Vulnerability

[Valentino]

Within the context of shame and vulnerability, humanity is awareness of your own limitations as a human being, in addition to awareness of your human needs, wants and desires.

In a broader context, it includes all things human nature, the human condition, and the virtue of humanity.

Human nature refers to the distinguishing characteristics, including ways of thinking, feeling and acting, that humans tend to have naturally, independently of the influence of culture. The questions of what these characteristics are, what causes them, and how fixed human nature is, are amongst the oldest and most important questions in western philosophy. These questions have particularly important implications in ethics, politics, and theology. This is partly because human nature can be regarded as both a source of norms of conduct or ways of life, as well as presenting obstacles or constraints on living a good life.
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_nature

The human condition encompasses the unique features of being human.
It can be described as the unalterable part of humanity that is inherent and innate to human beings and not dependent on factors such as gender, race, culture, or class. It includes concerns such as the meaning of life, the search for gratification, the sense of curiosity, the inevitability of isolation, and the awareness of the inescapability of death.
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_condition

The virtue, humanity, is a set of strengths focused on “tending and befriending others.” The three strengths associated with humanity are love, kindness, and social intelligence. Humanity differs from justice in that there is a level of altruism towards individuals included in humanity more so than the fairness found in justice. That is, humanity, and the acts of love, altruism, and social intelligence are typically person to person strengths while fairness is generally expanded to all. Humanity is one of six virtues, as defined by the Character Strengths and Virtues Handbook, that are consistent across all cultures.
--- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanity_(virtue)

 

[Meadowsweet]

@Valentino. according to the wiki definitions you've given here, it seems like you've used a word that doesn't fit in the black and white context in which you have used it.

I find being described as someone who has lost their humanity, when love and kindness are included in your definition of humanity, very upsetting and I hope it is simply an ill thought out term on your part.

 

[Survivor2Thriver]

What I see her saying in that video clip is, sort out the trauma issues with a trauma therapist first. After that, what she says about vulnerability applies to everyone equally because we're all human.

After we sort out our trauma issues with a trauma therapist first. There will be no need for BB!!!

It can...if the person has had a history of allowing people to walk all over their boundaries, and not even know they have a right to healthy boundaries.

Do you understand dysfunctional families? "Allowing people to walk all over them?" There are no boundaries. That.is.the.problem. Not all children feel shame. I am one of those children. Endurance...Perseverance and to hell with shame. BB comes to the rescue if someone disses your hair. ~Sheezzz As if I would care! ~As a trauma survivor...that IS hilarious!!!

Many activists are in fact abused children. They channel their anger into worthy causes, which gives them a sense of self worth and purpose. They use their anger in a positive way, to create change in the world, where it is needed. I've met people on this forum who have said they intend to go the activist route specifically to channel their anger.

I find your perspective extremely narrow minded. You believe "everyone" who gives their time to worthy causes is motivated by anger??

 

[Philippa]

Do you understand dysfunctional families?

Well, I come from one, so yeah, I think I understand them pretty well.

"Allowing people to walk all over them?" There are no boundaries. That.is.the.problem.

Yes, that is the problem, when they are children, which I clearly pointed out in my post, yet you managed to completely ignore, once again. When they become adults, and seek therapy, they can learn that boundaries are real things and they have a right to them. You aren't hearing me at all.

Not all children feel shame. I am one of those children.

Good for you. You don't represent every child from a dysfunctional household, so stop speaking for the rest of us.

I find your perspective extremely narrow minded. You believe "everyone" who gives their time to worthy causes is motivated by anger??

Did I say "everyone"? Please look back at what I actually said and stop inventing things and putting words into my mouth

I clearly used the word many, yet you've managed to totally misread me. Again, it shows ineffective communication skills on your part. Communication is a two way street, involving hearing and speaking. Maybe you could do with understanding that a bit more and not just react defensively.

I don't feel heard by you, and again, I don't wish to continue interacting with you. I find it unpleasant and unproductive.

 

[Survivor2Thriver]

Many activists are in fact abused children. They channel their anger into worthy causes, which gives them a sense of self worth and purpose. They use their anger in a positive way, to create change in the world, where it is needed. I've met people on this forum who have said they intend to go the activist route specifically to channel their anger.

Did I say "everyone"?

Yes you did.

 

[Philippa]

Yes you did.

Maybe you have a reading impairment? The word 'many' is not the same as the word "everyone". They have two totally different meanings.[DOUBLEPOST=1399337361,1399337251][/DOUBLEPOST]

Many activists are in fact abused children.

 

[Philippa]

*Aaaah...the sound of silence.* :D

 

[Survivor2Thriver]

Maybe you have a reading impairment? The word 'many' is not the same as the word "everyone". They have two totally different meanings.

Cherry pick all you like. You stated many activist are abuse survivors who channel their anger into worthy causes and go on to say people on this forum plan to channel their anger the same way.

There are indeed many" activist." LOL



I am trying to express not everyone feels that way. The beauty in life is you don't have to agree with me. Nor me you.

 

[Philippa]

Cherry pick all you like. You stated many activist are abuse survivors who channel their anger into worthy causes and go on to say people on this forum plan to channel their anger the same way.

I am trying to express not everyone feels that way. The beauty in life is you don't have to agree with me. Nor me you.

Then try expressing it in a way that doesn't put words into my mouth and actually say "Not everyone feels that way"...not tell me I used the word "Everyone" when you know I didn't.

I realise that...which is why I said "Many" and not "everyone".

Again you have put words into my mouth. And you weren't "trying to express that not everyone feels that way" you were trying to tell me I said something I didn't say.

I said..if you go back and actually READ my words more carefully, that "I have met people on this forum who plan to channel their anger in this way". That is not saying EVERY person on this forum plans to channel their anger in this way...is it?

 

[Survivor2Thriver]

I don't wish to continue interacting with you.

I said..if you go back and actually READ my words more carefully,

OK. Out of all your sharky comments throughout this thread I like the one quoted above the best! LOL

 

[anthony]

Thread banned both. Anyone else want to bring personal grudges onto the public side of the forum and continue with them?