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Did I misunderstand?

Are you currently living under the same roof as your abuser because you feel obligated to care for your elderly parents ?
 
Hi Tiger,
Just calling by to see how you are?

I took a read through your old messages to get a better idea of where you are coming from. I'm quite busy over the next few days, but will be looking in here when I get the opportunity.
Be nice to yourself.
Hugs
 
Oh!! Sorry!! I think I may have confused some people with my recent posts!! I live on my own, but have spent a lot of time at my parents home to help out and 'he' lives with them!! It's my punishment!!
 
"Punishment" for what? Is it possible to set a boundary and find times to stop by your parents when he is gone (if he has anything in his schedule). ? I sort of broke free of feeling like I need to care for my parents. They didn't treat me very well and/or barely protected me when it counted. But it's hard to get out of that role of feeling like you need to take care of everyone anyway. You don't, but I know it's hard. I moved far away. But I'd look at the boundary bit, and finding plenty of time in your own space, or with your own friends, being free.
 
My mum won't go anywhere without him!!! I moved 26 miles away to put a bit of distance between us, but my other brother that used to do most of the helping moved abroad so I'm left with it!! I totally agree that my family where/are not there for me at all when I'm struggling and that makes me as mad as hell and that feeling of anger is followed by immense guilt!! Even though everything exploded well over 15 years ago, I still can't forgive myself for the devastation I left behind when I confided in someone about the abuse!! The whole family disowned me!! Now I am expected to step up and take care of them!! The feelings I get are so powerful, but also very conflicting and confusing!!
 
Even though everything exploded well over 15 years ago, I still can't forgive myself for the devastation I left behind when I confided in someone about the abuse!!

Their feelings of guilt, denial, anger, confusion, etc. are not your problem. You didn't create any devastation. But again, I know it's confusing and hard to work out. It feels like you have to choose between yourself and your family, and can't have both..maybe? Can you at least be "busy" more often and nudge them passively towards finding other avenues of help? This son that your mom can't go anywhere without would likely do something in an emergency, right? If you didn't help, what would happen? Are you more worried they would disown you again? We shouldn't have to work for our parents or do them favors in order for them to love us. If that's the message, it's not about you. It's a reflection of their own issues. That's really hard to sort out, too, but that's sort of where I've gotten to. I love my parents, but I'm not responsible for their feelings.
 
I have always felt tremendous guilt for firstly reporting it all and the consequences of doing that!!! Primarily for the parents and then for me!! I am very concerned that I will not be able to make up for all the pain and anguish I caused them because I was selfish and only felt my own pain!! Am also worried that the parents will die and it will be too late to earn their forgiveness!! I do feel responsible for their feelings because I hurt them so, so much!! When I volunteered to go into care so that they didn't have to choose between him and me, I thought it was the right thing to do because it was me that had the problems!! I didn't expect to be disowned!! Yes, I am worried that they will disown me again because then I will never be able to make peace with them!! Does anyone understand? Maybe if anyone does, could you help me get to grips with this? I know all this sounds pathetic, but this is what I really struggle with!! This is the thing I can't move on from!!
 
Hi Tiger,
I don't think that there is anything selfish about you.
When I volunteered to go into care so that they didn't have to choose between him and me, I thought it was the right thing to do because it was me that had the problems!!
You were a frightened middle teenage girl, who had been horribly abused for years, and you were forced into a position which you should never have been forced into.

Any "problems" which you had then and have now are almost certainly a result of the years of abuse you suffered and the additional trauma of the hopelessly insensitive and bureaucratic response of the social workers and the cops.

As children, we tend to blame ourselves when others abuse us, we try to make ourselves more acceptable to the abusers in the hope that they will treat us better.

When abusers and the willfully ignorant who have allowed the abuse to occur are confronted with that abuse, it is far too easy for them to ignore the abuse and to blame the victim and dismiss the victim and what she describes as "disturbed"

You are worth far more than that. You have gone far further than anyone could ever ask, as you try to have a family relationship with your parents.

It is not you who needs to apologize, you've gone far more than half way. Please be kind to yourself - if you do visit them, please do not stay there overnight.

Even if your parents are still in denial about the abuse which you suffered and about your abuser, it would still be reasonable for them to try to avoid exposing you to seeing him. does he go to a day centre or have some sort of sheltered work or learning that he goes out of the house for?

If he does, can you visit when he isn't there to stress you?

Here's a hug, please think about what I've written, and let me know what your thoughts are. let me know if you can start to forgive the 15 year old you? to start to think of that frightened, abused, teenage girl and the terrible position which she was put into, and to give her a hug from me?
 
I still say you did nothing wrong, but very right, and they were wrong to not protect you or believe you. But the part about wanting their love and approval is normal, and why lots of this family stuff is so hard....as little babies and kids, we need our parents for our very survival. Or instinct to please them, especially if the are dysfunctional, grows very strong because we need love and we really, really need to survive. But this instinct carries on into adulthood when we honestly don't need our parents and we don't need their love and approval in order to survive. We can probably do it better on our own. But the need is still there.

Is there a way you can help more from a distance? So you can "be there" for them, without being "there"??? My mother was terrible to me, quite abusive and neglectful, and projecting all of her own CSA shame onto me...she thought I was totally disgusting. But I still care about her feelings. It has helped both of us, I believe, to have some distance. This might work itself out in a better way for you in time. You really have to let them have their feelings and not take that on. But I know it's hard. If given space and time, I believe these things will settle some. But good to write more about those fears....fears of them disowning you. Would you miss them too much? Do you love them? Or would you just feel guilty? It's taken at least 15 years to get to a tolerable place with my mom, but we live far apart. In many way, I wrecked the family. But I don't feel quilty. I apologized once and was done. We're all cool now. But you spoke up against abuse and someone should have apologized to you!!! Try to stay present, not focusing on the past stuff....what can you do for them, minimally, maybe from your home (bake,,,and drop off a cake for sunday?)....find ways out....and the positive ways in. But if It gets ugly, leavel. Protect your boudnaries, Tiger@@@@
 
Lol! I've lost my words!! I am struggling with bad urges!! I just wish it was all over!! Thank you for being so caring!!
 
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