 slop over into Girl3 arena.

My husband was part of the problem before and is currently kinda trying to be helpful. My daughter is a Godsend. She doesn't know jack-piddle about my past but she knows i have PTSD, roughly the underlying causes, and she's a BIG plus in my life. She goes about her nearly 13 year-old life like she's another 'tween, but with lots of compassion and brains.

I am driving the bus on my care - my psychiatrist is a cutting edge researcher and I am always two steps in the lead; I bring stuff to the table. I know I am in very deep water with a life-preserver on, but I am the one with my legs still moving. CBT is the treatment/life-package/water-of-Lourdes miracle as far as I'm concerned. And you have to participate in CBT. No one else can do it for you.
 
This thread is the most profound of the entire site. JMHO it should be a sticky on the Home page.

For me failure is not an option. I know this may sound harsh to some. The tools are here for the journey to healing. We just have to keep stepping out of the comfort zone. Of course it is not easy and takes time.

We are worth every minute we spend on our future!
 
For a few decades now, I have been only seeing therapists when the need arises. Back when I was seeing them full time, they didn't have the CBT/DBT like they do now. I wish they had. Since reading up on them, since I've been here, I honestly believe I would have been able to work a lot longer, stay married a lot longer, and been happier longer if I had had a therapist who would have given me things to work on.

But, since I can't go back, I can only keep moving forward. I believe it is very important to step out of a comfort zone, and do what needs to be done. I agree with Whitney in that "we are worth every minute we spend on our future!"
 
We are worth every minute we spend on our future!
The problem is that so many are just simply too lazy, and they want someone to tell them their problems in that belief it will all be better then. I can pick out the handful of people who have come onto this website, who demonstrated a will to heal their trauma and get control of PTSD, thus they did more about it themselves than relying on any therapist or support mechanism. It's very easy to spot a doer from a talker / thinker, even in text.
 
I am trying to understand this whole thread. The points of views? All though I had therapists who were not well experienced or trained at times. I can not forget the fact that I had no money and no choice for who I had some of those times. I always new the choice of quitting. I needed right then someone who would listen nonjudgmental. They worked. I have had other very qualified therapist who have taught me so much. Challenged me to leave my box. I am hoping the 4 steps are the answer.

It's very easy to spot a doer from a talker / thinker, even in text.

It scares the heck out of me to believe that judgment would be made that you would be a doer, talker or thinker just by what you write in text on this forum. No one walks in your shoes. Everyone has there own way of dealing. I do not think anyone can say ok doer you are going to heal yourself. Get up read some books do some tools and you will be fine. If you can't you do not fit what I think is the norm. I had no idea people were making such harsh judgments about others here. Do I believe people can help them self? Of course depending on many circumstances and not my place to judge.

The problem is that so many are just simply too lazy

This just saddens me. Many people have to struggle with this in there day to day life from family, friends and the public as a whole. It is a devastating statement. We should not have to read this here. Question where do I fall in judgment on the PTSD forum? Possibly a step backwards for some with poor self esteem issues. A well documented PTSD symptom.

I personally feel my journey is what it is. It is my journey to healing. I once needed someone to carry me and depend on. Alternative I do not know. Would I be here today. I was not very strong at the time. I was also misdiagnosed for years. A high functioning woman hearing things about herself that do not make sense and were devastating. After losing a marriage, job, home and my children. I found myself blaming me cause I was broken and could not see a way out of what I was told. Yes it stunk but I learned a whole lot of tools then. Sometimes healing takes as long as it takes.

What makes me often think of failure for PTSD, and this is based on this sites majority are females who've been sexually abused, is that many in that trauma category want an empathetic female for them to listen. There is no common sense, no outside of the box concepts or ideas, not pushing the person to get back outside their comfort zone.

Where is the research on this statement? The part about trauma category? Could it be that some women and men need more compassion and empathy then other women and men? I hardly think it is the failure of PSTD. My opinion here. Could it be that those who haven't suffered child sexual abuse do not have a clue. That is what those with do need to work through?

I have had men and women therapists. All of them I judge on their ability to help me professionally not by there gender. Some therapists of both genders failed me miserably. Thank goodness other therapists of both genders helped me towords my progress.

I do not think the understanding and treatment was as readily available about PTSD to the general population with real traumas until recent years. That was a disability for me. I was suffering from the PTSD not from the other wrong diagnosis. I had lived a normal get up go everyday life for 45 years. I understand what that is. These debilitating symptoms are not in my head. I now have a wonderful therapist who is extensively trained in what she claims is the cure of PTSD and does EMDR. I am thankful.

I had sexual child abuse buried deep. Until EMDR I did not even know it existed. Should do EMDR first? It sounds like a good option. I would have been able to get a correct diagnosis. But then again if you cannot function without DBT or CBT tools how could you ever handle EMDR? I think whatever work it took for me to get here was necessary. Questioning is not productive. I am happy with my progress. I am thankful to have had the opportunity to have therapists. Lots of them!
 
Because it saddens or upsets you, doesn't make it any less truthful. You seem to forget that I, and many I know personally, have all walked this path. Lazy absolutely fits the scheme of healing, whether you believe it or not. So does denial about yourself. Very common in PTSD.
 
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