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This So Called Weapons Ban

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Sorry guys but Frenchy`s Priorities are f*cked up. If He/She/It has PTSD then the first Thing to worry about is getting the PTSD sorted and not what the VA might or might not mean in Terms of the 2nd.

And being serious. If He/She/It doesn`t Claim by the VA because they may loose there guns. Then you should all be Happy that some one who doesn`t want help isn`t blocking up the over stretched and clogged up VA Systeme and stopping you guys getting what you Need.

This is the problem with Vets and their reluctance to get help. Fact: Some Vets are so pro-guns that they will not want to get help because of this. Are there priorities out of order? Absolutely.

But the point is that SOME vets won't get help because of this. I lost my 2nd amendment rights a while back, which didn't bother me too much, but losing my security clearance too, and in turn my job, DID bother me, a lot. I've been ruthlessly trying to fight this for a while with no luck, I just started plan G (cuz plans A-F didn't work) creating a petition on the white house page (which I guess I can't paste because I don't have enough posts)
 
I like hunting a lot and had a shotgun. But I gave up on guns a while ago. I guess I never got the fever. And when I had a lot of them (carried 2 .45's) they were tools only. I think I know why I am neutral about them. Seen a lot of GSW's including my own. But I understand the need.

With some of the dreams I have had, it's probably best I don't have a pistol. There have been close calls with my fists and I carry a lot of guilt about it.
 
Paradox for me. Northern Ireland did my head in and brought me here, but it gave me an unalterable code for the defensive weapons I carried. Don't have much use for those pistols and SMG's now, but enjoy the rifles I use for game and competition. There's a whole difference. If I carried a pistol, I'd be back in a very different frame of mind. Does that make sense?
 
Hey Ned

Yeah that makes complete sense. I used a 45 while deployed. I had a few since and at one time one was my carry weapon. Gone the way of a lighter hand gun in the S&W 9mm. Smaller, lighter, highly accurate weapon. Although I rarely if ever carry anymore it's the one I would use for that purpose.
 
Ta, good sanity check.

The reality here is that having and carrying doesn't necessarily make to safer. No where is safe anymore and carrying can even get you in trouble with the law. Even if you're doing it properly, you can inadvertently become a target yourself and be shot or killed by police thinking that they're protecting other citizens. It does happen. Like many things one much choose that appropriate time and place. Good sense should always prevail.
 
For me, being firearm free for over a year, has forced me to look at myself and my love of guns in detail. While I carried the standard issue 9mm on active, I never really was a handgun guy. Even when I hunted regularly, I didn't carry. I think I can count on one hand the number of times I used my permit to carry as a civilian. Come to think of it, I got rid of all my handguns long before the beast was giving me issue.

Now, with not so much as a pellet gun around, I find that my collection of knives and other cutting tools fills the gap. Like many, I feel better thinking I'm "armed". This is kind of funny as I never had any sort of training with a knife. Truth is I'd be hard pressed to use one properly. This is even funnier as like many of you I have had firearms training ad nauseum. I knew how to use those.

I agree with Jar's statement of "...having and carrying doesn't...make safer..." In fact, it makes me a bit paranoid knowing there are mouthbreathing flatlander civillians running around with concealed weapons that never had any real training with handguns.

Hell, we are probably safer NOT carrying as we don't give those idiots justification to use their popguns.;)


Now let me tell you about the virtues of a tomahawk...
 
Used to have "Lumberjack Days", don't know if they still do. They had an axe throw event. Would throw those things from like 50-75 ft back and just nail the bulls eye. Was really fun to watch, until a wild throw glanced off the round and came close to hitting a guy. Then, you were real careful where you stood.

Sarg
 
Used to have "Lumberjack Days", don't know if they still do. They had an axe throw event. Would throw those things from like 50-75 ft back and just nail the bulls eye. Was really fun to watch, until a wild throw glanced off the round and came close to hitting a guy. Then, you were real careful where you stood.

Sarg

Used to be something like that here too. And Back home where I grew up. Tomahawks and throwing knives are rather useful for other stuff too, or so I'm told. My tommies are mostly for clearing brush and the like. I find them more useful than machetes, which I also have a nice collection of. My range and accuracy are limited, perhaps to about 30 feet. But I figure that is good enough to paraphrase the old .308 t-shirts that read "Go ahead and run, you'll just die tired."

However in the town I am in now, as a direct response to all the shooting hysteria, they passed an ordinance here that outlaws the use of "...any device or implement that launches, throws, or propels a projectile..." inside city limits. Which is funny because so far the cops have busted a ton of kids playing with Nerf Dart guns in their front yards, a dude with a Super Soaker type squirt gun, shut down numerous roofers using pneumatic nailers and busted folks using an archery practice range...in a city owned park....that built the range and maintains it...

While I hope to never have a run in with the law, I think it would be funny to get a day in court and force them to state that human hands are banned by this ordinance, since by the word of their law by throwing a dart, tomahawk or knife the hand that did it qualifies as a device or implement that moves projectiles. Gah. Maybe I am too much a smart ass for my own good...

But no matter how one looks at it, I will restate that as responsible gun owners, any one that realizes they have some issues and owns firearms should willingly give them up for safe keeping until such time the beast is chained up and one can go back to enjoying the finer, if somewhat loud, things in life
 
Technically, if you use your hands to commit a deadly act, it is then calssified as a deadly weapon. Sort of makes sense when you think about it. A cop told me it's the intent of the act of using your hands that counts and whether you had any martial arts training.

So if asked, you don't know shit about karate, quick kill, jui-jitsu, or even karoake. All them words.

My hand accidentally landed on his solar plexus.
 
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