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Childhood Trauma group and disassociate

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Perhaps in her excitement she didn’t realize how she took me down.
That's possible but she still needs to be much more responsible if she is leading or facilitating a group. Do you think you could have a conversation with her about how both of you can set boundaries in group? Or maybe the benefit of you attending a group led by someone else since she is your one-on-one T?
 
@Frieda , thanks for your damn awesome words.
@Lili , you are massively brave.
Maybe it's my innately suspicious nature, but, I can't help but wonder WTH your therapist's gig is, and frankly whether she's qualified enough or impartial enough to manage running a group.
The "excitement" or "I've been waiting for six months for this" thing sets my teeth on edge.
It's not a bloody Netflix episode.
For some perspective, I used to do group as well.
In my first coupla weeks, I was often fidgety or seeming like I wasn't paying attention to other group members because of it. That was the last thing I wanted to make anyone feel like, but it happened.
To everyone in the group's credit, there were two therapists and one very brave, lovely lady whom I'll call A.
A, the lady, managed to speak up. She began with, "I think this might upset someone, but..." and then managed to communicate, with the help of the therapists, that what I was doing made her feel like I wasn't listening, and that I didn't respect her or the other participants and I didn't care about them discussing really emotionally traumatic stuff and I was just there fiddling with shit.
2 weeks, mate, that was the time frame.
Of course I was horrified that I was making anyone feel like that.
But - this was all discussed really calmly, really handled well, we talked about our feelings and we resolved the conflict (and I made a damn good effort to stop doing what I was doing.)
A confronted her feelings about speaking up, which was really hard for her, and her feelings that she expected me to go nuts or the therapists to tell her that I was right and she was wrong.
I talked about mine, that I was nervous and I really, really, really, really didn't want to upset or disrespect anyone, and I was going to try harder in the future.
Then the therapists walked us through how we felt after. A said she didn't expect me to be so nice, and I said o didn't expect her to be so nice either.
I stopped doing the specific action and explained myself better, and A felt better too.
At no point did I feel judged or hurt (ok a little), but it was so well-expressed and well sorted and didn't even seem like conflict, even though it was.
That's what "practicing conflict or interpersonal situations" in group should look like.
"A," came back a month later and said she'd used those skills to ask for something from her husband, and I was f*cking overjoyed.
Also, dissociation signals and group.
If I'm dissociating, I certainly don't have the presence of mind to send a signal like, it's not a lack of verbal skills, it's a lack of skills/awareness in anything at all. If I'm aware enough to send a signal I'm probably pretty far gone. At the start I couldn't even feel when I was dissociating.
One of the things my mates notice is my posture eases and slackens.
Maybe some "tells" instead of "signals" could work.
I wouldn't have been comfortable telling anyone my tells at the time, though.
Is this group and this therapist otherwise helping you?
 
Just a late thought to toss out there ---

Both my Ts tried to get me into group therapy and I flat out refused. It was not even open for discussion. Quite frankly I didn't have the guts to sit in a room and tell my dramas and traumas and feel my feels to a bunch of judgemental strangers. So they were ecstatic when I found this group - though they would prefer I didn't insist on being in a place that allows me to keep my anonymity.

So for all of you doing this horrible group thing--- Many kudos. Because I know how brave you have to be to do it. And it's damned impressive that you can
 
I’m not sure what hell is up with your T and thr way she’s managing the group dynamic. I attend a...

I’m not sure what hell is up with your T and thr way she’s managing the group dynamic. I attend a...
We have several none noise making fidget toys for member use in group but the top is not one of them. The member reached back at took the decorative top off of the therapist desk and started spinning on the table next to her. I use fidget toys as well like a squeeze ball, a “damn it” doll etc...which sit in my hand and don’t make noise. Personally I thought it was completely disrespectful and crossing boundaries to take something off the therapist desk - I expected T to say something when member interrupted me by stating “oh wow! A top”. Again, i expected T to say something when she started spinning it and it was distracting everyone. I lost my momentum we briefly talked through why I lost my momentum and tried to talk again. But the third time the member interrupted and T didn’t say anything, I went off on the member. Honestly I do think T wanted us to disagree so she could address it and have us learn from it. I’m the only one actually diagnosed PTSD and I felt so humiliated and talked down I’m front of everyone. T told member she didn’t have to forgive me. Like I said earlier I believe later T tried to give me positive reinforcement but I was to far gone. Enlighten of the support I’ve received here and the lack of support from T, I think I should be looking for another T. T and I spent 1 1/2 years building trust and I feel it was washed away in seconds. Even if her intentions were good at that time, her lack of follow up speaks loudly that this relationship is not healthy for me.

Just a late thought to toss out there ---

Both my Ts tried to get me into group therapy and I flat out...
Thanks Freida. I think I will be joining on this forum as well. Sideways is right, this is not Netflix: these are my feelings, my safety and my well being that I entrusted T with. Sideways may very well be on target that T is not qualified to handle this group or atleast those of us with PTSD. I’m going to give myself a few more days to process this before I confirm to T that I am leaving. Thanks everyone. You all have been fantastic
 
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Sideways may very well be on target that T is not qualified to handle this group or atleast those of us with PTSD.
This.

My group is only for people with ptsd. The place I go to has groups like dbt and cbt and stuff that attract people with a multitude of different issues, all in the same room, which is a completely different space, which does tend to feel unsafe for me.
 
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