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Our LDR guy and I (we) had a huge all day long argument, kicked off with him threatening suicide this err...last...morning and refusing to go to the ER...he's still blaming us for pushing him to be suicidal? Because our uterus went off, and so did we.
( I should add..our uterus was never that predictable or our periods that mood-consistent PRIOR to early forties. Sometimes okay, sometimes...Aaaaaaagh! Now that stuff is really like pulling a Fallopian handle and seeing if you get a really gross jackpot... Feckin' attack uterus...)
We apologized for being all ugly once we REALIZED we were being stupid, but off he went anyway, our fault for triggering him?
He's still mad at us for not coming over to see him. WE are still mad at us for not coming over to see him when we had time and money. But him whomping us with that doesn't help us feel good enough about ourselfs to crawl out of this f*cking pit so we can go get two jobs and earn the price of another goddamn ticket!
So it's actively counterproductive to keep making us feel shitty about something we already feel shitty about...We're poor, depressed, chronically ill in an annoying but not-enough-to-get-gub'mint-money way, we just have to drag our sick, depressed, CPTSD-ridden multiple ass to work.

Meanwhile he said a lot of awful stuff to us and my interior kids believe that. Because we love him? Loving anyone is like giving them the root password to our head, basically.
So now we feel like we need to kill ourselves because we are a giant bag of turds.
...We totally believe that.

He also says he's hurt because he can't talk about sexual stuff without being told it triggers us? At times, when it does...so he feels rejected.
So I told him I would just stop telling him. Not about the abuse either. No longer his problem. I mean... What's me having a flashback versus him hanging himself?
If he really needs me to put up with it that bad, I should.
...but now he doesn't want to do phone sex, b/c it might hurt me.

Like killing himself isn't going to hurt the living f*ck out of me?!?

It's the ultimate manipulation tool, too...I get to be engaged in hostage negotiations instead of fixing a relationship.

He's hurting me and the little sane bits I have left are telling me that this is going over the edge. Holding a suicide threat over my head is not ok. It is not ok.
 
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I am pretty sure his suicide attempts have become a minor PTSD item at this point, because every time he is determined to attempt again, I flip right the f*ck out.

I am taking damage from this. I need him to get other crisis help. Not me. I can't deal anymore.
 
it sounds like you guys need a break from him. at the very least, for some good sleep and self-care (a good 12 hours, i'd recommend at least). literally disconnect from communicating with your guy so to get that space if you must.

i'm no relationship expert (that's so laughable, can't believe i just typed it), but...you've got kid alters that need parenting/protecting/nourishing/healing. is this relationship helping you guys towards that goal? just a thought.

being in that place of having to think really really hard about The Most Important Relationship in one's life is...difficult...especially if you guys are in crisis mode. that said, i also wish you guys (and your guy) strength.
 
Well, we told him we'd MUCH rather hurt ourselves when he's mad at us than have him threaten suicide...that beating ourselves physically is far preferable to the torment of begging him to go to the hospital or call the crisis team and having him refuse to do that and declare he "has no choice" but to hang himself in the morning, as he did Monday...
We did call the cops over there but he faked sanity...again.

He also spent Monday telling us we don't give him any credit for trying...when he's overdosed three times on pills since August...and was threatening again? It's my fault for being terrified by his suicide attempts, i guess I shouldnt be terrified when the person i'm in love with announces he's planning on killing himself.
He told me I don't love him enough or I would have found a way over, and my shouting at him is why he's suicidal, and how I am just like his ex-wife who couldn't give him credit for anything...

That all doesn't matter though, because he's decided he and I/we can't work out.

We think because we asked him to physically hurt us instead of psychologically.

(We don't understand! Hurting us makes people happy, right? They feel better that way?
We want him to feel better. It's what we're for.)
 
He was our reason to get better, our reason to survive.

We are disgusting, slimy people. Filled up with slime. We got filled up with slime by those guys. We're gross. We can fake not being disgusting if you don't get too close.

We won't get close no more.
We're stupid kids. Stupid ugly selfish brats, disgusting.
 
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[Like] the collective Stickler.

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I can appreciate finding an external reason for recovery.

We can all make mistakes, looks like that individual didn't do what it said on the label.

Threatening suicide and blaming it on you, is not fair, it's abusive.

Sorry that your Little's are so upset by his actions. Is there something that soothes them? Colouring, Disney, stroking a pet?

What abusers did to you and trained you to do, can never make you bad.
 
I think he's nosing around hoping I will take him back since he's calmed down and is starting to feel ashamed of himself...
:tdown::cry::bawling:
I warned him I would only walk away if I found that I had to for my own sanity.
He crossed that threshold this week.

So if he wants me back he needs to change...change that will take...hmm, probably a couple of years of work, and he's so far refused to do much work on himself, so...
5 years and it's over. I really love this man, really wanted to live with him ( which would have meant marriage).

I don't ever want to try again. I don't feel any reason to live. I am terrifically sad.
 
It's not good to rely on a guy for your happiness! Yous can only do so much! Yous sound like you did awesome calling the police to stop him from hanging. Maybe he could choose some form of extra help so he feels that he has some control over it. Maybe it would be good to take some time for fun. Men hate ultimatums. I think they rebel. Enjoy the moments; the warmth of the sun, the animals, things yous like. You are not yucky cuz some jerks made you feel that way; THEY are yucky, but that's the scam of the whole thing, they pass te blame to yous but it is a lie for it to be on yous. I am sorry you are sad! I am sad too.
 
Glad that yous got away from him, he was very toxic. It's good yous walked away. Yous are not jucky, bad or nasty for that. And it's not your fault that you feel that way.

Now that yous are free from him and threats, try to enjoy some of the freedom, and heal, get better, recover from him.

Sendng :hug:s!
 
Thanks, we are really hurting this morning...feeling like we need to quarantine ourselves. We're selfish and never listen and bad and wrong and stupid. We are wrong. We are wrong.


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...Sorry, Sael, you don't need that...I'm going to leave it up, but know that the mess above is not your job to fix.
You're a nice guy, I like you. I am glad I get to talk to you. I want you to be happy, get free of your parents, and shine like the star you are.
 
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