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I cannot ask directly for the data because they have made it clear they won’t speak to me

But they did! They met with you and you went into that with "you wronged me" instead of maturally asking for the info for your thesis. That was your chance to talk soley about your thesis but you spoke about what happened and what "their part was in it". I can quote you if you need me to but that was your chance to get the the things you needed for your thesis and you blew that. I am being direct and harsh for a reason. YOU NEED TO OWN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR WHAT YOU DID OR YOU WILL GET NO WHERE! Except a pool of self pity.
 
I've been following along...

Of the thousands of people on this forum I can not remember someone ever relying on coworkers or management to help them with symptoms, grounding or anxiety. If anything they do not want their employers to know about their PTSD let alone symptoms.

Next time keep your employers out of your personal business. They're not health care professionals and shouldn't have to be.

Good luck with everything!
 
If anything they do not want their employers to know about their PTSD let alone symptoms.

YES YES YES YES!!!!!! My employers only know I have anxiety and that's because it did effect my job (which I had to fix immediatly) but they do not and will not know I have PTSD until I ask for an accomendation to bring my service dog to work but that is an extreme not everyone type of situation and I still may not tell them. Depends on what I have to advise but will only advise what I absolutely have to.
 
Reading through it seems like a circular discussion happening here just now.

I hear that you just want someone to see how hurt you are about all of this and folk saying “you need to acknowledge your part in it” isn’t helping because you feel you have, but that your former employer is more wrong. I don’t think that’s a circle that’s going to be squared out here in this thread.

@lostforgottensoul you’ve stated your view on this over and over again, the OP isn’t in a place to respond the way you seem to want her too - it may be time for you to step away and let this one rest. I wonder how much of your own stuff is being triggered here making it very important that you feel your advice is heard?

I’m wondering if it’s time for the thread to move forward from here - @LoveTea what are you hoping for from this thread, can you give folk a steer in terms of what might be helpful to you?
 
At this point, I’m not trying to fixate on blame, that isn’t going to help me. I just need to figure out how to keep going. Regardless of blame, this affects practically every aspect of my life right now. I don’t know how to keep from fixating on the situation and the pain that I feel. I’m visually confronted with it on a regular basis, it affects my school work, my relationships, and my ability to function. I tried reaching out to people in the school to help me work around these issues, but they are not very helpful and very slow to respond. I feel very uncomfortable around a lot more people because many strangers are now involved in my personal life and I didn’t have a choice about that. I just don’t know how to deal with the barriers this has created for me. I don’t know how to move on when I feel all these reminders and barriers everywhere. Yeah I know I need to learn from this, but I have to put that on the back burner, I need to figure out how to function on a daily basis. Complete strangers are asking me if I’m ok, I cry all the time, I’m losing weight. I don’t know how to keep dealing with my school work. I don’t know how to have hope, it feels like any glimmer keeps getting ripped away. Everyone has told me that I don’t reach out and I’m screaming for help from these resources I’m supposed to have, and they aren’t really doing anything.
 
I’m screaming for help from these resources I’m supposed to have, and they aren’t really doing anything.
When you’re screaming for help, what are you hoping they’ll do? There are lots of possible ways to help in his kind of situation, eg talking to you about active coping strategies you can adopt, giving you space to vent, advocating for you in terms of your thesis, offering emotional support, helping you find new work etc etc, some of which will feel more helpful and accessible to you just now than others.

If you can articulate what you need, it’ll give folk here some direction. There’s a lot of wisdom on the boards here but if you’re in a place where you literally don’t know what you’re asking for (which I get given the impact this has had on you), folk will find it hard to know what might make a difference. What do you need most immediately?
 
I just don’t know how to deal with the barriers this has created for me.
Speak to your thesis advisor.

Tell them that you handled your work situation badly, and instead of working out some kind of agreement where you can have access to your thesis materials, you focused on how upset you were that you were fired. See if they can work out some kind of arrangement where you can have access to your materials.

IF they’re able to, it will most likely entail some kind of No Contact Agreement. Meaning that you’d only have access when no one else is in the building, and that if you broke that agreement at any time (including things like leaving notes, or “I just forgot this one thing, let me just dash in and grab/update/whatever) then you would permenantly lose access.

They may not be able to swing it, at all. If so? It’s a hard lesson, but one that happens in life all the time. Projects lose funding, or researchers are fired & lose their research, or a security clearance is downgraded because of some stunt an ex pulled and you’re no longer even allowed in the building much less working on your baby of a project. Sometimes it will be your fault, sometimes someone else’s fault, sometimes no one’s fault. It still leaves the situation to be dealt with.

You may have to move your graduation date, if you have to start a new thesis. And, yes, that can come along with a helluva lot of ripple effect (grad schools, jobs, internships... opportunities that you’ll be heartbroken to miss out on... AND having to reapply for others for the following year, dealing with a gap year depending on when you do graduate / new acceptance dates, etc.). The fallout from this kind of stuff can be huge.

It’s also very, very normal. It happens. In university, in your 40’s with a mortgage to pay and kids in school, right as you’re set to retire & are now looking at having to work 10 more years before you can afford to. Curve balls happen. The brass ring moves. Everything changes.

Learning how to deal with that? Is one of life’s big lessons.

A trick, if you can swing it, is taking everything catastrophic & turning it into an opportunity.

As one example, you had your graduation set for December, and then a series of plans immediately following. You’re now looking at maybe 12-18 months of “what the hell am I going to do with this time?” Semester abroad (if before graduation)? Working for a year to save up buku bucks? An internship? An inpatient trauma unit & 6mo IOP? Peace Corps (if after graduation)? Something else fun/exciting?

You had your path locked in. You knew what you were going to be doing. Now you’ve gotten an opportunity to do things differently. What do you want to do? Helluva lot of possibilities. :D A lot of really exciting ones.... as well as the not exciting not doing any of them, because you’re so miserable about what you missed out on, that you do nothing except regret what didn’t happen. Try to avoid that one. That one sucks. Most of us have done it, at least once, and regret it. So, given the opportunity to lay a new path... what do you want it to look like?

^^^
BIG HINT - Come up with a rough outline of what to do if your thesis advisor can’t get you access, before asking to see if they can get you access. That way, if they say “No. you’re going to have to restart your thesis.” You’ve got a plan in place, and it’s not the end of the world. And if they manage to get access? It’s all that more appreciated / something you’re not going to risk by “just” (saying hello, leaving a note, being in the building for even 2 minutes when your former coworkers are there) anything... That is, unless you like your new plan better than your old one. :sneaky: Then you can save your Big Ask for another time. As you don’t need someone to stick their neck out for you, or bend over backwards to give you a second chance. You’ve already got it handled, and it’s exciting as hell.
 
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@lostforgottensoul yes I do have a therapist. She actually keeps wanting to fight it because she wants me to be heard, which I have no intention of doing. The part that has been hard for me is that the situation has been so stressful on me that I had to go on meds in order to stay healthy/safe. I never wanted really wanted to go on meds (although I kmow right now it is necessary so I agreed to it) but that hasn’t been going very well either since I am small and my body is very sensitive.

I don’t know what kind of help I can get from the school, the resources they are able to provide me are unclear. Because of the concussion, I won’t be able to work, but I need money in order to stay safe and away from my family. I don’t know how to manage my family in this situation. They don’t know about my PTSD and it wouldn’t be safe to tell them. However, I still have a joint bank account, so at some point they will realize I havn’t made money since February. They know I absolutely love my job so they proabably wouldn’t believe I just quit and the longer I put off not telling them the worse it would be.

I don’t know how to find support because talking to a therapist once or twice a week isn’t enough. The school counciling center is a disaster. I call crisis lines all the time, but that only marginally helps. I don’t have many friends and I know I can’t just dump it on them. I don’t know why, I’m just really feeling the loss of my childhood right now. I feel like I’m homesick, but I don’t have a home to go back to. I just want my mom, but my mother has never been that kind of support for me. She will only yell at me and I just can’t take it right now. I don’t know how to be alone with myself, i have constantly been around at least one friend since thursday but that isnkt sustainable. I don’t know how to balence taking care of my concussion (essentially laying in the dark doing nothing) versus moving on because I can’t move,on just laying in the dark rhuminating.
 
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